Blatant exploiting (Breakdown) needs to be bannable
I'm gonna be straight to the point, you need to make an announcement that running Breakdown is a bannable offense until you fix it as you did when Legion mend addons were bugged. The perk right now is bugged and hooks are down for the entire game. Went against a full swf and 2k'd against them on a match where I was dumpstering them, would've been a guaranteed 4k if I could hook people and he didn't get hatch, but I physically couldn't actually hook them anymore, half the map was pretty much completely safe because they were basically immune because of the 9 hooks I had previously, I didn't notice it until the first guy was dead and when I went to hook him if I didn't have agitation it would've probably been at most a 1k because of how many hooks were gone already. They had soul guard and I decided to bring Third Seal as a meme and I payed the price for it, picked the next guy I could find and slugged him to death. Seriously make it a bannable offense, I have seen maybe 3-4 people ever run that perk before this bug and now I get them every other game, it's not all of a sudden meta, it's bull #########. Please don't pull another Wake Up and let people get away with blatant exploiting over a month+ for free.
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I didnt even know this was a thing.
They should definitely put up an ingame warning and start banning everyone who abuses it. This needs more attention.
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Other day I had a claudette in my match with No Mither and breakdown together
Luckily it was Pyramid Head and he had Iron Grasp so she didn't get any sort of satisfaction from it but she had a build specifically designed to exploit Breakdown
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What can I say Breakdown is meta
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Truuuuee
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They have the power to just disable the perk until it's fixed, but you know....BHVR.
But they can always do what they did before with legion and ban people who have spent up to £200+ on the game for using something that's in the game lol.
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You had to mention Infinite Mend AND Wake Up in the same thread?!
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Bhvr:*breakdown makes it so you cant hook all survivors as a glitch basically* i sleep.
Also bhvr:*nurse has a bug that might make it so you go faster by blink hitting* THATS BANNABLE.
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It's the same crap as with the old wake up bug. But ideally you wouldn't have to put up with it, and you wouldn't have to ban for it, because normal game developers have a way to disable things like this until they're fixed.
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They should really put up a warning. I imagine people don't use it often because of it being a bad perk and don't know about it being bugged.
It's a shame I was thinking about using it breakdown untill people told me it was bugged.
(Seriously please fix it so I can use it)
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Remember when Legion's double blade combo was made bannable?
Breakdown is okay though. It's a survivor thing. It's just a tech.
Breakdown tech.
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Works fine for me
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If they actually cared about the bug they'd just disable breakdown, which is less work than banning people who are abusing the bug and not susceptible to accidently banning people who decided to use the perk just because.
Banning people for using bugs that are anything short of literally making the game completely unplayable is stupid, in any game. Literally just fix the bug
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Also. @Peanits @not_Queen @MandyTalk
One of you. We need a statement. This isn't something you can be silent on. Cause all of a sudden, Breakdown has coincidentally become meta. You were quick to ban Legion players for exploiting double blades back in the day. At least give us the courtesy of communication.
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Breakdown isn’t acting up for me and I just tried it. I have a console.
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This probably explains some of my games where half of the map has no hooks and I never really thought about why lmao
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I'm a console guy as well
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bump to keep this alive
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why not just disable a perk?
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I just had the same experience, there was literally no hook on the map except basement
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If a bug is this game breaking something definitely needs to be done about it.
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As you tagged a mod (Mandy) allow me to quote another (@Gay Myers (Luzi)):
Breakdown is not bannable - people who do not frequent the forums or social media might take it for a sabo build without any knowledge of it being broken, plus you can still end a game. That's also why the pallet stun situation isn't bannable either, which has been also requested to be bannable.
Please don't report people for it.
Also in terms of your other comment- BHVR have never banned for perks specifically, to the best of my knowledge. Add-ons, yes- infinite mending legion, fast nurse being the two that spring to mind- however never for perks.
Edit: Because I know someone will come here like "defending an exploit cause it's for a survivor so entitled"- it still has to be fixed ASAP and I completely agree it should be disabled until they can get a fix for it, however that's probably why it's not being banned for.
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I have the same problem as killer, people are abusing Breakdown.
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I play as "nice" as a killer can anymore. And if you bring breakdown, I will straight tunnel your ass out of the game.
That is like school on Sunday, ...No class.
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I don't care what mods say, it's an exploit so I report any players running it.
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Finally more people might play Jeff!
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Afaik they didn't ban people for the bugged Sloppy Butcher and Tinkerer on The Wraith? Legion's exploit was deliberate and obvious, using Wake-up or Breakdown can be incidental by fans of those perks. I remember being accused of exploits when I ran Wake-up during the bugged window and had no idea there was an issue with it. I used it alongside NOLB, Hope, and that other end-game perk so it was obvious yet still got hatemail.
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That’s what I said about Yui after Lucky Break’s buff lol
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Honestly I just thought I was going crazy. Glad to see someone else talking about the bug.
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I have a great story to tell. I've posted it on another post, but I'm sure all of you would love to hear it, so sit back and read if you'd like. Lemme copy & paste it real quick...
I had a game as Blight against a SWF team that had 2 No Mithers and 2 saboteurs. I think all of them had Breakdown, and they were all abusing it. At that time, Breakdown was bugged (and still is).
Basically their strategy was to get hooked near each other in the corner of the map, they pulled it off sadly, and their plan was to use that corner to their advantage. The No Mither guys would run into that corner and attempt to loop me with the pallet they saved there, and if the pallet was gone they would try to just hold W to that corner and let themselves get downed there. If I tried to pick them up, the hooks would be SO far away it would have been impossible to hook them. If I left them downed there, they would have recovered up an infinite amount of times and then go to a generator. Even if I tried going to the closest one, the flashlight saver (if he was up) would try to flashlight save. If that failed, the other two would try to bodyblock and use Breakout to screw me over so that the No Mither user wiggles out. I realized what they were trying to do and I had a plan.
My plan was to try and slug them so they bleed out. "But wouldn't making them bleed out take too much time?" Yeah, you're right. But you have 0 idea how many times I've downed these guys, even I lost count. So near the end of the game, I prioritized in killing the saboteur Yui so that it would be easier for me to focus on the others, maybe allowing me to get hooks. My idea worked... sort of. I was in a perfect situation with 3 of the survivors in that corner. I downed the Feng, downed the No Mither David, left them there, David recovers up, I wait 9 seconds to down him back, their bleedout timers are almost over. Unfortunately, the other NM David was gone. He was doing a gen. I didn't care, I needed these two dead. I would take a 3k. Now this is where the miracle happens.
The Feng and the David bled out.
After finishing his gen, the other David runs to them before they bled out, but he failed them, they were already dead. Aaaand I lethal rushed and hit him, left him there to bleed out because I didn't want to risk him getting hatch. Plus it was in the corner with the 2 hooks breakdowned. Later in the game they breakdowned more hooks around that corner, so it was actually impossible to hook anyone from that corner, even without bodyblockers. I am proud to take my W. Here are the game results:
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I tried exactly 2 matches with Breakdown to see if it was actually bugged, and sure enough, it was. I felt very dirty using Breakdown even when I barely got any value. I really don't want to encounter a squad that's all using Breakdown.
If they can disable Red Forest for ~2 weeks, they need to disable the perk Breakdown until it's fixed.
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That's also why the pallet stun situation isn't bannable either, which has been also requested to be bannable
Huh,why would he mention the pallet stun thing?
It's not like you could abuse it on purpose.
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you actually can; it's all a matter of timing when you lunge. it's not that difficult to do so if you learn the timings.
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Really?
Hmm,i just play the game normally and sometimes i just get stunned and sometimes not.
Weird
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yeah, as freddy and wraith im really consistent with it actually lol
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Exploit is exploit and just because its a perk and not a add on, doesnt mean it shouldnt be bannable. It should be disabled and if not they SHOULD ban for it, no matter if its a perk, addon, cosmetic or whatever. You do it to gain a unfair advantage.
Sure there are some people who doesnt know about it and just want to use it (happened to me with the speed nurse) and thats why they should just disable it entirely or atleast make a message ingame.
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Allow me to direct your eyes here:
Edit: Because I know someone will come here like "defending an exploit cause it's for a survivor so entitled"- it still has to be fixed ASAP and I completely agree it should be disabled until they can get a fix for it, however that's probably why it's not being banned for.
I would like to highlight:
it still has to be fixed ASAP and I completely agree it should be disabled until they can get a fix for it
So, I literally agreed with what you just said, in which case, why bother to comment?
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What if this is an unannounced buff? When was the last time a survivor wiggled free in your matches? Hooks are way too close together and I would love it if Breakdown caused permanent damage.
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I respect the developers' decision not to ban anyone, and I do not feel that anyone should receive a ban for using Breakdown as they may not be aware of the glitch. However, it really would be best to disable the perk until the developers can fix it. As people continue talking about the glitch, the number of players using Breakdown will only increase, which may become quite problematic.
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Did you say something Sluzzy? We have heard your broken record so often that all I hear now is that "MWABLAHS MUWAA" sounds the adults make in a Charlie Brown cartoon.
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Feh, let them run it. I'll just bring back the old slugging builds to compensate - then we'll see who gets the last laugh.
Knock Out and Deer Stalker anybody?
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I know one thing for sure, respawning hooks makes it too easy. They even respawn very quickly when saboed. Killers need to have a reason to use iron grasp.
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I know, i just wanted to say what i think about it.
I mean, isnt that for what the forums exists?
Sorry if it sounded like i were disagreeing with you or anything like that.
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Survivors need to have a reason to use Breakout, Flip-Flop, etc
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How gamebreaking are we talking?
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I now understand why so many of the survivors I matched with today suddenly had No Mither.
Also: this is a good example of an instance where you should be able to report someone. Just because it isn't always possible to know that someone's exploiting a bug on purpose, that doesn't mean it isn't ever possible to know. Four people who show up with Breakdown and run to the same corner like that are clearly doing it on purpose.
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Mhm, this is where reporting should actually be necessary. Unfortunately, they were all on console (except one) and I was on PC so I don't think I could have gotten them punished. Correct me if I'm wrong so I can try reporting console players next time something like this happens.
I made a big mistake by not reporting them.
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This is my fault for wishing Breakdown got a buff. BHVR went and took it too far, and now all hell broke loose.
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I have no issues with it. Hooks are 5-10 meters away from each other. And it can only get rid of a max of 12 out of like 40.
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No.
They will not ban survivor.
It will be something like break down tech not a bug.
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