Who is the better stalker, The Shape, or The Ghostface

Ghostface has a higher skill ceiling but can achieve much more. By being able to mark survivors individually, he can generally operate with much more efficiency than Myers, who has to pile all of his stalks into one big exposed period, during which you'll only get like 2 downs. Plus, he has stealth on demand, and can stalk much more quickly, without any sort of stalk point cap.

It's the crouching that wins this one for me. Just makes him that little bit more harder to spot.

It's actually not even a question.

If you look up the numbers and the actually specifics between how the stalk works between Ghostface and Myers you'll see that Ghostface is undoubtedly an upgrade on his predecessor in nearly every way.

Save for the fact that he has a higher skill floor to use properly (but he also has the higher skill ceiling, so it's a fine trade)

Ghostface's exposing is better, he only needs to get one person exposed (and Myers pretty much also only gets one person exposed at a time), Ghostface can indiviually 99 people and Myers has to waste his whole power just to instadown one person.

Giant lunge is traded off for the lack of a lunge in T1 and also isn't useful in general.

Everything else that you can argue is too nitpicky.

untrue, myers exposes everyone for 60 seconds, everyone, so all he has to do is 99 and find a group of 2 or more survivors to have already gained more value, also smart myers mains arent even gonna go for swings in tier one so thats irrelevant, and tier 3 extra lunge not being useful is simply false

Scratched mirror with Boyfriend's memo for Michael is my favorite add on combo and is pretty powerful, no disrespect to ghost face but I'd pick Michael anyday.

As if you could break Chad Myers out of his power just by looking at him

If survivors are grouping up against the killer who instadowns for 60 seconds they're bad enough to where you could beat them without a power.

Ghostface isn't limited by a finite amound of stalk, gains power more quickly, has undetectable on demand, and is capable of 180'ing the game with some well-timed 99 stalks.

Myers is entirely predictable and the only value T3 has is the lunge if survivors split up instead of waiting around to get stabbed.

And how is T1 not a disadvantage? You have to waste time staring at people you could be chasing and pushing off gens. Sounds pretty bad to me.

first off, survivors arent gonn group while your t3, thats why you 99 it, and T1 lunge isin't a disadvantage since actual 1IQ myers mains arent gonna go for lunges in T1, and you kind of are getting pressure on gens because you have to patrol gens, find someone, and they usually get off the gen, otherwise they give you T2 which is even better.

The one without a broken revealing mechanic.

you might as well just use oni then, i honestly do not like slugging and find it unfun, on both sides, i personally want survivors to actually have a gg and not just say it, i hook one person at a time, well unless their asking for it cough toxic cough cough grouped together... otherwise im not looking for slugs