Am I adhering too strictly to killer etiquette?
When I'm on someone getting off hook, even if I am pretty sure they don't have Decisive or Borrowed Time, I will let them go in favor of uninjured, unhooked survivor. And in the endgame I will purposely leave hooked survivors because I will feel like a dick for camping them. Am I being too nice? Am I handicapping myself?
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If you enjoy playing that way keep doing it. Survivors like me really appreciate you going out of your way to make the match enjoyable for all of us
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Depends, are you still losing horribly? I agree to a certain extent on being nice in game. I play both sides and it’s not fun to be camped or tunneled so I try not to do that as Killer. However, if the survivors are being toxic, unhooking right in my face, or it’s nearing the end of the match and everyone is still alive, then the nice gloves come off. It’s a match after all and I’m trying to win. Being nice doesn’t really get you far as Killer and it is a handicap. Though one that a lot of people do and maybe should? I’m not entirely sure. However, if being nice is constantly getting you loses then follow my rule, if three gens have popped and everyone is still alive and you haven’t even downed or hooked anyone yet then take off the nice gloves. You get nothing out of the game from being nice. There is no “nice” bonus BP.
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Yes, you are handicapping yourself. There is no "Killer Etiquette" also called "The Survivor's Handbook for Killers." You are free to apply whatever personal rules you want to yourself. I sometimes do for the extra challenge of it, particularly when matchmaking has thrown me people who should NOT be in the ring with me. However, I'm going to state clearly and directly that you should play to win. Get good first; you should learn to be the best you can be before you start holding yourself back. If you don't even know how to play yet, not really, how can you correctly judge how to handicap yourself. The only things you should be doing are:
- Don't cheat, either by hack or lag spike.
- Don't disconnect; if you start a game, finish it.
- Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.
That is the only real etiquette Killers and Survivors are expected to do, and satisfying these three things makes you a good sport. All that other stuff is personal choice, and don't let anyone grief or peer pressure you into choosing you to play that way. You make that call yourself, when you are ready. That is my advice.
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I'd rather have a fun and sporting game with 0K rather than a boring game where I 4K with camping/tunneling
Ultimately it's up to you what you do though. As long as you're enjoying it, you do you with the mercy or lack of mercy.
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That's not even killer etiquette, that's just smart play.
You've highlighted the possibility of both DS and Borrowed time, and opted not to waste time testing to see if they exist. If the survivor who unhooked them is also a viable target, go for them every time.
If you get back to the hook and the unhooker has vanished and the unhooked is still in view though, there's not much else you can do about it. In that case, yeah you're handicapping yourself if you don't at least try to make them mend with a hit to BT.
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Yes. As nice as you're being, it's also what sets the unreasonable precident for killers who go against sweaty teams. This coming from someone who usually does the same and probably shouldn't (except the endgame camping thing. I don't see the point to that, securing one kill out of four seems kind of pointless to me).
Killers have to play dirty to win, because... Well, survivors do it all the time but without the "rulebook" nonsense getting thrown in their face. That's not an excuse to BM people, but also giving people free passes when second chance perks are the meta is kind of doubling down on giving them free pressure on you. If someone farms a teammate it's probably best for the overall health of the game to hit said teammate and then chase the unhooker. Then people might start to understand the difference between killer BM and survivor farming.
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As long you're enjoying yourself do what you want and play however you like as long as it's within the rules.
If you're happy with how you're playing and how the matches are going then keep doing it. If you don't like how your matches are going then change it up.
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The survivor rule book hinders you as a killer. Break free, and do what is necessary to win.
2-3 gens done in 2-3 minutes? Tunnel someone immediately. Basement hook at 5 gens left? Camp it out.
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Are you enjoying yourself? If that's the case, don't worry about adhering too strictly or "not enough" to any sort of etiquette.
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If someone is hooked and you spotted a survivor near the hook, of course you won't walk away.
I myself prefer not to camp plainly because it makes it boring for me, I will camp out last hook with all gens done though because, well, what am I supposed to do? Not try to win?
Also, I also like to go for uninjured survivor since it gives me more pressure after getting them to injured, then I switch to unhooked person if I can locate them.
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You are. I try and show sportsmanship, something that is dearly lacking in the community, and what do I get? Tbagged and flashlight licked at. When someone dc's or someone lets themselves just die i always try and go easy on the team. Like they don't get that. I try my best not to camp, but if survivors are throwing themselves at the hook I need to do something. It's always in the back of my mind that I don't wanna be gross. The main thing I want to express to survivors...just dont be seen. Like a lot of killers won't camp if you dont make your unhook so blatant.
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Thanks guys
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I am not opposed to somebody playing how THEY want as long as they don't expect others to play by those rules. However, I typically try to encourage people to give it their best if for no other reason than to keep the matchmaker from becoming more of a mess than it already is. When you go easy on people, they may unfairly get put up against killers they have no business going up against when they should be held back to something more their level.
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yes you are, to some extent. If you're playing for fun no matter what, you are going to handicap yourself, however there are somethings i dont understand about the camping with killers, its not fun for the survivor or the killer, when i play killer i try and play in a way where everyone has fun, not for me just winning, idk whenever i got a 4k by camping it just seemed hollow to me, I didn't really give myself a chance to have fun as a killer because i wanted to win so badly. Playing against toxic survivors is just as annoying as playing against a toxic killer and for that reason i try not to be a toxic survivor or killer, i play games for fun, i dont play them merely to win
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You are definitely making the game harder for yourself than it strictly has to be. I'm often in the same boat, and I've found that sometimes I can make a compromise with myself, like slugging the unhooked survivor then chasing the healthy one with no intention to come back, or only camping during EGC if I have zero kills. It's hard to find a balance between trying to do well and trying not to be unnecessarily mean.
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You are the killer. You kill the survivors. Why do you care what they think about you?
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If only survivors cared about the killer's fun, right?
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Who said they don’t? Some do like me
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This is about as well said as it gets. If you're having fun go for it they definitely are with the way you're playing. The only thing I will add is if the roles are reversed that same gratitude is not givin back. However as long as you're having fun thats Your choice but you are throwing matches especially not securing the kill during end game collapse. I did this exact same thing two days ago I open the exit gate and did not camp in endgame collapse went into frenzy with Legion they dead harded so I could not get a frenzy hit and tea bagged at the gate while I was in fatigue waiting for me to come out of fatigue and swing at them and walked out the gate not even giving me a hit for my nice gesture. I cannot tell you how many times things like this happen I can't even down you in Frenzy they were not in danger.
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As Killer, I let the Survivors chose how we do battle.
If the Survivors are chill, inefficent on gens, bad loopers, I'll play down a bit and relax. I'll take long chases, peel off to chase others, ignore hooked survivors completely... etc.
If they're giving me really hard chases, flashlight saving, body blocking, efficient on gens - I go sweaty. Proxy Camping and slugging is on the table if I'm behind.
If they go clicky, teabaggy or start taunting me with gestures - gloves are off completely. Happy to face camp the offender if the match is beyond salvation.
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You make the game more difficult that way. It is polite and good sportsmanship, but it does make the game harder. If that's fun to you and you are happy with match results, by all means continue, killers like that are fun to play against.
I tend to play the same way, at least when I'm completely dominating the match (which is not common). I do it just because I hate being tunneled out early, and don't find it fun to do so to someone else. That was easier at lower ranks. Now I go constantly against red ranks while only being on green myself.
Many killers actually play that way, but then again, if the killer can't apply enough pressure while being too nice, survivors won't go easy on their opponent the same way. They do gens quickly when there's nothing to push them off.
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You are completely handicapping yourself.
I have recently done the same thing after being a sweaty ruthless killing machine for a number of years. And your kill rate will go down by an average of at least 1. Maybe more.
But you have to play for yourself and your own win definitions. I say play how YOU would like to verse. Then, you can never really lose.
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Personally, I always go by the motto, "All's fair in Endgame Collapse." I've yet to have a survivor argue back against that.
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As I keep saying
do whatever you want. If you like being nice, keep being nice. If you don't, don't.
You bought the game, do whatever you want with it.
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Here's another one just played a game with Legion. My Legion has Max corrupt and Max bbq a tier-1 thana lol and a tier 2 tinkerer. My Lobby is a 3-man Xbox swf and one random cross-play. The game is not going well which region is an uphill climb usually but he's super fun but I'm hooking and Frenzy away from Hook I think I only had like five maybe six hooks when the last gen pop it was a huge autohaven map. Endgame happens I catch one hookem decide to proxy why wouldn't I after my last post. End up killing three of them. Get messages at the end being called a tunneling trash can. They were all rank 3 or higher and don't know the true definition of tunneling camping sure but who doesn't expect that in end game but tunneling I played way too nice I didn't slug didn't tunnel or someone out to make up some time and I still get accused of this. The entitlement and double standards in this game can drive someone mad.
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I'm only nice to survivors who have given up or did really well and got sandbagged by their team.
Otherwise the fun of the other side isn't really my problem. I will not facecamp, but if a survivor plays bad, I remove him asap from the game. It's still a pvp game.
Survivors don't respect easy hex totem spots, why should killers respect the selfcaring Claudette under the hook?
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play the game however you enjoy it
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Killer what now?
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Yeah, yeah, "no such thing, play as you want". Some people enjoy playing in a way which is enjoyable for everyone even if it comes at the cost of efficiency.
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Thats a choice not a rule.
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I know, and nobody stated otherwise. In the case of OP I guess he just finds playing that way more enjoyable.
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Perfectly fine.
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My two cents is do whatever feels right to you in that moment but being "nice" is always cool!
I usually play Survivor but when I'm playing Killer I try really hard not to camp or tunnel people because I know how awful it feels. I do however slug a lot lol. Also in end game I am pretty inclined to proxy camp at the very least (There isn't much else to do as killer at that point).
All that being said, when survivors dive the hook I wouldn't feel bad about taking them down. Usually what I do in a scenario like that is take down the unhooker because they're basically farming the person who was hooked and I've been in that situation where you just get farmed without BT and it sucks. So I uh, yeah. Personally I like to go for the maximum number of hooks possible so I get the most Sacrifice points but I also run perks which give me incentives to get as many hooks as possible (Pop, BBQ etc.)
It's just all up to you but I always remind killers that camping / tunneling someone out early means the remaining survivors will likely gen rush you even harder than if you hook then go and look for another survivor immediately. Exerting as much pressure as possible is how you keep control of the game, not making one unlucky persons game experience miserable lol
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Solo survivors like me really appreciate killers like you even if we lose. Some players really forget its not whether you win or loss its how you play the game.
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I do the same thing most of the time. Fresh unhooks are too easy and I like pressuring everyone rather than one!
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Killers can have fun without sacrificing survivors
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