General Discussions
General Discussions
Why have pallets been buffed?
Why is nobody talking about this? Now i know why ballets bugged out.. they tried to shadow buff them and screwed it up like usual!
The way pallets use to work was the survivor would reach up and begin to pull the pallet down. The stun would not happen until the pallet had moved 20-30 degrees or so and the killer could hit a survivor at any point until then.
The stun is now instant. there is no delay like there use to be and it trumps anything the killer does. I have witnessed it both as survivor and killer. It almost looks like the animation has just been super sped up.
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Haven't seen this.
It's likely an affect of the recent pallet bug fix.
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I have noticed this as well, before when people go for a pallet save if you were quick you could get a M1 off on them even though the pallet still comes down on you however since they fixed the pallet stun bug I have noticed that is no longer the case. It is now impossible to react, the stun is active before you can even control your killer after picking someone up. Honestly this seems like a bad change to me, it use to be a timing a stealth thing, rewarding smart play for the survivors, now it's just free with no risk anymore.
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lol
i just played a few games as killer and haven't noticed any difference
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And what if the stun is instant ?
Isn't that how it's supposed to work? Or what am I missing here? Are hits supposed to go trough the pallet?
Do you have any idea how many BS hits happen trough pallets against high ping killers? Way, way too many.
Unbelievable. The killers were having the time of their life abusing the pallets for weeks and now after the fix and the slightest of buffs they're crying their hearts out?
Kindly bugger off....
Edit: I have gotten hits trough pallets when I was farming for the Gnome Charm. I think it has to do with ping.
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So i should be punished for having sub 20 ping?
Please justify how me having good internet and not using a vpn should be at a disadvantage to people who are.
FYI the bugged pallets never allowed me to get unfair hits either and worked just as they are now but with no stun.
the stun was moved to the half way point because instant stuns were too punishing on the killers and made pallets safe af.
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Hmm.. console player or ping 60+? just interesting to see why it is different for you.
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have not been in this situation since the update yet but it proves they changed it if you can't trade a hit for the pallet save any more.
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I just find it absolutely insolent after the killers have been abusing the pallet bug for weeks and now immediately after someone comes and complains & cries about pallets being too strong....
If this is a bug, then report it in the bug section and let the devs handle it.
By ping, I meant, that if u have high ping as survivor, you'll get hit trough pallets. Not the other way around...
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High ping survivors have an advantage mate. Anything 70+ will drag the killers camera into corners when they try to hit you because "aim dressing" glitches out and can't handle it.
As survivor with low ping i find myself being hit by nurse players before they even finish the blink on my screen and have been hit scanned by pp head, falling on the floor before ROJ even comes out of the sword.
Low ping sucks in this game.
Even with this i was able to run a killer around the entire map and got a pallet stun at every pallet that they didn't respect. This never happens to me.
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This has always been the case. If you are Killer and have good Ping, you dont have any advantage, in fact, you have a disadvantage compared to Killers with high Ping.
For me, Pallets behave like normal. I rarely got Hits through it before, unless the Survivor screwed up massively (up to a point where they did not drop the Pallet). But most of the time, I was not able to hit through Pallets, because I have 40 Ping at max. Meanwhile I still get hit by high-Ping Killers during Pallets, like it used to be.
So from my perspective, Pallets are like they have been before they were bugged. But I guess some Killers got too used to just ignoring Pallet Stuns, and calling it a shadow-buff now..
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Yes, you are supposed to be able to get hit through pallets if you time it wrong. That's how pallets are designed.
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I was still able to get a hit in here and there before the pallet bug if i lunged at the correct time. Now it is just a magical barrier. I have even been stunned by it mid lunge when a survivor didn't even run through and just dropped it on the same side as me.
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This is my experience too.
Could never normally hit survivors through pallets because I have a ping of 30 and my connection is very stable. Got lots of undeserved hits when pallets were bugged. Since the fix I no longer get undeserved hits, like before the bug. It seems absolutely no different to me.
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Pallet hits were always a thing, a latency thing to be precise.
Never even noticed difference before or after the change. Only thing that was bugged for me was that sometimes the stun didnt happen. And that was the only problem I had with it.
They fixed the pallet stuns now but it seems way sensitive and getting stuns while killer is like meter away from the pallet lol.
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As I said, for me, it feels like before. Before the Bug and now I can get a hit on rare occasions. Sometimes I wonder why I get stunned, because I think I am far away from the Pallet, but this was the case before the Bug as well.
Regarding Survivors dropping the Pallets on the same side like the Killer, this happened two times yesterday and both times I got a hit (but one time without getting stunned, so I guess, this one should not count, because I was too far away from the Pallet).
So for me, it looks like the pre-bug version. Sadly you always had the short stick when having good Ping (not that I want to get strange Hits, but I receive too many of them..).
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I average ~47 ping and it feels entirely the same as pre-bug. Shame dbd is the only online game ever to punish you for having a better connection than others but it is what it is.
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Because feng is a baddie 💅
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Pallets aren't meant to stun until they begin to fall in the animation.
Aka your vulnerable for the first .3-.5 seconds of the pallet throw animation.
Not a large window but its still there.
Also I have been noticing as survivor a lot of laggy hits this patch myself and laggy swings this patch as killer(aka I hit them then they teleport away onto the ground).
Including an invincible Adam rubber banding endlessly until the game DCed him.
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I have had a couple of survs teleport on the ground, weird.
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I've still got hit, and got hits, through pallet stuns, so no it's not instant, there's still a window where both can go through.
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I have not noticed this at all as killer and have gotten plenty of hits through pallets
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+1
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 we now know your ping isn't great.
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This changes every loop makeing some loops no longer possible to get hits
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at first I thought I was crazy because pallets been bugged for so long that I kinda forgot the range where they stun you. Now you may be right but idk at this point, they can’t fix anything in this game smh
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Abusing the pallet bug? Pallets are a core mechanic of the game. What were killers supposed to do? Not play the game? You can't just play killer and avoid interacting with pallets(unless you're Nurse). That statement is very unfair.
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What's your point?
One's knowing the bug is there.
One's knowing the bug is there and still swinging for the pallet knowing it will hit. Yes, this is an abuse.
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Im console and know exactly ######### your talking about.
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Starting really getting pissed off about it last night (been playing survivor lately).
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Got it, killers aren't allowed to complain. They just have to sit there and listen to YOU complain about an issues that's already fixed. Yup, they're the ones that are insolent in this situation.
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Not really. Any smart killer knows it's bad to respect pallets unless they know for sure the survivor is going to throw down the pallet. Any killer who didn't respect pallets before shouldn't have respected them then just because they became bugged.
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Killers complain the most on this forum.
I mean no offense....But... You kinda get tired of them. Survivors as well, but killers complaint mostly...
It is unbelievable to me that shortly after the pallet bug was fixed, we have killers complaining about pallets being too strong now... Next thing we know, they'll want to survivor's legs to get cut. I guarantee you some of them got way too used to the bug that allowed you to swing trough.
If this is a bug, then so be it. Make a bug report, not complain here.
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The stun isn't instant, I have had so many games still where I get hit through a pallet when im dropping it
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I guess I'm just imagining the two threads complaining about spirit, the thread complaining about camping and the thread complaining about the struggle bar that are all on the front page. Or the threads complaining about camping and tunneling that show up just about every single day.
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The forum is mainly killer biased.
You can get away with shaming survivors. But you'll get skinned alive if u dare to shame a killer as survivor. I've seen it myself multiple times.
So in the end, you're gonna give me a biased argument and ignore all the other killer posts that appear? DS, dead hard, remove exhaustion perks, KEYS, SWF?. Should I name more? Right now, it just so happens that survivors complain more.
Regarding the struggle bar. Hooking favors the killer, while pallets favor the survivor, right now at least. Perfectly balanced if u ask me, as all things should be. Not mentioning that if a killer is close to hook, getting a perfect frame flashlight save will still que the hooking animation. If the has DS + High ping, the hooking will still favor the killer. Not sure, but I think also if the killer has high ping, it will still favor him.... I might be wrong about it...
In the end, all sides complain.
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It's probably the result of the new pallet bug fix. Another part of it could be to account for lag, since that little delay can get some ridiculous hits with questionable WiFi.
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You're right, all sides do complain. That's why I really don't understand the victim complex you're getting from seeing a killer complain. I never said killers don't complain, but you said they do most of the complaining and I just don't think that's true. Also, how is my argument biased? I looked at the front page at an arbitrary time and I think the front page I'm seeing now is pretty typical of what I'd usually see.
What happened here was someone complained about a bug and you accused them "crying their heart out". As you say, kindly bugger off.
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Ive noticed this and its fine imo. It really just stops the survivors from being hit through the pallet. Now the only change to them is to remove a bunch of the pallets respectively on each map. Like maybe even add some on shelter woods aka unsafe pallet woods. But also get rid of half the pallets on the game
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20 or so posts and not a single clip uploaded. Just bickering amongst yourselves. Another reason reddit gives so much crap to this forum. Holy hell.
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The problem is not with the speed of the stun, it has to do with the area of the stun. You back up to avoid the pallet stun and somehow get hit anyway.
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I'm a pig main, not noticed any difference myself but I'm not saying it isn't happening to people, server issues or the bad hit detection again maybe?
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I'm a pig main, not noticed any difference myself but I'm not saying it isn't happening to people, server issues or the bad hit detection again maybe?
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