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trickster still F tier
those buffs did nothing.
Just make him 115% like we've all been saving with trickblades as base kit
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so exploding knives or trick knives as basekit then?
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I really dont understand why people say 115% would help the killer lmao. It would just make him a better m1 killer, but it wouldnt fit why he is bad. Its like saying trapper needs a buff, make him 120%. It would help him but doesnt actually buff him where it needs. These buffs for the trickster are welcome additions and im excited for what else they have planned for him.
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Yea I dont like the idea of makeing him 115
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Blades should bounce base kit.
He also needs to require less blades to actually hurt a survivor (maybe not a ton less but at least a little).
Movement speed I don't think is needed if both of those changes happen
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They need to remove the recoil and just make him away when rapidly his power but I don't know if that would help since his knife can be easily dodged.
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his blades are too weak to justify the slow movement speed
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Making him 115 would encourage players not to use his ability. It’s why Nurse is 97% movement speed.
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I’m going to be crucified for this but trickster is honestly annoying as ######### to go against. There’s nothing fun about being at a low wall loop against him with 60 knives at his disposal. Not to mention his deathslinger styled terror radius that makes a ranged killer pseudo stealth for some reason
Im not trying to say he is OP or anything but it goes to show how trickster is just a flawed design on both sides
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He's heading for a rework in all likelihood. Same situation as OG Legion. For this power to be anything other than awful, it's going to be super unfun to go against.
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SWF has been unfun since day 1 and they keep getting buffed
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Yeah, it's crazy how map dependent he is. On maps like Lery's where there are tons of obstacles and very few classic loops you can throw over, he's absolutely awful. On the Blood Lodges of the world where there are a lot of low loops, though, he can effectively turn large regions of the map into dead zones just by existing.
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so can huntress and deathslinger, but better
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Didn't take a fortune teller to saw that one coming. His entire design/kit is inherently flawed, who even creates a killer who has to hit 8 projectiles while being 110%? This makes no sense, you're better off playing Deathslinger or Huntress - period.
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Yeah tried him a bit and he’s still trash. The random recoil has got to go that’s just really stupid, and he’s still so damn slow
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Yep completely agree soon as the update was installed I was excited to use him again already miss my Huntress. He does move more smoothly that part I like but there is just not enough time and the current meta for this killer and his power. I have always felt since the beginning eight blades was just too much even with the increased 20 seconds before dilaceration meter resets they either need to get rid of the reset or decrease the blades required. Or at the very least buff his speed so that it's not so easy to break line of sight on him.
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Another note he has the same speed as huntress and slinger however I don't feel affected by it with them like I do with Trickster
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What legion have to do with the trickster? lol they are completely different.. Legion is the master of M1 and can injure close survivors in no time. The trickster can't do that at all. Knives are trash and doing M1 is not the way to play him since he is slow as a snail.
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Yeah I do not get it either. most of his changes had no impact on gameplay. Reduced recoil did nothing, increased laceration by 5 did nothing and decreased wind-up also did nothing. All the problems that were there before remain same.
- He is gets countered by high wall loops, the keep-up is still slower than survivors.
- He still does no damage. 8 hits per injury, 16 for a down on a healthy survivor
- Survivors still heal his damage over-time.
- He still has no control over his main event.
Until they fix these points, his power will ineffective regardless of what movement speed goes.
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To those who don't want Trickster to be 115%, why not?
The biggest issue with Trickster is looping around tight jungle gyms and running around high walls. By the time Trickster raises a knife, the Survivor can just a turn a corner and only get a couple of knives hit. It'll simply take forever for him to get one health state just by using knives in these particular areas. If he was 115, he has a better chance of running right behind the survivor then going ham.
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You can't keep your Abillity!
He is too slow and his animations and lore makes the gameplay ridiculus because:
It looks like he is running, but the trapper WALKS faster (even michael moonwalks faster)
It looks like he is jumping through a vault location (like the blight) but it takes too long!
in my opinion increase his movement speed and add instant vaulting to make him better then we dont have to complain about keeping main event!
Another thing: Who the Hell uses his addons when out of Blades? Rework the Lucky Blade and the Waiting for you watch!
With these Buffs he would be a better killer to play.
One last Thing: it doesnt have to do anything with this but about the Blight: Instant vaulting while rushing and Plague bile should be base kit.
I would be pleased then thanks.
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Trickster needs some of his buffs reverted now or just needs an overhaul. He just isn't fun to go against in the PTB. It's not even a match. He just butt-rides you now with his yellow shoes add-on and he seems to never miss you. I can't wait to go afk against this killer like I do with Spirit and Gunslinger. FeelsGoodMan. Even my friends who have went against him cannot stand him now. He's just as oppressive at the other 2. Hell, even PH is just as overbearing if he keeps his attack down and waits for you to throw the pallet or run. You know why? He gets a hit no matter what :D Fun design! Very interactive! /s Let's just keep adding range killers because everyone has a bundle of fun :D Don't worry about me, though. I'll just afk from now if the changes go live. Slowly edging away from this game again like I've done in the past a few times due to terrible design changes.
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He is basically huntress but worse in every way.
He feels better with the qol buffs but experienced survivors just loop him for days.
It's unfortunate that this is most likely where bhvr will leave him because he's such a cool character imo.
Can't believe we have a killer worse than clown 😶
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To not make him another boring M1 killer that can forget about his power. I think most people and i include myself wants a better power that really justify the slow mov speed. Huntress and deathslinger have proper powers that justify their speed. The trickster not at all.
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I'd actually rather be Trickster in a low-wall loop. The 60 knives mean he can miss a ton of knives and still do damage while Deathslinger and Huntress are punished a lot more for missing. They're both of course better than him in other ways, though.
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People thought the Antidote Bottles were Clown's rework to make him not the worst killer, but Trickster's release was the actual rework :D
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I used up all 60 knives for 1 survivor looping me.
trickster is too ######### slow to use his knives
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You do realize a 115 Killer with no power is terrible right? I mean, name me one 115 Killer who doesn't use their power at all. But yes I do understand he needs a buff to his power overall.
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Overall he is the weakest killer in the game at the moment, even with the buffs. He needs a rework in his design. He has the same speed as Huntress, and Deathslinger. But he does not have the ability to put the pressure that those two characters are able to put. As those character are able to injure a survive with one hit, thus placing pressure on the team. And he feels slower because the Trickster has to take his knifes out constantly, were as huntress will only take her knife out 5 times, and thus making him appear slower as he has to place out his knifes for longer periods of time. Which is the reason why he feels slower than huntress or slinger. But overall the problem is unless the survivor does not know what they are doing running in a straight line and looping in short loops, it is vert difficult to injure people quick who know all you have to do in some maps is click shift+W. For example a good huntress can end a chase in less than 20 seconds, were as with the trickster it can take up to 40 seconds, to a minute to end a chase, since you have to a hit a person 16 times. I think maybe it should take 5 or 4 knifes to injure a survivor, and 8 knifes to take a survivor down. So you can have a sort of quick pressure placed on survivors. His main event should be an ability should be used when you need it such as Oni, and maybe it should be similar to huntress iridescent head were you throw one knife, and are able to down a full injured survivor. And maybe he does need to be a 4.6 killer, as he is slowed down longer than other killers, based on his ability.
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yeah, these were just quality of life changes and not a the buff he needed. Trickster still struggles with the same issues. He needs to be a 115 killer that can hold on to main event until he needs it and make trick blades basekit. THEN he will be at least a C-B class killer.
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If you could just hold on to the main event I would be happy at this point.
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Yes but at least dodging them feels satisfying
Dodging trickster feels more like “Great another 59 to go”
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git gud swf with comms
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Did I ever say he was OP or even strong? I just said he’s annoying to fight against
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These buffs make him feel better to play but they pretty much do nothing to fix the core issues.
The core issue he has is low lethality. If his power was insanely good it would be justified for him to be 110 and as slow as Huntress.
But his lethality is 8 times weaker than Huntress and it doesn't even matter until you take a health state. Imagine if Huntress hatchets made survivors heal the health state after 20 seconds if she didn't connect another.. that's how bad Trickster is.
Still the worst killer in the game, but at least he's fun? I guess, if you don't care about getting bullied and playing a fun killer, go for it
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swf is annoying to play against
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And Your point?
edit: I’m saying trickster shouldn’t be 115% instead they should focus on making his power more interactive for both sides
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you trolling ?
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