idea for Buff The Plague

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smart212
smart212 Member Posts: 136
edited May 2021 in Feedback and Suggestions

OMG this killer is so weak.


  1. Speed will slow down when she vomit
  2. She needs going to edge of the map to get his power corrupt
  3. Survivor will heal easily when clean in the fountain.


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  • jakesotto
    jakesotto Member Posts: 201
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    Otz doesn't speak for every person, his accomplishments don't represent the overall performance of something.


    The stats the devs released a while ago showed plague had a low kill and pick rate, so something about her should probably be adjusted. Generally I think shes very balanced but there are a lot of offputting things about her.


    The fact that survivors control her power without any downside is a bit rough. Some of her add ons for her corrupt purge should probably be basekit to punish survivors for cleansing.

  • Laluzi
    Laluzi Member Posts: 5,553
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    Yeah, you're obviously not playing to her strengths.

    1.) Charge only when you know you're about to have clear LOS on the survivor in a second, like as you're prepping to turn a corner. Don't hold the vomit at full charge; there is no value in chasing someone with a full charge, they're just going to get further out of position. Spray in streams with VP and wide arcs with CP.

    2.) Let them cleanse in those badly located fountains and don't drink from them. Now they can only cleanse in better locations.

    3.) They get a heal, you get 60s of machine gun hatchets that will take way more than one health state out of their team if used well, which you can activate at a time of your choosing. Don't let already-injured survivors get infected so they can get a free heal unless you specifically want fountains and don't care about losing pressure elsewhere.

    Infect lots of players when you have no fountains and avoid infecting players when you're at 4-5 fountains - that's when you want to drink up and wreak havoc. Always make sure you know where someone is before taking a fountain. CP is especially cruel at unhook situations because it can't be bodyblocked; it shoots through both survivors.

  • ShinobuSK
    ShinobuSK Member Posts: 5,279
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    I love this game. Noone even knows about Plague for years and do not care but once she is put into archives, suddenly forums are filled with expert plague mains who want her buffed or nerfed, depends how good or badly they did with her in those 2 matches they played for challenges, before they went back to their normal main again

    She isnt too strong or too weak, she is hard to master, got a different playstyle and it fun or boring depends how you like to play.

    Some tweaks may be good, but at this time I dont think she needs anything changed

  • jakesotto
    jakesotto Member Posts: 201
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    Everyone knows why nurse has a low kill rate, it isnt a surprise that people try to learn her and dont get any kills because of how hard she is. Also theres no point mentioning nurse and freddys performance on a post about plague. Plague isn't on the same level as nurse in terms of difficulty to learn. I think shes missing a lot of quality of life features that are offputting for people to play her.

  • jakesotto
    jakesotto Member Posts: 201
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    I never said plague is bad lol I said she has a low kill and pick rate, which she does. I never played against a plague in red ranks until this month is probably over a year. Her gameplay is clunky and the devs gave the survivors wayyyy too much control of her power.

    If you want to use otz as an example of using her, also use the fact that otz said it was one of the most difficult and frustrating streaks to do. Plague is underperforming, it's a given fact.

  • madradfox
    madradfox Member Posts: 190
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    Speed will slow down when she vomit

    First of all, it only slows down to 110%, which is the base movement speed of many killers.

    However, what you seem to be ignoring is that bringing the "Worship Tablet" not only speeds up activation at pools, but also gives her a speed boost to 117% while vomitting with Corrupted Purge. Combine that with the Rubbing Oil addon , which works for both Vile and Corrupt Purges and her speed nerf only occurs over 0.75s for Vile, at the end of which her power meter will be full. Actually forget about Vile purge for a sec, do you have any idea what this does to Corrupted Purge when used by competent Plague players? It allows them to fire a corrupted stream covering the entire duration of invulnerability frames from Dead Hard.


    She needs going to edge of the map to get his power corrupt

    No she doesn't. She simply needs to go to where the corrupted pool happens to be, and there is nothing that makes pools only spawn near edges of maps. In fact, good Plagues will understand that infecting as many important objects/survivors pallets etc. in the vicinity may have a much higher EV in the long run.

    Not to mention that, two of her best add-ons happen to be the Ashen Apple and the Blessed Apple, each allowing her to now start the match with one extra already corrupted fountain (on top of her default 1), and the Ashen Apple also adds increased duration of infections from corrupted object interactions.


    Survivor will heal easily when clean in the fountain.

    This tactic is akin to always healing against Legion, hiding in Lockers against the Huntress, using W against the Nurse, and - my absolute favorite - looping Myers thinking you're buying your teammates time. All of these moves are exactly what these killers want.

    The healing you get from these fountains is nothing but a trick. Yes, you will be healthy and clean but for how long, as touching a corrputed gen or corrupted hook during rescue will simply restart the timer. From then on , as long as you are running or interacting with objects you will reach the vomitting stage after 50s and injured after 100s.

    Assuming it takes you about 20 seconds total to get to your fountain and then to nearby gen to work on, and then another 80s to fully repair it, the total cost of that gen repair was: 100 seconds , new Corrupted fountain and one less fountain available for future cleansing , and you already in the vomitting stage, and likely only seconds away from being affected with Broken. Not to mention that you just announced your location to the killer by popping that gen, who may now be approaching equipped with the same exact corrupted purge you created for her.


    Cleansing after your second hook or very near endgame , or if an emergency calls for it are all appropriate. Never ever cleanse before working to fully repair a nearby generator. If you get pressured off it (and you most likely will because cleaning takes time), you never ever want to give the Plague the ultimate gift: a chance to both break and then re-infect it , and then collect that freshly-created corruption from the nearby fountain.