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I think this is my biggest Problem with Spirit
Okay, I know I did some posts about Spirit before and they were… not that good. But I made a break with Dead by Daylight. And now I just started to play it again. I play mainly Survivor and get some new experience with playing against the Spirit. I do not think its overpowered anymore, but I think she needs one or two very little changes in my opinion. The first is something that killed me a couple of times:
Imagine you’re in a chase against a Spirit and loop around a T-Wall. You jump through the Window and realise that she faked you. But you couldn’t see the red thingie (I don’t know how it’s called) that is usually in front of her because she DISAPEARRED for the fraction of a second and this is the reason you are now dead. This feels just unfair because you could not see it, or her. And I think this needs to get patched out. The Spirit just needs to be visible all the time. With the disappear thing I mean something that is integrated in her animations, I don't mean her power.
The second thing is something personally because I don’t know if this already exists (so pls correct me if I’m wrong):
When she fakes a phase, you don’t know it. You can just guess it because the whoosh sound isn’t that fast, I think (I mean I had situations were a Spirit faked a Phase Walk and when she did not fake it). In my opinion this needs a clear animation or a sound clue. You should hear it when she starts a phase walk. I do not think that after this patch you won’t be able to mind game with her, but I could be wrong.
These are the two things that really disturb me. In my last posts about the Spirit, I mentioned that you can’t play against her completely, but that’s not true. You can play against her, but she has still some things that seems a bit unfair because you can’t do anything against it.
And pls, when you write a comment under this post, be constructive and teach me a better maybe. Even if you are a Killer Player. I know that Spirit isn’t that easy to play. And when I’m wrong with something, just tell me and then I have the chance to become a better Survivor Player.
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I don't have a problem with spirit. She's very slow so you can easily loop her around any structure without problems like you do with every other killer. She can't disappear instantly so I don't see why you have problem on T-L with her. If you see that she's standing still for 1s you just abandon the T-L/start to walk for other place. Spirit can't fake if you break LoS with her and after that start walking. She will need to use her power in that scenario and that's how you know she's phasing, so you need to keep breaking LoS and forcing her to waste her power. That doesn't work if you're injured and don't have Iron Will tho, in that scenario you're pretty f* and you should've countered her by spending the most time without getting hit as possible.
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I think you got me wrong, or maybe I explained it to bad. But I meant that she dislocates a little in her normal running animation, twists and turns and sometimes just disappears for a short time. So briefly becomes invisible. It has nothing to do with her ability, it's just built into her animations I think
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You can't hear the whoosh sound in her terror radius.
To be visible all the time? So you don't want her to have a power?
If you're not sure if shes phasing or just standing there watching you break line of sight. Walk away don't run.
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That shouldn't be a problem still. Are you running the T-L like that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtUa0F6FUss&ab_channel=Cru5h
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Not like this, but so similar. But that helped me :D Thank you I'll save the video for later to watch more of it. But for me personally its still irritating when the killer is gone for a second. Maybe it would be better if the red thingie (I still dont know what its called) would still be visible.
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He is talking about the random intermittent phase she does. You can even use addons to make it more frequent.
It s bs when it happens at the right time (for the killer)
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Okay this with the terror radius I didn't know, good to know :P. The disapearring thing was meant to a animation when she walks. Sometimes she gets invisible for a really short time. It's irritating in my opinion. I didn't meant her power.
And this break line of sight is a good tip, I will try it. Thanks
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She should at least have a visible animation to see when she starts the charging process for her phasing. Having that visual queue would fix a lot of problems she brings into the game.
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Yeah I know what they mean now and about the add on.
When I first read it they made it sounds as her phasing not her passive phasing.
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Anytime
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Because the Spirit is one of the most pain in the a$$ killer to ever face. Period.
Freddy can join the ride now that you mention it.
She has one of the best powers in the game and she also has good addons.
Survivors have nightmares versing a spirit simply due to the tiresome match it is to predict her movements and terror radius.
Her groans are quite obnoxious too.
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He's talkin about passive phasing, not the power.
The phasing is a pretty cheap 'the game plays itself for you' scenario, just like the dream world with the current iteration of Freddy.
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She has an ability called "passive phasing" that causes her to randomly turn invisible for a moment every few seconds. 2 of her more fun add-ons affect it. I believe that is what the OP is talking about. I actually play her as an m1 killer quite a lot because of it's ability to completely confuse any survivor who looks behind them in a chase.
Also, against any decent spirit that little mindgame's not going to work whether or not you're healthy, your breathing is more than enough to give you away even ignoring footsteps and grass. A valiant attempt, to be sure, but totally reliant on the Spirit not having a good ear. In fact, all of her counterplay is kind of reliant on both you having Iron Will and her not having Stridor and also being a bit... inexperienced. And also on you winning coin tosses.
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Yeah look a comment up and you'll see.
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As a spirit main I think her biggest problem is just overall lack of counter play in chases. You don't know when she's using her power, you don't know where she is, and if she has good addons and stridor you're just dead.
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Yes this is what I mean, I can understand when you say "use Iron Will" because first its just a good perk and second its kinda a little counterplay. But I had the experience that if you are playing against a good Spirit you can't really chase against her. She needs just you breath and knows where you are. For me as a Survivor it feels very unfair. I mean you can do something to counterplay almost every Killer Power. You can watch out for Traps, Juke the Hatchets or you just don't heal or wash yourself (I mean Legion and Plague). But when you're chased by a Spirit, there is nothing that you can do to dogde her Phase completely.
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