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Reverse bear trap and hatch

michaelmyers87
michaelmyers87 Member Posts: 458
in General Discussions
doesnt make sense

Comments

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    Makes sense to me.

    Hatch and end game gonna change in the next couple patches anyways so might change this.

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    The Timer is still going, so I don't understand.
    When they escape, does it still set it off? How do they take it off?

    wut

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    @ReneAensland said:
    The Timer is still going, so I don't understand.
    When they escape, does it still set it off? How do they take it off?

    wut

    When they jump through, they dematerialize... The RBT is tied to The PIG... Both go onto the next trial.

    It all happens within a split second.. but The PIG and RBT dematerializes first before the timer can't go off.

  • PigNRun
    PigNRun Member Posts: 2,428
    edited November 2018

    @TheBean said:

    @ReneAensland said:
    The Timer is still going, so I don't understand.
    When they escape, does it still set it off? How do they take it off?

    wut

    When they jump through, they dematerialize... The RBT is tied to The PIG... Both go onto the next trial.

    It all happens within a split second.. but The PIG and RBT dematerializes first before the timer can't go off.

    That makes no sense. Trap would go off before you jumped into the hatch. Same way traps go off when you attempt to leave through the exit gates with one of them on you.

    What we see here is a balance reason. They wanted to leave an alternative to the exit gate escape after removing the trap. I still think, considering Amanda-chan's current state, using the hatch should kill the Survivor as well.

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  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167
    The killer caught you, why should you not have to put in the work?
  • Mindglow
    Mindglow Member Posts: 11
    I never understood why it doesn't trigger. Common sense says that it should  
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    Because the Hatch is a manifestation of the Entity, thus it ignores the RBT timer since the Entity knows that survivor is coming back again anyways.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813
    I love when people try to use logic to make arguments against design choices. It's so cute.
  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    powerbats said:

    Because the Hatch is a manifestation of the Entity, thus it ignores the RBT timer since the Entity knows that survivor is coming back again anyways.

    I thought the hatch was made by whoever made the generators? Which is why it was tied to it.
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  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    I ######### Love Amanda mains. We need to plan a Six Flags Trip.
    Amanda Mains only.

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320
    edited November 2018

    @PigNRun said:

    @TheBean said:

    @ReneAensland said:
    The Timer is still going, so I don't understand.
    When they escape, does it still set it off? How do they take it off?

    wut

    When they jump through, they dematerialize... The RBT is tied to The PIG... Both go onto the next trial.

    It all happens within a split second.. but The PIG and RBT dematerializes first before the timer can't go off.

    That makes no sense. Trap would go off before you jumped into the hatch. Same way traps go off when you attempt to leave through the exit gates with one of them on you.

    What we see here is a balance reason. They wanted to leave an alternative to the exit gate escape after removing the trap. I still think, considering Amanda-chan's current state, using the hatch should kill the Survivor as well.

    You see...

    The survivor's feet enter the hatch first which triggers the end events....

    As your foot enters... The Pig begins to dematerialize to start the next trial....

    As she dematerializes... Her belongings also dematerialize.

    So as your body is going through the hatch, the RBT dematerializes and is gone before it hits the trigger line for the hatch.

    Thus survivor makes it out free and clear...

    If you went out head first then... what you said would make sense.

    +1

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,297

    Nothing in the game makes sense from being hit with a chainsaw and being able to recover from an 8ft tall person trying to kill you walking around and never running, its a game it doesnt have to make sense it just has to be enjoyable.

    The hatch is not the same as the exit gates it is treated as a seperate way of escaping and does not adhere to the same rules, nothing should stop you escaping via the hatch apart from the actual killer themselves.

  • Tizzle
    Tizzle Member Posts: 696

    Trap going off when the Survivor enters the hatch is the same as their test of the Killer closing the hatch.

    It's completely one sided with zero counter play.

  • michaelmyers87
    michaelmyers87 Member Posts: 458
    Tizzle said:

    Trap going off when the Survivor enters the hatch is the same as their test of the Killer closing the hatch.

    It's completely one sided with zero counter play.

    Zero counter play??? How about they go take the trap off their head lol
  • Incurable_BOFA
    Incurable_BOFA Member Posts: 105
    edited November 2018

    @michaelmyers87 said:
    Tizzle said:

    Trap going off when the Survivor enters the hatch is the same as their test of the Killer closing the hatch.

    It's completely one sided with zero counter play.

    Zero counter play??? How about they go take the trap off their head lol

    Thats pretty much a definite death because all the killer has to do is lurk around the boxes until the survivor either eventually goes for it or has their head pop.

    They could always change it so that if the hatch is open and theres one person left then the next box they go for is 100% guaranteed to remove the trap but attempting to use the hatch with a trap on your head will kill you, identical to how the exit gate works. This could allow the pig more time to search the desperate survivor and also give the survivor a similar chance in that if they are quick enough they can get the trap off and look for the hatch.

  • The_Daydreamer
    The_Daydreamer Member Posts: 745

    If the timer is going and he is the last survivor, just sit on the hatch and he will die. You bodyblock the hatch and he can just look for the key.

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167
    Why so resistant to go the extra step? Isn't the the challenge and risk what makes the game enjoyable? With a trap on head; you either screwed up or the killer out played you. Why should the most tense moment of the match be easy? I got no issue with getting hatch, but nulling a killers chance because it makes escape more challenging seems ridiculous.