DbD is full of cowards.

Vietfox said:

6 out of 10 killers, at least, DC against 2 swf. (lately)

@Vietfox not saying 50% of them always dc, but this what the past few days have been like for me.

@Tzeentchling9 said:
Meanwhile, 70% of Survivors have to use Cheat With Friends.

That number doesn't even matter when most of that 70% are really ######### bad players.

Vietfox said:

Nickenzie said:

Vietfox said:

6 out of 10 killers, at least, DC against 2 swf. (lately)

I rarely DC as killer. If I'm on a map and I can count my FPS on two hands then I'm gonna DC because there's no point to play a poorly optimized map in my opinion. Hopefully the developers will give us that juicy console optimization patch in December!

Oh i'm looking forward for that optimization.
PS: About time u got bars

well then... welcome to dead by daylight

Insulting, or at least making fun of people who dodge swf players as killers won't help you in any way however. If they don't want to play against swf survivors, that's up to them. It's up to BHVR then to balance this game better so there's no big gap between solo and swf survivors more and killers are balanced better for all groups of survivors.

Vietfox said:

Nickenzie said:

Vietfox said:

Nickenzie said:

Vietfox said:

Nickenzie said:

Vietfox said:

6 out of 10 killers, at least, DC against 2 swf. (lately)

I rarely DC as killer. If I'm on a map and I can count my FPS on two hands then I'm gonna DC because there's no point to play a poorly optimized map in my opinion. Hopefully the developers will give us that juicy console optimization patch in December!

Oh i'm looking forward for that optimization.
PS: About time u got bars

@Vietfox

I'm gonna put the off topic stuff in the spoiler so I don't derail this thread.

The bars are unjustified, check my profile wall and the users' profile wall who commented on my wall because I'm not gonna derail this thread going over something stupid on the new mods part.

On the actual subject, the optimization patch will be great. It will make my nurse even more viable since 360s are less effective on me.

I was just kidding @Nickenzie
You should get that i'm joking 99'99% of the time.
I don't mind if u derail the main topic.

Phew, I'll remember for next time then because it sucks to have people seeing me here lol.


Now back to the topic at hand, do you have ideas on how DC's should be punished? I have some ideas on how they should go with this!

5 minutes/10 minutes/15 minutes/30 minutes/1 hour/ 24 hours/ etc...

This would be a lower queue where you aren't prioritized unlike no DC'ers but you can still get games, it will just be unlikely that you'll get one. If you're a killer, you won't get many survivors in your lobby since you're not prioritized.

Survivors dcing sucks for the killer because they get less bps, but sucks more for survivors. I think dcing should be punished the same way Rocket League does, the more times u DC the longer u are not allowed to play.

@Vietfox said:
ad19970 said:

Insulting, or at least making fun of people who dodge swf players as killers won't help you in any way however. If they don't want to play against swf survivors, that's up to them. It's up to BHVR then to balance this game better so there's no big gap between solo and swf survivors more and killers are balanced better for all groups of survivors.

@ad19970
Where are you when killer mains complain about survivors DCing?

I thought we were talking about lobby dodging. Who would realise afterwards that people are playing swf and then dc? If killers dc it's because of them getting frustrated with something. Obviously the reasons for that frustration can be very different.
Until a certain point I dc'd as a killer myself as well, only very rarely however, when I got frustrated with multiple matches in a row because of toxic survivors, and just not having any fun. Obviously I was just not good enough to deal with those survivor teams, but that's a problem caused by the ranking system in the game. However that combined with toxic survivor players in the after chat are what got me to dc at times. I stopped with that though. Dcing is obviously nothing anybody should do. But that's not directly swf but more killer not being good enough or getting frustrated, or in some cases just getting a total rage fit. Which can happen even against non swf survivors. The ranking system is part of that problem. I agree with you on dcing, though. I was just talking about lobby dodging.
Also, why do only killer mains complain about survivors dcing? When I play survivor I find it just as frustrating when some survivor in my team just dc's.

It's not cowardice to prevent a game you know is not going to be fun. Games are meant to be pleasant, that's why people play them.

@Vietfox said:
Boss said:

It's already hard for me to believe stats from devs who even showed a chart.

Believing you, not a dev, without a chart? Nah.

Have some faith @Boss

I had faith that the devs would hide the Killer's equipment on the scoreboard during the match.
Needless to say, i don't do faith anymore.

@Vietfox said:
As long as that makes u feel better. I personally don't need to dodge swf to have fun

Some people don't like playing the clown to a bunch of bullies. I don't blame them for dodging.

Tfw you give someone ######### for playing games for fun

I see it as pretty cowardly to play in SWF. It makes the game easier for those survivors, to the point of virtually game breaking, and often hurts the killer.

Like you aren't coordinating at all? Sure. And I'm the Entity.

The game isn't balanced for coordinated survivors.

You can act like you aren't doing much but against a threat, I'd wager you'll start sharing more and more info, and playing harder and harder using comms to your advantage going well beyond the solo survivor's abilities.

It also allows for extremely bad match making.

And don't forget to rag on the survivor side of things. They DC plenty, too. They have the option to back out of bad ping games at the least.

@Vietfox said:
Rebel_Raven said:

I see it as pretty cowardly to play in SWF. It makes the game easier for those survivors, to the point of virtually game breaking, and often hurts the killer.

Like you aren't coordinating at all? Sure. And I'm the Entity.

The game isn't balanced for coordinated survivors.

You can act like you aren't doing much but against a threat, I'd wager you'll start sharing more and more info, and playing harder and harder using comms to your advantage going well beyond the solo survivor's abilities.

It also allows for extremely bad match making.

And don't forget to rag on the survivor side of things. They DC plenty, too. They have the option to back out of bad ping games at the least.

@Rebel_Raven
Is it easier with SWF? Yes
BUT you fail to realize that most swfs play with friends just because they like to play with their friends, not because they are sweaty ********.
We are NOT the depip squad.

This and several times when I've swf'd one or 2 people are on their cellphones talking to their gf and so can't tak anyways. There's other times I'm playing and can't talk due to people sleeping so there's no real advantage in quite a few of those games.

For most of my swf games it's with 1 or 2 and sometimes 3 to teach newbies the ropes and hopefully let them earn some bp. The other games we screw around quite a bit and joke about mistakes on both sides and we always say gg afterwards unless it's a camper at 5 gens etc.

This whole 4 mans swf swat team excuse is just that an excuse for every game where the killer gets outplayed or when there's even a 2 man swf. In over 1500 hours of playtime on both sides I've never seen more than 100 total groups of highly coordinated swf groups.

But I've seen hundreds of solo q games where the solo q's look like a 4 man depip squad, quite a few of those I was a survivor and we just all knew what to do. We knew when to rescue and when not to, when to do gens and when not to etc.

After quite a large amount of them the killer would get salty and say swf trash etc, all because they got their butt handed to them. It was a convenient excuse just like here on the forums, it wasn't because they weren't very good or that they made way too many mistakes it was swf.

Do you think Monto or Marth or any of the other top tier players got as good as they are by whining about swf and using that as an excuse not to get better?