What's the reasoning behind the chat filter?

Rivyn
Rivyn Member Posts: 3,033

I really am curious about this. In a game who's entire premise is to torture and murder other players, with visuals and aesthetics aimed at just that, why are the devs inclined to put effort (terribly done at that, since half the dictionary is #####) and time into such a feature? The option to hide post game chat is already in. What's the point?

Even with the way it was implemented, it just feels like this is a shoddy attempt to piggy back on color blind mode.

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  • bm33
    bm33 Member Posts: 8,505

    Interview from 9 months ago at around 45 minute mark Cote talks about implementing sanitized chat.


  • ShamelessPigMain
    ShamelessPigMain Member Posts: 1,878

    It's indicative of the disconnect between the game and the gamers. It's like artists and their art. Plenty of people enjoy The Rite of Spring, but bring up human sacrifice in the after-show party and you'll end up in cuffs. The devs probably wanted to keep the actual, real-life endgame chat from becoming the trials.

    And I've stated this as my own hypothesis before, but online mediums of communications are required to moderate and filter illegal activity on their services if they want to keep their section 230 immunities. Video game chats aren't exactly Twitter, but better safe than in court.

  • unluckycombo
    unluckycombo Member Posts: 582

    Originally, from what I understand, it was purely put in to help curb the use of hate speech/harrasment in end game chat. (Pretty much just banning words/phrases that were considered to be racist or super duragotry.) Ngl, I personally didn't even know that was a major issue until they made the announcement (1k hours and I never received anything too awful.), but I didn't mind it.

    Though, recently, I have been. From what I understood, the bot that bans the words is supposed to grow and get better, and has apparently gotten to the point where it's started censoring some more basic profanity- even though, from what I understood from the Twitter thread, it won't ban cursing.

    Idk, I don't mind a profanity filter for racially charged/super duragotry words or phrases, but I also don't think their built-in filter should censor me because my response to someone flaming me is 'I eat ***.'

  • Bwsted
    Bwsted Member Posts: 3,452

    In a age rated game with a filter as right as the one they implemented? At this point it's probably just a way to cut down on reports for chat abuse so they don't have to deal with that.

  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    Honestly i'd like the option to turn the filter off. Not a fan of it being forced on. I don't care about bad language and the like.

  • Rivyn
    Rivyn Member Posts: 3,033

    I won't deny that, but at the same time, you can't deny that what was given was a half assed feature meant to placate the community after the color blind debacle. If you want to censor homophobic slurs and racist, derogatory messages, go for it. I can support that 100%. But if I want to call the Feng that farmed me off hook and sandbagged me an ass in order to vent after match, or ask Myers why he didn't mori me after a farming session, and half the message is ####, then it seems to be a conflict of interest.

    It's an M rated game. Going from ripping somebodies tongue out to censoring killer in a basic 'gg killer,' is condescending. At the very least, you could get the option to turn it off. I'd like to think, as adults (at least, a good amount of us players are, I hope), we'd be mature enough to handle a few 'naughty' words.

    Is the word naughty censored too? I hadn't thought to try it. Probably should make a list of all the censored words.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    The filter is very poorly implimented. I think there's a couple of threads that have tried to list all the nonsensical censors.

  • Zozzy
    Zozzy Member Posts: 4,759

    Looks like they went with the cheapest option possible lol

  • Ecstasy
    Ecstasy Member Posts: 426

    The chat filter allows them to maintain an illusion of being proactive about toxicity while doing literally nothing.

    It's basically security theater. You block the no-no words---whether used in toxic communication or a perfectly healthy expression of one's self and personality--so no one can make specific reports saying "they called me mr no-no" anymore.

    Of course, it doesn't matter whether that's censored or a different term entirely. Communication is about intent, not the medium. That actual toxicity still passes through unimpeded to create the exact same conseqeuences. The only thing you've done is block that very specific medium while also blocking that medium in a way that limits the forms of legitimate self-expression too.

    But you get to SAY you're doing something now. Because no one gets told to suicide in chat anymore. Instead they just read things like "Kiss Your Self" and once they figure out what that means, well, toxicity accomplished all the same. They've got to take a stance removing/punsihing toxic users to actually remove any toxicity. Everything else is more security theater.

  • Phasmamain
    Phasmamain Member Posts: 11,543

    Just because it’s a murder simulator doesn’t mean you have to be called racial slurs after the match

  • BubbaDredge
    BubbaDredge Member Posts: 816

    I'm guessing it's because people who worship the Orange God embraced racism so much that it's bleeding into their normal aftergame rants. Never heard about racism in DBD until recently, now I see videos of it on youtube, that makes a game look bad.

    Also plenty of "I hope your family/children/mother gets _________", death threats, etc. People act like scum because they often are.

    Being a toxic/racist community doesn't help sales. Can't have nice things because of trash.