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Should this Freddy nerf go through?

Leonardo1ita
Leonardo1ita Member Posts: 2,317

The new changes that they'll make to him

Should this Freddy nerf go through? 81 votes

No don't nerf freddy
27%
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Undecided
11%
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Yes pls nerf freddy
61%
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Comments

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,785
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    Yes, but I think black box needs a different change, and either increase his speed to 105 when placing snares or give him in a extra snare or two.

  • Leonardo1ita
    Leonardo1ita Member Posts: 2,317
    No don't nerf freddy

    So why do you want Freddy nerfed precisely?

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,785
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    He's one of the easiest killers in the game to play while also being one of the strongest. He's rewarded everything passively while also having no consequences to spamming his power mid chase. Add on wise, he had the potential to slow the game down say too much when paired with certain perks and even then his base kit does a pretty good job at it.

    Simply put, he could do everything. He wasn't the best at anything, but he was one of the best at everything which just made him too strong no matter how you cut it.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807
    Undecided

    I don't like the magnitude of the snare place speed change, the other changes look completely fine. Also note that freddy is no longer conditionally immune to BT.

  • Leonardo1ita
    Leonardo1ita Member Posts: 2,317
    No don't nerf freddy

    Do you have any precise idea of how strong a team of 4 high level survivors is against him?

  • SebaOutbreak
    SebaOutbreak Member Posts: 399
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    I always found it annoying that Freddy could spam traps with 0 downsides, while Hag and Trapper have to wait their sweet little time to set everything up. I don't mind the other changes, but I'm glad that they adressed this.

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,785
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    Doesn't matter about strong survivors. The game isn't only balanced around 4 strong survivors, look at the ruin rework for example. They explicitly said they did it bc of newer players.

    Besides, you rarely face high level survivors. I play Clown and I win almost all ot my games and even those that I lose aren't usually high level survivors.

    If the game was completely balanced around high level survivors then I don't think the game would be in a great spot.

  • immortalls96
    immortalls96 Member Posts: 4,652
    No don't nerf freddy

    No because their reasoning for it is based on data more flawed than an uncut diamond

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,785
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    Although usually I don't agree with stats being the sole reason, if he's averaging three kills a game in red ranks it tells you either he's really strong or really unfun to face and survivors are suiciding on hook. In either of the cases, he needed a nerf due to how easy he was to play.

  • immortalls96
    immortalls96 Member Posts: 4,652
    No don't nerf freddy

    That's not an excuse and he's averaging 3 kills because there's no barrier between skill levels,, pig has the second highest I suppose shes too easy as well then?

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,785
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    Pig has the fourth highest when we take that to red ranks, and although 2% doesn't sound like a lot, she has about a 2% smaller pick rate than Freddy, who is both the heighest for kills and has one of the heighest pick rates among the rest of the cast. That's why Nurse is the lowest on the red rank rates. Has a high pick rate but not all of her 6% is good with her, while majority of Freddys 5.7% is good with him which isn't that hard. It's also why Doc and Bubba take second and third with also high kill rates. They're killers that aren't too hard to play that can win often.

    Unlike Pig, a lot of the community voices their complaints about Freddy, usually poor survivors complain about Pig but most survivors and even 50/50 players and some killer mains realised he was too strong for how little effort you had to put in to him. If stats were only taken, Pig, Bubba and Doc would have been nerfed but the fact that he's one of the most complained about killers (Only behind Spirit) means that people do truly dislike him.

    Finally, according to the devs saying he is averaging 3 kills a game, that means been doing so for the past 6 months and the explicitly say at the start of it "For some time now" which shows that they're not looking back only 6 months ago, they're looking at the fact that even with new additions and changes that his kill rate hasn't fluctuated at the top. While many other killers kill rates may have changed (Which makes so much of your argument invalid with Pig) the devs have their own up to date stats which tell them he's still averaging 3ks.

  • mintchapstick
    mintchapstick Member Posts: 891
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    God, yes. He just does WAY too much. At the moment it feels like there's no reason to play other killers, because he can just do everything.

  • Gibberish
    Gibberish Member Posts: 1,063
    No don't nerf freddy

    No, absolutley not. Weaker killers should be brought upwards, the few good killers should not be brought down.

  • Clevite
    Clevite Member Posts: 4,335
    Undecided

    Why I do see Freddy as a pain in the ass sometimes, and admittedly haven't played him myself in almost a year, due to easy mechanics and a high rate of DCs, I am not for Nerfing everything in the game. It seems all the recent threads are nerf this and nerf that. I also don't think having every single killer being equally powerful is feasible, with all of them having different powers.

    So in short, I am anti nerf and believe we should have a few killers that are strong.

  • immortalls96
    immortalls96 Member Posts: 4,652
    No don't nerf freddy

    Once again their stays mean nothing because there's no process

  • ChurchofPig
    ChurchofPig Member Posts: 2,769
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    I feel like how Freddy is now is unhealthy for the game (unless you play in a 4 person swf who are very good a coordinating). I don't agree with every single change, but I also don't know how I'd change what I don't agree with so I'll just leave it alone.

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  • Necromancer_Yoda
    Necromancer_Yoda Member Posts: 22
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    I agree with the nerfs for the most part I just wish they gave him more interesting add ons. Granted the slow down ones needed to go, but literally just turning up the volume on certain actions seems rather boring. It doesn't help that most of the other add ons are already nearly useless or so niche they are not worth it.

    I do hope that the nerfed speed when placing a snare doesn't make him feel clunky though, that is my biggest concern.

  • DwightFairfield
    DwightFairfield Member Posts: 1,246
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    he's pay to win, i'd rather spirit get a buff than freddy's changes get reverted

    at least spirit requires SOME effort and the ability to hear things, freddy just ignores perks and has no terror radius passively, plus his power is uncounterable, you're always going to fall asleep regardless of what you do.

  • swager21
    swager21 Member Posts: 1,019
    No don't nerf freddy

    they were a bit too harsh on him. they killed the only thing that would actually help him in chases. i agree with the alarm clock and addon nerf (to some extent even the snare limit)

  • Necromancer_Yoda
    Necromancer_Yoda Member Posts: 22
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    You have no clue what you are asking for if you would rather spirit get buffed. Spirit is just as easy as Freddy if you have a headset.

    The only perk that Freddy ignores is BT which they are thankfully fixing. The fact that he has no terror radius in the dream world also means he can not use infectious to become a slugging monster.

    Freddy is not unbeatable, He is just as beatable as any other killer. He isn't even in the top 5 best killers. It is hard to call him pay to win when he is simply a good killer with god awful perks.

  • WishIcouldmain
    WishIcouldmain Member Posts: 4,082
    No don't nerf freddy

    Rework him instead.

  • eternalguard
    eternalguard Member Posts: 16

    Rework is nerfing basically and also I'm against the nerf. This isn't an ordinary nerf it's a super nerf. In the beginning he was op sure then u nerfed him which made him weaker but still doable. Now you turn him into the worst killer to play as. As all his add-ons turn into garbage and are useless. Plus bubba is in my opinion the most abused killer in the game simply because he has no chainsaw cooldown so If he missed you with his saw he can just swing his weapon instead. Too many ppl think freddy is still op but that only means survivors just want an easy game to play. Having tough killers is useful in this game which helps survivors learn and adapt to playing against these killers. Simply put survivors just want to be lazy and want to put zero effort into ranking up.

  • eternalguard
    eternalguard Member Posts: 16

    Dbd is a horror survival game simply nerfing killers constantly destroys the whole point of the game. And no longer makes this a horror or survival game it'll turn into a casual game

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,701
    Yes pls nerf freddy

    Although personally I would have changed his kit in different ways based on upcoming mechanics

    1. Dream snares and dream pallets can be disarmed while affected by the alarm clocks 30 seconds of sleep immunity, basically you can see the traps really well and disable them during this time
    2. Make dream snares and pallets have 8 and 10 tokens again but keep the slowdown while placing them
    3. Change how falling asleep works to have 40 points to fall asleep and gain 1 point per second in freddys terror radius, 0.33 points per second outside of his terror radius, and instantly fall asleep on hit
    4. Make his dream pallets the basekit power so you have to give up addon slots for snares

    Overall this would make putting survivors asleep a more active effort and allow survivors to disarm his dream traps set up ahead of time at stronger loops using the alarm clocks while still giving him resources to set up ahead of time

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,030
    No don't nerf freddy

    nope as a person who absolutely despised Freddy, I still think the nerf was over done

  • SammiieK1991
    SammiieK1991 Member Posts: 686
    No don't nerf freddy

    Playing SWF is one of the ones that people don't like. I agree it makes the game easier if you're up against strong killers! I honestly don't feel like they should be nursing freddy. He's fine the way he is and our survivor perks are so easy to counter him. I don't agree that everything needs a nurf, sadly that seems to be the most popular opinion recently.

  • IWasLeft2Die
    IWasLeft2Die Member Posts: 2,405
    No don't nerf freddy

    He does need some nerfs but this makes him no longer worth anyone time. He will be very bad