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Killer adept without 4 kills and less than 12 hooks?

monster89
monster89 Member Posts: 148

Clearly I'm not sure how to get the adepts. So can someone explain it to me.

Anyway so I was trying to get my adept for Myers. I got 11/12 hooks and got 3 kills and to my surprise I got the adept. I've seen many posts of people complaining how they get 4 kills and 12 hooks and still don't get the adept. That too has happened to me. I've read u need the merciless killer but how do you achieve that?

So basically I hooked 2 people 3 times. 1 person twice (they escaped by opening the door) and 1 disconnected before they got hooked once ( if someone disconnect I belive it gives u credit for 3 hooks right?)

I always thought u needed 12 hooks and 4 kills for the merciless adept

Did the disconnect somehow help me? They didn't complete all gens they had 1 left. One escaped through the door because hatch and the doors were opposite sides from the map.

I have to mention that myers adept has play with ur food and save the best for last. So chases were very short. Did that boost my points? The fact that I had chases so short cuz I had plenty of stacks for both perks?

Can someone explain what u need to get the killer adepts.


Comments

  • SunaIIanu
    SunaIIanu Member Posts: 826
    edited May 2021

    As far as I know you get the adept when you douple pip, not when you get a certain number of hooks. You double piped so you got the achievement.

    But at red ranks you need more kills and hooks to douple pip, that's why peoplw complain, atleast to my knowledge.

  • Laluzi
    Laluzi Member Posts: 6,226

    At purple and green ranks, you can get a gold emblem and still get an adept. At yellow and grey ranks, you can get two gold emblems (or one silver) and still get an adept, allowing even more room for mistakes.

    At reds, you need perfect emblems across the board, meaning you must get all four kills, have the 10 points for 9+ hook actions, etc. Looks like you did well enough in everything else to give you the achievement. Which is well done - Myers tends to get bad chaser emblems if he uses his power too much.

    The DC will help you when the game remembers to count it - it'll count for a kill and give you some Chaser points. It screws you out of the unnecessarily necessary hook actions category if the person DCs before you ever hooked them, but that doesn't matter if someone escapes anyway.

  • monster89
    monster89 Member Posts: 148

    Aww wow didn't think about rank being a factor. To be fair I don't play much killer so I'm always at purple ranks. And I've gotten 12 hooks and 4 kills and still didn't get the adept. I feel like Myers perks play with ur food and save best for last helped me ends chases very quickly which prob helped a lot. I know the shorter the chases the more points

  • monster89
    monster89 Member Posts: 148

    So far I only have 5 killer adepts. I've always had to get 12 hooks and 4 kills. That's why this one surprised me. Did all adepts at purple ranks

  • Laluzi
    Laluzi Member Posts: 6,226
    edited May 2021

    I think for emblems, it just cares about number of successful chases - so length doesn't matter and instadowns punish you because they only count as one chase instead of two. Shorter chases give bloodpoint rewards, not emblem ones. (Gatekeeper rewards you the most when the first few gens take a while to get done, with a certain number of points per second depending on how many gens are left, and also gives you 28 points if you close the hatch. Devout is obviously tied to hooks, and you'll pretty much always get iri Malicious if you have 4 kills, because it gives so many points for hook states.) But congratulations - Myers has a great set of perks that synergize really well with each other, but it's hard to play him well without any slowdown, and you didn't even bring strong addons. So nice job!

    The rank factor's just bogus and doesn't feel well thought out at all. The game shouldn't punish you for being higher rank. As it is, I try for some adepts after every rank reset not because the players are easier, but because mechanically it's the easiest time for me to pull it off.

    I have 9 adepts so far. They've all been pretty long games. You don't need 12 hooks - you need at least 9 to ensure you get iri devout, and more downs = more Chaser points, but a few hook stages can be skipped. And you can get them if someone escapes, I did that with Huntress, but it's best not to in case you didn't satisfy the other requirements, since it's kind of hard to tell whether the game will be happy with your Chaser and Malicious ahead of time.

  • monster89
    monster89 Member Posts: 148

    Yeah thanks it was my first try I wasn't really gona try hard but it also helps when the team ur facing were not as experinced. Also it was myers and I downed onky 2 people with his power. So the fact that u said insta downs doesn't help then idk how the heck I got this adept.

  • HollowsGrief
    HollowsGrief Member Posts: 1,497

    At red ranks it is not possible to get adept without a 4k.

  • HealsBadMan
    HealsBadMan Member Posts: 1,122

    You need to double pip to get Merciless. At Red Ranks you need 4 Iri. Emblems, meaning a 4k and near perfect gameplay. Since you were at Purple when you got the Adept, one Gold and 4 Iri. Emblems is enough.

    For Red ranks you need a 4k, at least 8 hooks (hooking everyone at least once), pretty good gen protection and lots of quick chases with lots of hits.