Can we ban players that give up?

They can get a matchmaking ban penalty for 3 or more depending on how they quit every time in game, and it will cost to you getting depipped three pips depending on rank you are.

I give up, sometimes. But its never about the killer, its usually about teammates. When people go out of their way to make life hard for their team, screw them.

It's always about the teammates.

If I am the first to get hooked and my teammates are all off doing random stuff and the killer isn't camping me, and I go to 2nd hook, then yeah, I've been frustrated enough to just let myelf die. Not grabbing a teammate because you really had to finish that gen is just not cool. Accidents happen but sometimes I think the team just doesn't care. .

This. When I'm playing with other rank 1-3 survivors and they make the dumbest choices imaginable throughout the entire match, I willingly give myself to the killer so I can move on.

Trust that we're having as little fun as you are.

Just because you're teammates are bad doesn't give you the right to abandon them. Every other only multiplayer game that is team based will actually ban you for days, weeks or even permanently if you continuously do that. And i'm talking about games that are JUST as harsh, where one bad teammate will lose you the entire game:

CS:GO

DotA 2

LoL

Rainbow 6

Exactly.

So you decide to waste their time just to be petty. How brave of you.

I'm gonna be honest, while I'm against griefing/acting in ways specifically to annoy other players in nearly every other circumstance, suiciding on hook is a cheap attempt to bypass the DC penalty for quitting a game. I see no problem in punishing players for doing it, because they're already screwing over everyone else on their team; it's not an unprovoked action. If the community wants to discourage selfish plays, great. It's not that different in my eyes than when a killer is chasing two people, the person in front drops a pallet that traps the person behind, and the killer chooses to ignore the closer player to get the sandbagger. It's vigilante justice aiming to discourage the behavior.

If the player wants to die because they have to get off the computer and do something, it doesn't matter whether they're slugged or killed ASAP. If the player wants to die so they can fish out a match against a killer they like better, they get a pseudo MM penalty to replace the one they're trying to evade.

It depends on the timing. If somebody runs up to me at the start of the game and points at a hook, they're just trying to get out of the game. I'll oblige them in case something RL came up, but take it easy on everyone else for the rest of the game. If it happens in the middle of the game, then there's a greater chance for them to have a gameplay reason to exit the game beyond "I don't like this killer" - and that's if I haven't observed strange/facepalm-worthy behavior from their teammates, since I've already scoped out the match a bit by this point. And if it's at the end, it's usually a surrender or a pity/thank-you kill. No, I don't know, but I can make decent inferences.

That said, there are a lot of people who will rage-suicide if one bad thing happens at the start of the match (like a teammate cleanses HG and they get instadowned for it, or Myers traps someone in a corner and 99s EW3), and I don't support that either. Suiciding because your teammates are all urban evading potatoes is just saving yourself an agonizing few minutes, but you've gotta confirm that they are in fact useless and didn't just get caught off guard/out of position, or you're just as bad of a teammate as they are.

In both survivor and killer games, most hook suicides I see are either "don't bother rescuing me"/"go get the hatch" type suicides, or so early on that it's difficult to imagine them as anything other than rage against a bad chase or a desire to play against a different killer.

You can blame the devs for some of this with the challenges that are in the tome. I'm not sure what all the challenges are right now, but I know in the past, I have loaded into many games where all three of my teammates never even start to play because they're trying to do a challenge. It's actually why I quit playing the game. I just came back two days ago after about nine months away to see if the game was any better. Spoiler alert, it's not. Oh and rank doesn't mean anything. Usually the worst teammates I have are in red and purple ranks. People think getting an escape is a win, even when they have 10k bp total and I die on my first hook with more than twice that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Then I don't think we're disagreeing on anything. Teammates that aren't even trying to do anything and are just waiting in the corner of the map for everyone to die are a totally valid reason to bail a game. Odds are you're going to die on hook anyway. I just didn't quite know what you meant by useless - in the past, I've seen people use the excuse that their teammates went down too quickly in a chase for the game to be winnable, or suicide because somebody (likely accidentally) brought the killer to their gen and they went down for that.

I certainly would not slug a player asking me to kill them in a game where I can't find anyone doing gens.

How do you measure what a hook suicide is? Is it because they were left until second stage and then didn’t want to hit the skill checks? Is it because they were frustrated? There’s not an easy way to tell what constitutes a hook suicide.