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OK, am I the bad guy here?
Just had a match where 4 console people in lobby when I pop in as their babysitter/killer.
last second the Laurie switches to key. Red Flag 1
Offerings screen I see the 4 of them have offered up for hatch to be in shack and for the trial to be Ormand. Red Flag 2 and 3
I down the Laurie and EVERYONE comes out of the woodwork to body block my Doctor. Red Flag 4, 5, and 6.
I decided at that point to DC. Does that make me the bad guy?
BTW, I'm rank 15 and they are 5, 7, and two 4s, for added context.
Edit to add that I play for FUN not kills, and behavior like that is no fun at all to play against and is why I quit the game back when MM was the new killer. I came back less than 2 months ago.
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Yes and no
The occasional ragequit is understandable. Hell, even I will do it once every couple months but I make it a personal rule that if I ever ragequit, I'm done for the night and I don't play anymore after that.
However, if you make a habit of quitting anytime the match gets challeging for you, then it crosses into territory where you are the bad guy.
it doesn't matter if YOU play for fun - you have to start up the game with the full awareness that the opponent you might get plays wide open and is going to hit you with every low-down dirty trick in the book. And if you are not mentally prepared for that at any time, put the game down for awhile and do something else.
There's no shame in admitting it just might not be for you. Just don't be one of those people who waste the time of 4 others. I mean, even if they were seeking to troll you (they could of been trying for rituals or rift challenges to be fair), all you did was feed them by leaving anyway... good job, you just encouraged them to do it to the next guy.
So anyway, there you have my honest opinion on the matter. Do with it what you will,
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DCing is against the rules.
Did they play super sweaty? Yes.
Did they break the rules? No.
Personally I would have rode it out, maybe facecamp the key person. You know, just killer things.
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No. They were a stack of people that were out to make the match as miserable as possible. While I don't mind bodyblocking because it just means everyone is going to be injured, a 4 stack that swaps to a key last minute is always a huge slap in the face.
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I wouldn't have left, I would have just tried my best and tunnel the person with key out. Or at the very least, face camp them and make the match frustrating for them as well. But I'm no preacher when it comes to D/Cs, everyone has different reasons for them and not everyone has the same mindset.
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No you are not a bad guy for quitting a match in a videogame. You were simply frustrated and decided to remove yourself from the very situation that made you feel that way.
Those survivors can easily search for another match, other than some free time nothing of value was lost.
However, quitting in this game bans you and the time increases depending on how often you quit or lose connection. So take that into consideration whenever you find yourself in a similar situation.
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Well, it is the first time I've quit out of a match in this, or any, game, so there's that.
Also, is there anything that can be done about red ranks showing up in mid teen rank killer lobbies? This isn't the first sweat squad I've faced, but it was the first bully squad I've seen in over a week. Also, the most brazen one since All-Kill/No-Substance was released.
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For me, fun isn't about how many kills I can get, it's about not depiping or even pipping up while memeing about and having a laugh. Bully Squads don't make me laugh, they make killers quit the game (possibly permanently)
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You're definitely not the bad guy, but I wouldn't have left. I would've played super toxic and tried my best to kill all of them.
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Does this make you the bad guy? No. It does make you a bad sport and a violator of the rules. You didn't disconnect for an emergency, nor was your internet down. Sometimes you are going to pull hard matches. If you don't like the heat, stay out of the damn kitchen. Do I think you are bad guy? No. I don't think you belong in this game though, unless you can accept that sometimes it is going to be a slog, and sometimes you are going to get curb stomped. That game you ditched would have been invaluable to you. You learn more from the hard games (and losing games) than you do from victories. You were a very bad sport, and you wasted their time. Don't do this.
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It's devs fault SWF is not fun to play against
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yes. it makes you the bad guy.
doesn't matter how bad they were, now you're part of the bad guys.
I fully understand the frustation, but you should just play it out.
the guys might have just been trying to get the 4-man hatch achievement, and now they wasted a bunch of offerings.
good team =/= bully squad. and bully squads usually carry a couple flashlights.
keep in mind, they aren't to blame for the matchmaking. it's not like they seeked out a noob to play against
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I think everyone agrees that DCing when the game is bugged is acceptable, right? And that a rank 15 matched with rank 4s is a bug, right?
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Just don't look at the loading screen or survivor items like I do, and the game becomes a lot easier, because once you get better. No matter what survivors bring you will most likely win.
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Yes, you are.
Don't DC
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The Doctor is my second most hated killer and you DCed. I'm biased so I'm going to keep quiet.
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A team where they're all trying to save and they're all off of gens, I don't see the problem.
Even if you hit the rest of the team and they got off you've traded 1 hook for the whole team to be I injured.
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Yes, yes you are.
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SWF isn't a challenge. its just plain boring and sanctioned cheating because money..
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I got news for you, You can't pip in red ranks without killing a minimum of 3 survivors.
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You got totally screwed by the completely broken matchmaking., but DCing is technically against the rules, and sometimes that's what survivors want the killer to do: they see the killer DCing as a win.
I play for fun and not kills as well. I prefer to go AFK when it's not fun. I stand flush against an exit gate with my nose in the wall and go do something else. Yeah, I'm stuck in the match, but unless the survivors want to DC they have to go play gen repair sim. If I'm still in the room I may get to open the exit gate when the last gen pops, which is nice for the points and to force them out.
A lot of the survivors who act the way you described hate playing gen repair sim. Sometimes they actually do DC once they realize the killer's not going to interact with them.
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I just had a team go afk because i did. I came back to the pc and they were all around me with crows. I downed them all and one hooked.
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I don't get this comment. They quit the game because they weren't going to have fun. What's wrong with that?
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Probably shouldn’t have DC’d. You could have just AFK’d at a gate switch ready to open it once they finished their repair simulator because they’re clearly not interested in fairness.
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Because there are 4 other people in the game wanting to play as well. It's not fair to those 4 other people who also waited for a game. It's irrelevant HOW they played - for all anybody here could know they weren't looking to be "toxic" (stupid word for just playing the game), but working toward a challenge - or like me and just like to play wide open. It's literally 5 or 10 minutes out of your night. If you can't commit to the worst the game can throw at you, then play something else and don't even turn it on.
The last minute switch might be a little bit of a dick move, but at the same time I kinda don't blame them. Too many people dodge lobbies for stupid reasons - so this is why this behavior has come up. If people didn't dodge lobbies, people wouldn't last-minute switch to begin with.
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I understand it's sort of taking 4 other people away from a game, but it was a game where no party was actively trying to... play the game.
Like OP said, it's not a habit. Bodyblocking and using keys are perfectly OK strategies, but saying "screw this specific killer, I'm going to ruin their game by bodyblocking" is almost akin to a killer saying "screw these specific survivors, I'm going to ruin their game with a VPN"
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Don't give up, no matter what! You can still do it!
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I got news for you, I'm the rank 15 killer and THE SWFs are the red ranks
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Yeah but put that in context with your idea of fun. you will rank up to a point where you can't pip and barely get any points while memeing and having fun.
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This is probably the better option. The other is, "oh no my game crashed at loading how strange, must be a bug with when they last second swap to a key...." They do that because they don't want to wait the 5 - 30 seconds for a new killer when one dodges each time, so if that happens they not only have that they have to deal with the entire queue time again.
Generally though myself, I just play it out- but I understand killers not wanting to deal with it, especially if they last second swap to it that's just ugh. Key's are unfair but they are part of the game right now, I just deal with them, but I get annoyed with the last second swap BS because it feels like they are just mocking you at that point.
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At which point my style of playing the game will cause me to depip back to previous rank or safety pip to stay at that rank. I don't play for the rank status, I play for FUN. This is a game, not an office job with 5 managers asking you for your TPS reports.
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so it's fine to ruin the game for 4 other people?
also DCing it's literaly punished with timed bans?
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It is not cheating, it's a full fledged feature of the game. Your hyperbolic nonsense about it being cheating is just the whines of a petulant child who can be safely ignored. Either be willing to step up and face it, or go home and find something more your own speed.
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I think he means SWF when they use things like discord; which the devs said it was not developed around them doing that; and considered it unsportsmanlike behavior to do so, even if there was no way for them to actually enforce or do anything about it.
However, since then, the game has been getting changed a bit to accommodate that fact and balanced more around SWFs existence so it's become less of an issue; and now they are focusing on giving solo queue survivors more information, and have since the few updates leading up to around the Demogorgon and onwards.
However having a discussion about things like that is literally impossible on these forums, people are just going to ree about SWFs being OP/totally fine either way and the devs are making changes based on statistics more than anything so it doesn't matter.
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You DCed because they body-blocked the hook in what I'm presuming is the early game when you just downed your first survivor, giving you so much completely free pressure at the start of the match? Idk why you'd DC, the match would've been much more in your favour even if she did wiggle off your shoulder but...sure I guess.
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What?
1) It's punished with a time ban for the killer. It discourages DC'ing.
2) I'm not saying "DC from every match if it isn't going your way" I'm just saying "If you DC'd from one match that one time where the survivors were purposefully sandbagging you and trying to ruin your fun, it's not that big of a deal"
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If they all come to body block you, they are handing you the game. So, yes.
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I don't understand how an implemented mechanic is cheating? It's not like oh the devs just are ok with people cheating. They physically implemented it so people could play with friends. That doesn't sound like cheating to me if it's an implemented feature of the game.
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No, they implemented it because people kept lobby dodging untill they got matched with their friends combined with bad steam reviews.
The game was not designed for it and it went 3 years before they started to slightly balance around it.
Everyone knows how to buff solo players to near SWF level, the Devs just refuse to do it because they know it is stupid levels of strong and will erase the already shrinking killer population.
I see it game after game, the same stupid formula with no counter. 2 on far gens, one ready to save and one on hook.
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Hey, this isn't a SWF good/evil thread, please stay on topic.
The issue I was asking for input on is weather it's acceptable to leave a game where you feel like you are being bullied.
Stay on topic, or take it to a thread where it IS the topic, please.
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Yeah, I'm with this comment. It's a game, and when a game ceases to be fun, I can't fault someone for quitting. That said, trying to get into the mind set that losing, even terribly, can be fun, will make killer a lot more enjoyable. Everyone gets those matches once in a while, so learning from it is beneficial. Like a lot of folks said, tunneling and camping them out is also a viable strat. They wanted to give you a hard time, give them one back, and let anything else (losing, mean comments, whatever) roll off your back.
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not really. i mean it is really annoying to have a player dc but it was understandable to some extent.
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1) yes. Which is what I said. 🤨
2) they got 1 down, and the survivors gave them a bunch of free pressure by throwing themselves at him. Even if laurie wiggled off he probably would have gotten them all injured.
There's no proof they were trying to ruin anyones fun or sandbagging. They were just playing the game.
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But that was some gross play. I can see why they DCed. I don't myself but jeepers i can see why they did. I realllllly don't condone face camping, but maybe in this situation.
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Yeah.
But they were playing the Doctor. That's "bad guy" in my book. But again, biased, so my point is moot and should be ignored. 🤷♀️
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You really shouldn't DC when this happens. They will think you dced because you were afraid of them and it will fuel their already inflated ego's that much more.
You know they want to be overaltuiristic so get them with that. If they mass bodyblock drop the survivor and go for as many hits as you can
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You should have bailed on the loading screen, after flags 1and 2. Devs don’t want you to know that you can avoid the toxic map and the last second character switches (keys), just by closing out.
no penalty.
I have (in the past) and probably will (now) be banned again for telling you this. I just want Killers to know that it’s easy to spot the try hard SWF, because they ‘need’ their one sided map, and they ‘need’ their safety key.
Just leave before the map loads. Save you a headache and will piss them off. Win/win.
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