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Key Bug is Making the Game Completely Unfair

Why is this bug not been fixed yet? This is worse than the pallet bug to me. At least you can still get saved from hook. Keys you can’t do Jack about. I’ve had game after game of survivors finding keys in matches and leaving. No joke. They don’t bring them in just find it in the chests. Franklins doesn’t help cause they will just go and get it later. Just be nice to be given free wins like this for survivors. I would say disable keys till the bug is fixed, which knowing the devs will take another couple of months.

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  • Jane_Is_Mega_Thicc
    Jane_Is_Mega_Thicc Member Posts: 137

    Bring Franklins if your worried about keys, if they can’t find it then there key goes bye bye.

  • Dragonshensi
    Dragonshensi Member Posts: 1,516

    Did you not read it? I knock it out of their hand and they just pick it up later.

  • Dragonshensi
    Dragonshensi Member Posts: 1,516

    With keys spawning in almost every match if the survivors know what they are doing they can all escape just like that. Happened to me twice where 3 survivors all took hatch and just left

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,332

    Well, it'd make sense. It's not like Hex: Ruin where a crapton of killers ran it so there was plenty of data. Not nearly as many survivors bring in keys, and when they do bring in keys killers usually play aggressively against that survivor to prevent the key from being used. To get actionable data on how keys affect games when they're actually used to escape, the devs would need keys killers can't counter from the get-go: in other words, keys from chests.

    If this were made public knowledge, it'd ruin the data as killers would expect keys, and one of the complaints about keys is not being able to counter them in the average match.

  • miketheratguy
    miketheratguy Member Posts: 2,719

    If it makes you feel any better I only had one key in my character's possession and it was removed from my inventory when the game went back to the lobby because of some "connection error".

    Doesn't quite seem right that items equipped in preparation for a match should be treated as if they were consumed if the match doesn't happen, but here we are.

  • BangBang
    BangBang Member Posts: 154

    I tested yesterday in custom game.

    20 chests opened, 5 keys found without plunderer.

    Completely bugged.

  • Jasix
    Jasix Member Posts: 1,245

    I know there is a bug, but in the past week as killer I have only seen 2 keys used in approximately 30-32 matches.

    As survivor I have played approx 25 matches and have only seen hatch used once and that was due to everyone else already exited the match.

    These were all red rank matches - doubt that matters much. Like most things that survivor/killer mains complain about - it tends to be a bit hyperbolic.

  • Lord_Tony
    Lord_Tony Member Posts: 2,109

    I hate keys so much you can't even stop them from using it either there is no hatch opening animation

  • RenTheCat
    RenTheCat Member Posts: 212

    Such as? Haven't heard of any bug that gave the Killer an easy win. Where do you find this bug that instakills all survivors so you get a 4k with no effort required?

    Amazing that a survivor's bug gives him a purple key whenever they open a chest so they can just leave through hatch without finishing objectives (ah but not before making noise so the killer knows where the hatch is so they can teabag a little before leaving) but killer bugs are what? Trapper hiding his traps under stairs or something?

  • RenTheCat
    RenTheCat Member Posts: 212

    Not because it doesn't happen to you it means it's not a problem for others. When I play survivor I never get facecamped or tunneled or anything like that yet I don't go around telling others they are exaggerating or outright lying when they whine about how they lost one match because they suck and wanna blame the killer for it.

  • Dragonshensi
    Dragonshensi Member Posts: 1,516

    Well then you got lucky. I keep getting people finding keys in chests and just leaving. It’s happened at least 5 times now. That may not sound like a lot but it kinda is. At least for one person in just two days.

  • Dragonshensi
    Dragonshensi Member Posts: 1,516

    I had a match recently as a survivor. Just started, went to the first chest beside me and opened and got a red key. I laughed and took it but didn’t use it. I now have a ton of keys in my inventory from just finding them in chests these past few days. It’s hilarious

  • Hex_Llama
    Hex_Llama Member Posts: 1,828

    Has this been officially acknowledged as a bug? I ask because I feel like keys have always been pretty abundant. Last time there was a hatch challenge in the rift, I literally loaded into matches empty-handed and planned to get a key from the chests, because it seemed so likely one would show up.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789
    edited April 2021

    Are you really not noticing yourself not getting stunned when you should be as killer? LMAO. I've been literally trying to let survivors stun me to test how consistent it is and 90% of the time it won't work.


    Also let's not pretend the patch with the Clown buffs didn't break the game for survivors, too.


    Out of interest, how many keys have you seen in your games that weren't brought in? In my last 30 or so killer games I've seen them...three times? One time with Plunderers on a survivor. And only once did it involve more than one survivor escaping. They were a SWF, though.


    There is also the breakdown bug that breaks the game for killers, too. I had to bleed out a Nea that was abusing it before and lost a killer game (1 K but everyone else 2 hook) entirely to it's use meaning two different hooks that I used at the beginning of the game, before a gen was done, never respawned. I find this much more gamebreaking than keys seemingly appearing a bit more.

    An honourable mention for an horrific bug is the one that allows survivors to phase through killers in order to pallet slam them when they pick up a downed survivor by pointing as they begin the pickup animation, removing counterplay for the killer in order to avoid the save. Had that in combination with breakdown sabo squads a few times today, as well.

    I have, however, been finding a lot more purple flashlights. I'd say it's just me actually being lucky for once because normally i just find brown toolboxes and broken keys as survivor.

  • Trickstaaaaa
    Trickstaaaaa Member Posts: 1,267

    Is this really a bug?

    We don't know if it's truly a bug, maybe they just increased the spawn rate for keys.

  • Dragonshensi
    Dragonshensi Member Posts: 1,516
  • Dragonshensi
    Dragonshensi Member Posts: 1,516

    it has to be. Even when I play survivor it’s always highly likely I will get a key. Heck, I have a huge inventory of the things just from playing recently.

  • Trickstaaaaa
    Trickstaaaaa Member Posts: 1,267

    we don't know truly till they confirm it. It could be them just increasing the spawn rate. Yeah I get you, it's annoying to have a massive increase in people escaping threw hatch. It's massively increased when I have been playing killer lately.

  • RenTheCat
    RenTheCat Member Posts: 212
    edited April 2021

    Still waiting for the bug that let's killers get a 4k so we win. Can't believe you thought not getting stunned by a pallet as an equivalent to being offered a way to make the opponent IMMEDIATLY LOSE with no way to counter it.

    Post edited by Gay Myers (Luzi) on
  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789
    edited April 2021

    Pallet stun bugs happening consistently hands killers wins they shouldn't get because it saves them a ton of time. This bug has been in the game for weeks. If you don't see how this is such a big problem, then you have literally no idea how the game works.

    When the Clown rework came out, there was literally a bug in the game that caused the killer to desynchronise from the server and gave them free hits on survivors that were unpredictable and it took over a month to be fixed.

    Hit validation doesn't function, and console killers get handed free wins for using wifi. Similar, but lesser, effect to killers that VPN to places they have 400 ping to.


    I also stated a number of bugs that is survivors abuse them make the game equally frustrating and unplayable for the killer if they make sure to go down in a specific area every time, for example. These are much more high priority than fixing a nonexistent bug with keys.


    You claim whataboutism, but that isn't what it is: I'm saying it literally isn't a problem, because it's not really happening. It's about individual perception. You lose a game because of a key and you focus/dwell on it, and because of that you perceive it as happening more, because it frustrated you.

    Post edited by Gay Myers (Luzi) on
  • Dragonshensi
    Dragonshensi Member Posts: 1,516
  • RenTheCat
    RenTheCat Member Posts: 212
    edited April 2021

    So no, there is no bug that gives Killers a free win like how finding a key in a chest is GG for the killer immediatly with no way to counter it?

    A killer not being stunned because you didn't wait for him to completly pick up the survivor before throwing the pallet is the end of the world. It isn't, and it doesn't hand the killer a 4k.

    Post edited by Gay Myers (Luzi) on
  • Mercês
    Mercês Member Posts: 376

    Good survivors will search a chest and then swap chest's content with the key. What can you do about it now?

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789
    edited April 2021

    Except if it is happening consistently and allowing them to hit through the pallet too, it is a free win.


    You didn't understand what I said there. I was arguing the killer's side with regard to the pallet save...I was making a point that there are plenty of bugs that ######### over both sides and make it frustrating, but a few games out of 30+ is not an incredible problem.

    Far more games have survivors bring keys into the game beforehand. That is a problem tit makes sense to complain about, because it does actually happen a fair amount.

    Again, I'm not talking about pallet saves. I'm talking about literal mid-chase pallet use. Where recent map design is such that if a survivor doesn't get the stun, they have to take a hit, it breaks the flow of the game completely to have a bug that prevents stuns from working, often giving a killer a win they didn't really earn. It's favoured me, too. And no doubt it's favoured everyone here complaining about some supposed resurgence in the chances of finding a key aplenty, as well.


    Please actually read what is being said rather than finding a way to strawman me. It's unbecoming.

  • RenTheCat
    RenTheCat Member Posts: 212

    Why do you keep writing and writing. I asked you if there is a bug that gave killers a free win like how finding a key does for Survivors. You keep bringing pallet stuns. If a killer was so close to you that he was able to hit you BEFORE you threw the pallet (and if you think you threw it before he hit you you probably had a big of lag) then

    1. That was your fault
    2. The killer won't win because he got a hit on you

    It's as simple as that, the pallet not stunning the killer DOESN'T GIVE HIM A WIN, just a hit, it just gives points, same as how bullshit flashlight angles still can blind the killer to the point picking someone while facing a wall is pointless.

    There still isn't a single bug that gave killers a 4k to win the game, meanwhile there is a bug right now that gives survivors a free win without even having to work for it.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789
    edited April 2021

    You have literally no idea how this game works and it shows.

    I've seen what you do all over the forum, you go into personal attacks and rage at people while strawmanning the hell out of them. These discussions inevitably get closed in part due to your own involvement.

    Again: There is no bug giving survivors a free win by finding keys more often. I have already explained why you perceive it this way, but you chose to ignore it.

    You know exactly what the problem is, but you deny it because you feel entitled to your free wins. No one, on either side, is entitled to a free win. That is boring and unhealthy for the game. Have a good night.

  • redsopine00
    redsopine00 Member Posts: 905

    So it’s a 1 in 4 game odds of a key that’s not a bug that seems more a preset code of amount

  • VaJaybles
    VaJaybles Member Posts: 659

    Idk that you know what a free win is....


    Now granted this is a bug and a doodoo one at that. But to call it free? Eh maybe, but your argument "free win without even having to work for it"

    I guess if the one survivor finds a key and then hides while all other survivors die then yeah free win.

    If there's 4 survivors they still have to do 5 gens and we'll that's pretty much game unless you can snowball. Also depends on what you as a killer considers a win.

  • jokere98
    jokere98 Member Posts: 595

    i'm playing, like, 8-10 games everyday, and in 3-4, sometimes even 5-6 of them survivors found a key without plunderer

  • Dragonshensi
    Dragonshensi Member Posts: 1,516

    I’m just having to constantly run Franklins. It helps a bit but not much.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    The amount of times I've watched survivors die for their items is kinda hilarious.

  • BangBang
    BangBang Member Posts: 154

    I don't think so.

    I'm not counting the green broken one, all keys I got from chests were purple and rainbow.

    Rest of the items were mostly purple and green as well, I only got 1 or 2 brown and yellow ones.

  • Ghost077
    Ghost077 Member Posts: 713

    I'm done with killer games until this sh*t gets fixed. I just don't want to play with such unfair chances of winning.

    Dear devs, could you tell us when this will be fixed?

    @MandyTalk

    Can you tell us? I just don't know who to contact for this.

  • notstarboard
    notstarboard Member Posts: 3,903

    There's a 0.88% chance of this happening. You're going to need a lot more data before you call this a bug.

  • notstarboard
    notstarboard Member Posts: 3,903

    What bug?

  • notstarboard
    notstarboard Member Posts: 3,903

    Keys have counters, and even a survivor using a key does not make the killer immediately lose. Keys often play no role in the outcome, or change a 3k to a 2k and such. Cases where you have three survivors escape with a key after three-genning themselves, or something, are rare.

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  • SentinelCaptain
    SentinelCaptain Member Posts: 234

    I've been running PI recently and have been finding a key about every 2nd or 3rd match depending on how many of the chests I get to. I have had 2 matches where I found both a Dull and Skeleton key in the same match.

  • BangBang
    BangBang Member Posts: 154

    So I ended up to investigate further and concluded this is definitely bugged.

    You can check my ticket.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/244629/rarity-of-chest-is-bugged#latest

    10 keys out of 30 chests without Plunderer. Keys are supposed to have only 7%, but in my test 1/3 of the items were keys.

  • notstarboard
    notstarboard Member Posts: 3,903

    Yeahhhh that's down to a .0020% chance... Maybe they did mess up the rarity somehow.

  • csandman1977
    csandman1977 Member Posts: 2,358

    Conspiracy Theory. They are leaving the key bug in to bring the kill rate of killers down so they can justify buffing them.






    Yeah no. Can't even write that seriously!

  • SpaghettiYOLO
    SpaghettiYOLO Member Posts: 234

    You're damn lucky then. I see a key nearly every match. People are bringing them as well. I use Franklin's, entity takes it, they brought coins so they easily find MULTIPLE. I had up to three in one match found by survivors. And don't get me started on the gen rushing this has inspired. It's really highlighted the fact that there are too many perks that increase repair progression on top of BNPs and SWF comms. I was a rank 1. Between adepting Trickster and now all this nonsense, I'm in purple ranks seeing nothing but shiny coins and hatch blueprints.