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So when are we getting another Trickster buff?

Trickster still sucks, its too slow and it feels like Survivors can actually out-run it.

My suggestion, improve the movement speed and make ricochet blades basekit, because right now, Trickster is just a joke and we expected better given how much of a fuss you guys are making over this K-pop thing.

Comments

  • Frontdoor6
    Frontdoor6 Member Posts: 609
    edited April 2021

    I can't do it! I cannot play Trickster in this state. I've never been the one to dc from matches since the penalty, but playing Trickster pushes it too far! Now i've gone from 4 min to 13 mins somehow.

    WTH is wrong with that penalty system anyway? Shouldn't there be a refresh state somewhere along the line?

    common Devs, help us out here.

    Post edited by Frontdoor6 on
  • Lord_Tony
    Lord_Tony Member Posts: 2,109

    his blades should cause broken so you can't heal mid chase or activate that dumb endurance medkit add on

  • lob
    lob Member Posts: 177

    right after resident evil chapter basically never

  • WiiFitTrainer
    WiiFitTrainer Member Posts: 788
    edited April 2021

    Not for another year or two I'd say.

    In bhvrs mind, they put enough time in him already and are extremely unlikely to put any more thought into him until some mid chapter patch a loooooong way down the road

  • jarjargist21
    jarjargist21 Member Posts: 444

    I honestly think the devs should change the amount of knives he needs to injure a survivor.

    I would have changed it to 4 instead of 8. Maybe make slightly faster then he is now. Maybe change his special ability when he uses one knives to injure a survivor whole health state and change the time limit to 30 seconds to use instead of 10 seconds it's way to short.

    Maybe my his laceration permanent. It's kinda ridiculous that he has a timer on that.

    Right now he's a bit better with his blades, it made him a c tier.

    If I'm completely honest this chapter was a real disappointment like the twins was. I just hope the resident evil isn't disappointing.

  • Jasix
    Jasix Member Posts: 1,245

    Yes please keep purposefully DCing so the rest of us don't have to deal with you.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 5,229

    It will probably be a little longer.

    I doubt we will be lucky enough to get another one by the time the PTB changes go live, but we'll see. If not then, it will probably be a month or more until he gets more improvements.

    To his credit he is functional now, but he's down in the area of like...pre-buffed wraith. Maybe a little better than that.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Most chapters get relooked at after 2 midchapters iirc so after the next chapter i think.

    He's not good but with the new buffs he's not unplayably bad anymore. People now actually have a chance to get good at him. On pc atleast, on console he will always be bad by design.

    Biggest tip i can give right now is don't always hold m1 in chase. Just tap it constantly. You throw ever so slightly slower but way more stable. Only hold m1 when they are animation locked.

  • A_Vaulting_Nurse
    A_Vaulting_Nurse Member Posts: 34

    The knives could at least interrupt actions like doctors shock.

  • Zozzy
    Zozzy Member Posts: 4,759

    Not permanent but a choice. Waste time removing blades or risk being 1 hit from injured.

  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604

    they just need to buff him to 115% and remove the Decay on laceration and hes good tbh

  • AegisReflector
    AegisReflector Member Posts: 5

    You guys haven't played against a killer who knows how to use trickster yet, have you? Trust me he is pretty good now. Is he still weak at certain tiles, and it hurts him because he is 110% killer? Absolutely. He will never be as strong as nurse, spirit, or blight innately because he is 110% and there are a decent amount of big maps. But there are many situations where no matter what you do, he will down you fast.

    He can 100-0 you from healthy to dying VERY fast compared to huntress and slinger if he catches you in a spot where has vision of you at all times, which is more common then you think. Just be patient and give it a few weeks until people start to realize that he can actually be quite toxic to play against.

    I've been using him a lot lately and 4K'ng good players at rank 1. Some of the matches go to 1 gen left but that is expected to the map sizes and gen split pressure. Even the best SWF's i've played against where everyone held W and abused los (trickster's weaknesses), I always got a 2-3 K and imo that is a win or draw in my book. Don't sleep on the trickster and definitely don't over buff him. He is also a blast to play because people always try to clown you then realize they can't haha.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 5,229

    The typical "The killer isn't weak, because I do amazing with him, I'm so good with him, I win every game and I never lose, 100 wins in a row must be you" post.

    This gets tiring.

  • Frontdoor6
    Frontdoor6 Member Posts: 609
    edited April 2021

    Thats very offending towards a guy with Aspergers

    I bet you would like to hear that if you had bad matches with killer

    Post edited by Frontdoor6 on
  • Hex_Llama
    Hex_Llama Member Posts: 1,834

    Trickster still feels bad to me, too. I'd be happy with any of the most common suggestions that come up -- go normal speed, have knives bounce by default so they feel cool, give some reward for partially lacerating someone instead of all or nothing...

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  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,445

    I'm not entirely sure, but in all honesty, the part of him that still needs help is just Main Event. His base kit is actually pretty solid now.

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    He needs a nerf more than a buff.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    Have you ever thought that maybe you're just not very good with trickster, and may never be so you should instead try a different killer that you might actually be good with?

  • Jasix
    Jasix Member Posts: 1,245

    I have had plenty of matches of bad killers and yet never once purposefully DC'd.

    I would say the exact same thing to someone with or without Asperger's as my comment has no relevance towards any disability. I don't edit my comments because someone is having a bad day or has a disability because my comments are not spiteful - they may be blunt and honest, but without malice. If you have trouble with criticism of your actions or people rebuking your posts - that is something you need to work on. Everyone on these forums has a right to post their opinion. I stated a fact - I am glad you are getting banned for purposefully disconnecting as that lessens the chance I end up having you in one of my lobbies. I dislike others ruining my games because they don't want to face certain killers, etc.- regardless of their gender, sexuality, disability, etc - Truth.

    Don't try to paint a bias where none exists.

  • Spy
    Spy Member Posts: 37

    Has a trickster main (i know this may make my opinion invalid but still hear me out) i think he's way better now. Ever since he came out i've been playing him non stop. With these buffs he is way stronger than he was before, does that mean he's a tier? No. He's mid b tier in my opinion, really fast down potential but mid to low map pressure. There is certain loops he can't deal with, but for the most part he's pretty alright on most. Soo honestly, i don't think a change is urgent right now. He is playable, he is fun and he can be good. With the right perks you can 2-3 k every game.