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I had my first 2 trickster games, i can tell hes very weak.

loopsahoy
loopsahoy Member Posts: 347
edited April 2021 in Feedback and Suggestions

So, my first was in hags map,(the one that doesnt have the boat) and i seen the trickster at a gen. He threw blades for no reason, and disnt even see me until i dropped down from where the gen was. He kept threwing blades for no reason and couldnt down unless he was right next to someone. My second was a farming killer. 110 speed+ lack of use is bad, and the power being bad in the first place makes it almost impossibke to win. (Apparently hes bugged and only gets entity displeased?)

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  • loopsahoy
    loopsahoy Member Posts: 347

    I just was able to experiwnce the new chaoter yesterday, so ive only had 2 games

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 5,229

    Yup, he is ass.

  • Kasamsky
    Kasamsky Member Posts: 265

    The whole world know's already.

  • papabear2009
    papabear2009 Member Posts: 115

    No no, you can't tell he is weak because you need a month and half to collect data. Jk jk.

  • GodLikeTerror
    GodLikeTerror Member Posts: 1,054
    edited April 2021

    He isn't that bad actually. Is he the worse killer in the game? You best bet he is, but once you get consistent with knives he actually is really good with main event plays etc...

  • loopsahoy
    loopsahoy Member Posts: 347

    Also, main event is "good?" Its just a faster power, that decreases aim even more and is still very weak

  • GodLikeTerror
    GodLikeTerror Member Posts: 1,054
    edited April 2021

    I'm actually being serious. I've put quite a bit of time into him already though. So that's why I'm good with him. 2 games does not count for a killers strength. People said clown was and still is the worse killer in the game or before trickster at least, and they never even knew how to use him. Use him for a while, and get good, and see for yourself that he is actually not the worse thing ever. He can still put out good pressure if you know what you are doing, and I pretty much never m1 either. Not like I'm playing against babies either. I've gone against some strong swf's. Remember Trickster is a high mechanical skill killer. If you don't have good mechanical skills. More than likely you aren't going to perform the best with him. You have to control the side to side and random recoil, but getting a good judge off of it is fine too.

  • STUVash
    STUVash Member Posts: 25

    Trickster default kit is weak for sure, but equip some add-ons and suddenly he get kills left and right. What I would advice to struggling Trickster players is to equip Cut Thru U Single with Edge Of Revival Album, aim at the feet, or rather the center of the hitbox near the ground, when chasing a guy if possible, if the survivor keep running in the open after you got the first injury it's fairly possible to land a 2nd injury by keep firing at their feet while they run.

    What these two add-ons do is helping you in ALL scenarios. It helps you in a 1v1 chase because you hit the survivor + the ground dealing +50% damage And if survivors ever packed together from doing a gen, unhooking or protecting each other, you hit them all. You deal more damage with fewer knives and Main Event charge faster providing you Free Knives if you ever run out during a chase.

    With these two add-ons most of the game becomes rather dumb, you're not really aiming that much because the knives deal damage on larger areas, injury comes faster and once you got the pressure it's quite easy to protect the hook if survivors are showing up too soon with a Borrowed Time plan. Many times when survivors did that both would go down. That's 4 health state inflicted in less than 12 seconds, that's how good it can be. It almost plays like a Bubba if you start firing at the feet while they unhook.

    The only real mastery if you run these add-ons is to know how to aim from afar, there is vital information you can get by aiming at various key spots in the map, near a gen, near an exit gate, a totem. Throwing a knife in specific locations can save you alot of time to find survivors. And there are also some times where your survivors would have alot of walls near a hook, preventing you from inflincting that 4th health state under 12 seconds, in those times knowing how to aim from afar will help you alot.

    His default kit is the worst, but some of these add-ons actually make him better than some other killers.

    I go in more depth about Trickster Kit in this discussion https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/239229/trickster-kit-a-straightforward-analysis

  • STUVash
    STUVash Member Posts: 25
    edited April 2021

    I didn't say that, I can perform rather well without add-ons now that I know how to play him. I'm just saying some add-ons make him far more better, which also means "Not weak" in these situations.

    See now you'd be more inclined to say "This is wrong" rather than "he is just weak". It's just a thing some players should consider whether they're talking about the killer or trying to win with him instead of just making posts without actually knowing.

  • loopsahoy
    loopsahoy Member Posts: 347

    Im considering every rank and every skill level. Also if addons make him far more better, its considered meta. Base kit should be more important than addons.( except ultra rares.) You may have a lot of hours, but across the entire game, trickster is still weak, not fun to play against, and addon dependent.

  • loopsahoy
    loopsahoy Member Posts: 347

    This is the legion release scenario all over again

  • STUVash
    STUVash Member Posts: 25

    We all agree base kit in the current version is Weak.

    You now have two killers playing him in this discussion telling you he is not as weak as you described it in your OP and in multiple ways. It's fine for you to agree with others on some points especially when they agree with you but with info gathered from experience.

    I'm pretty sure most of the replies you got in this discussion disregarded the details in your original post and just envision the Trickster as they saw him in their own games, simply agreeing on the fact that he's weak. I'm just telling that he's not That Weak while providing details, and explanations.

    I still consider his base kit to be the weakest because it has so many handicaps, but being the weakest doesn't mean you can't get 4 kills. And even as he is, there are ways to get 4k easily. Which is a far cry from what your original post described.

  • GodLikeTerror
    GodLikeTerror Member Posts: 1,054
    edited April 2021

    I was streaming him on twitch for like a few days, but twitch slapped me with a ban hammer for a bit, because some troll spam reported it. So I will get back to it eventually. I dunno if you can see my channel still or vods or whatever but my channel name was thecircusisintown

  • GodLikeTerror
    GodLikeTerror Member Posts: 1,054
    edited April 2021

    It's only for like 28 more days so watch me then lol. Hopefully they revert it, because I didn't do anything bad. Some dude was salty about losing, and came in, and spam reported my channel lol. So hopefully you keep an eye out. I'll let you know so you can watch some good trickster gameplay, but he most likely will be receiving his buff soon.