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Man please just nerf or better yet delete SWF smh
I mean how DARE people play with their friends to have fun It is literally the most toxic thing ever to be put in this game i mean why? like I cant even play the game because the gens get done in under a minute plz omg do something bhvr and get this dealt with asap i literally cannot play agains them fix it
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In all seriousness, you can't nerf SWF or just get rid of it. Why? Because there are a LOT of people who play this game exclusively with their friends. It is unfair at times for sure yes, but you can only buff everything else. Deleting SWF would also make the game much more stale than it is right now, and it is pretty stale for a lot of people.
Instead, solo queue, maps, items, perks, and killers need to be changed to make the game more balanced in general.
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Honestly just stop having friends so you can stop cheating /s
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I think there is a better, alternate solution. There needs to be a Solo Que and a Team Que. I think most of us would play in both from time to time, depending on whether our friends are handy or not. It is no different from people who sometimes play Killer and sometimes play Survivor. I think if they had a Team Que the following would be possible:
- Unlock a 5th Perk for Killers fighting in the Team Que to offset the 5th Perk (Comms).
- If the extra Perk isn't enough, they could consider adding an additional Generator to power the gates.
- BEhavior could make some good cash by selling Team cosmetics, i.e. matching jackets, hats, tattoos and so on. I know I want dibs on "Seal Team SWF" for me and my pals.
- An existing Team Que means a natural base for Tournaments and Events.
Balancing SWF in this way would be better for all involved, and it would have the added benefit of not strangling the Solo Que. After all, any Perk they throw in to try and slow down the SWF hits the damn Solo Players three times as hard. Killers aren't adverse to taking on the challenge of a SWF if the playing field is level. And if the SWF is really about the fun of playing with friends and NOT the competitive edge, they shouldn't be unhappy with the level field either. To be honest, I'm not sure I believe it isn't about the competitive edge, because friends can play together anytime they want in a custom game. Me and my friends do it all the time.
I just think it is important that we look at this realistically. Every month that goes by there are more and more SWF. The problem isn't going away, it is merely expanding. The growth of SWF is affecting the Solo Players harshly because:
- It sucks away a certain percentage of good Players.
- 3-Person SWF tend to treat their Red Shirt as an asset, nothing more.
- Overall cooperation and team spirit in Solo is at an all time low.
I think in the end, there will be no choice but to separate them into different Ques. Sadly, I think it will only happen when BEhavior is dragged kicking and screaming into it when the problem becomes so bad, slow but sure, that it threatens their livelihood. It is a pity, because I think if they embraced the notion early and did it right, they could make EVERYONE happy and make some nice cash off it too.
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Personally they should remove the ability to play survivor all together. It's clear playing survivor was an unintended mechanic that the devs refuse to rectify.
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how about bringing solo at the same level as a swf could possibly be and then change the whole game around that?
Instead of "removing" sth that would pretty much kill the game.
You know what. Apply as a dev and do that, remove swf. I wouldnt have a problem with this game dying.
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just add kwf (kill with friends) where there can be multiple killers. easy win /s
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Buff solo survivors.
Buff killers.
Problem solved.
But apparently the majority of this ######### forums is opposed to any form of solo buff because, what, they get off on bitching about SWF every 3 seconds?
edit: im aware this is a joke post but i have a lot of pent up anger
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I read your title, thought you were an idiot, then read the post XD I did something like this and a mod took down my post and warned me. We had a pleasant discussion lol
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So SWF is cheating? Or is it the comms part? If comms I'd point out the devs themselves have an official Discord for players to use. Kinda like them saying "meet up here with your buds and play our game."
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legally cheating
It's endorsed by the developers, it isn't cheating.
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OR different game modes
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I’m joking but some people think playing with commas is cheating
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It's not officially endorsed. It's impossible to enforce.
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Yes those nasty commas all have to go! ;)
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There are official SWF channels in the DBD Discord server and the developers have said themselves it's not cheating. I'm not sure what more you need to prove that it's not cheating.
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It's literally been confirmed by the devs to not be cheating how can you then go on to say that it's cheating-
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The official discord isn't run by them and why wouldn't they have that feature? SWF promotes people to play their game.
Devs saying its not cheating doesn't mean an endorcement. Its unenforceable if they were to say it was cheating. So they take a neutral stance.
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Sure it's not.
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Find the owner of that discord.
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We all do honestly lol
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Oml you're hopeless.
You are aware, right, that for large-scale Discord servers the one singular owner and the team of people who run the server are two different people?
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I'm saying its the official endorsed discord server. It just wasn't started by bhvr.
Even so, having a Discord server doesn't legitimize Coms while playing. The game doesn't have voice built in nor was it balance for it.
Doesn't mean its consider cheating or endorsed by the Devs. Just mean there's nothing they can do to stop its use. So they stay neutral.
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Nobody in their right mind should want SWF removed or penalised in any way. That's certain way to kill off large part of the playerbase.
Insted game should be getting more balanced with SWF in mind. Giving solos more information, better mm, well balanced maps & killler etc.
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If SWF needed to be "nerfed" then you wouldn't be seeing killers doing well.
I face SWF constantly and I love it because it provides a challenge. It's better than going against solo Q AI bots.
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Whats the Problem? Just do it like me.
When i play Solo and get overpowered Killers on Steroid Addons i immediately kill myself on first Hook. I even run to them to get downed, some Teabagging inclusive. Often i just do a challenge first, like finding the Red Glyth stuff. The Queue Times are no Problem, i just do some S*itposting in the meantime, like this thread here. On the plus Side you derank and get some easier Lobbys.
If i play Killer i dodge Keys/SWF/Boxes etc. and if i still get some Swatteams i tunnel/camp/slug them like B**ches.
Or i start completely ignoring them and just practise flying with nurse for example. Especially the Flashlight clicky kind hates this.
Had a Match where they all went out with barely 10000 BP. In the End they all came to me begging for some action. Total waste of their time, hillarious.
The best thing is thats exactly how the Devs want you to play this Game, just look at the Challenges. Hook 4 Survivors in the Basement, Basement Bubba Build here i come.
Sometimes...its realy rare that this happens..you get a fun and balanced Match. Thats why i still hang around for the Rift.
You would think im kidding, im dead serious. Thats the state of the Game right now.
Good Job Devs.
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I disagree with the amount of people that complain about swf lets be honest those swf que times would be hours for survivors and the solo que would be hours for killers
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I doubt it, and we won't know until we try. :) Either way SWF is a problem and will have to be addressed and so far they are batting ZERO in dealing with it.
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as far as I know I dont even think they're trying in any other fashion then band aid perks like bond and kindred
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SWF may be (often accidentally) ridiculously overpowered, but speaking from experience a full solo lobby is a free 4k no matter how good they are.
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