The Legion: Disappointment.
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@Khalednazari said:
I hope you guys aren't the same people who called the Spirit weak during the PTB.She was weak during the PTB and after release. She wasn't even in her intended state until some time after release.
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Has anyone tried with a build that plays to its strengths rather than holding onto the meta for dear life? I'm curious as to how a build based around PWYF and Bamboozle would play out.
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I'm assuming this is bait. Considering his power let's him vault faster and chain attacks with reduced attack cd....but ok. Rant away.1
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@Khalednazari said:
I hope you guys aren't the same people who called the Spirit weak during the PTB.The spirit was weak on initial reveal. She received 3 waves of buffs due to all the feedback. Don't act like the forum feedback isn't useful
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It's not that bad
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It's just the PTB, damn. Everything might change.
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@Carpemortum said:
I'm assuming this is bait. Considering his power let's him vault faster and chain attacks with reduced attack cd....but ok. Rant away.The problem is that his power isn't used to down survivors. Hitting players with the power is very easy. The problem is vs good loopers you are just a powerless 110% killer chasing a wounded survivor.
Im sure it will be tweaked. Maybe stun time reduced post frenzy could help.
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Problem is against good loopers? His power let's him fast vault.Might_Oakk said:@Carpemortum said:
I'm assuming this is bait. Considering his power let's him vault faster and chain attacks with reduced attack cd....but ok. Rant away.The problem is that his power isn't used to down survivors. Hitting players with the power is very easy. The problem is vs good loopers you are just a powerless 110% killer chasing a wounded survivor.
Im sure it will be tweaked. Maybe stun time reduced post frenzy could help.
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Thanatopia is finally usefull atleast...
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@Carpemortum said:
Problem is against good loopers? His power let's him fast vault.That's not how looping works. Look at a race track and see if you can figure out how looping works.
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It seems he has insane snowball potential.
The only problem is that splitting and doing generators alone is a very hard counter. I actually don't know what I can do if people split up.
I will wait for good killers' streams to see his potential better (zubat for example)2 -
Are you serious right now? I know how looping works. And it usually involves windows or pallets to lengthen. Dont be a dick about it. Look at sesame street and see if you can figure out how not being an ######### works.Orion said:@Carpemortum said:
Problem is against good loopers? His power let's him fast vault.That's not how looping works. Look at a race track and see if you can figure out how looping works.
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I've also played my fair share of PTBs, but you're being very early to say this in my opinion.
I'm not really surprised though, this always happens...2 -
@CallMeBacon said:
To add on to that, the Killer is slow. God it feels like the Hag walks faster. I'm so goddamn done. I got so hyped over this, helped spread the word on other platforms and keep people informed only to receive this steaming pile of #########.They're sadly the same speed.
His power doesn't help end chases, only extend them since the Deep Wound status is garbage.
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@CallMeBacon said:
To add on to that, the Killer is slow. God it feels like the Hag walks faster. I'm so goddamn done. I got so hyped over this, helped spread the word on other platforms and keep people informed only to receive this steaming pile of #########.-why did you get hyped over this first of all?
-the killer design is super bland...
-why were you spreading the word about this chapter? it's not even a well known slasher or even licensed hahaha!id argue this killer is not worse than freddy because he doesnt have to wait 4-7 secs just to hit someone ONCE so that already shutdowns your argument .
yes this killers ability is kind of close to amandas dash but if anything amandas should be stealthier and not have that stupid lion roar until after youve landed a hit.so amandas, slow and stealthy ...legions fast and dangerous.. see? opposites
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@Carpemortum said:
I'm assuming this is bait. Considering his power let's him vault faster and chain attacks with reduced attack cd....but ok. Rant away.I think the problem right now is that it's very hard to down survivors with the new killer, unnecessarily hard maybe. Because while in frenzy mode, you will need four hits to down a survivor. So it might be good against looping, but actually downing survivors is a different story. Also, every time you hit someone in frenzy who already has the deep wound status effect, you get thrown out of the frenzy and get quite a long stun, long enough for survivors to gain quite a bit of distance. So then if you hit a survivor two times while in frenzy you'll either activate frenzy again, hit the same enemy, get stunned, wait till you have your frenzy back and then hit the survivor a fourth time during the next frenzy, or you just chase him normally after wounding, however, chasing a survivor with 110% speed without using the killers ability is not very effective.
I think though he'll be very hard to balance. But we also should still wait and see if this killer really needs a buff or not. If yes, it probably won't be easy. The fact that he can pretty much ignore the two defenses survivors have against a killer, vaults and pallets, will make him hard to buff since he could easily be overbuffed.
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I was watching the kings video on the new killer, and it looked like he was not getting kicked out of frenzy hitting the same guy over and over, but maybe I saw wrong. It still allows you to put pressure on the body blockers, and vault fast enough to follow through on someone after inciting chaos.ad19970 said:@Carpemortum said:
I'm assuming this is bait. Considering his power let's him vault faster and chain attacks with reduced attack cd....but ok. Rant away.I think the problem right now is that it's very hard to down survivors with the new killer, unnecessarily hard maybe. Because while in frenzy mode, you will need four hits to down a survivor. So it might be good against looping, but actually downing survivors is a different story. Also, every time you hit someone in frenzy who already has the deep wound status effect, you get thrown out of the frenzy and get quite a long stun, long enough for survivors to gain quite a bit of distance. So then if you hit a survivor two times while in frenzy you'll either activate frenzy again, hit the same enemy, get stunned, wait till you have your frenzy back and then hit the survivor a fourth time during the next frenzy, or you just chase him normally after wounding, however, chasing a survivor with 110% speed without using the killers ability is not very effective.
I think though he'll be very hard to balance. But we also should still wait and see if this killer really needs a buff or not. If yes, it probably won't be easy. The fact that he can pretty much ignore the two defenses survivors have against a killer, vaults and pallets, will make him hard to buff since he could easily be overbuffed.
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@Vietfox said:
I'm not surprised. About people bitching so early about the new content i mean of course
Funniest thing about that is the DLC isn't even live yet. I'm pretty sure the devs will still tweak the legion as they did with the spirit too.
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I remeber the same thread two hours after the spirt came out lmao3
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@Delfador said:
It seems he has insane snowball potential.
The only problem is that splitting and doing generators alone is a very hard counter. I actually don't know what I can do if people split up.
I will wait for good killers' streams to see his potential better (zubat for example)zubat makes any killer seem decent, Hexy puts her below clown and pig. Playing her on the PTB is frustrating to say the least, it's as bad as playing Pig.
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@akbays35akbays35 said:@Delfador said:
It seems he has insane snowball potential.
The only problem is that splitting and doing generators alone is a very hard counter. I actually don't know what I can do if people split up.
I will wait for good killers' streams to see his potential better (zubat for example)zubat makes any killer seem decent, Hexy puts her below clown and pig. Playing her on the PTB is frustrating to say the least, it's as bad as playing Pig.
So the game should be balanced around mediocre players? That's not what killer mains think about the depip squad.1 -
@akbays35 said:
@Delfador said:
It seems he has insane snowball potential.
The only problem is that splitting and doing generators alone is a very hard counter. I actually don't know what I can do if people split up.
I will wait for good killers' streams to see his potential better (zubat for example)zubat makes any killer seem decent, Hexy puts her below clown and pig. Playing her on the PTB is frustrating to say the least, it's as bad as playing Pig.
Even zubat found him very weak.
When survivors don't heal themselves and ignore it altogether he becomes really weak. He has the potential to be a very good top tier killer but right now, I feel like he is low-mid low tier.
He is fun to play though.0 -
Waaaaauhhh0
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Definitely think legion needs to be changed to 115% speed and his frenzy ability needs to comback quicker and mend needs to take longer to heal3
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Crying so soon? Just a PTB so they might do some changes on him before the actual release! So, cry for what?
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I just busted out laughing at this 😂😂😂😂Carpemortum said:
Are you serious right now? I know how looping works. And it usually involves windows or pallets to lengthen. Dont be a dick about it. Look at sesame street and see if you can figure out how not being an [BAD WORD] works.Orion said:@Carpemortum said:
Problem is against good loopers? His power let's him fast vault.That's not how looping works. Look at a race track and see if you can figure out how looping works.
Good one.0 -
The guy literally doesn't give any feedback and just insults the developers for something they try really hard to please the community. @Peanits and @MandyTalk should just close this thread because OP is literally just attacking the developers for no reason but just to be a complete jerk.GhostrickSpecter said:Crying so soon? Just a PTB so they might do some changes on him before the actual release! So, cry for what?
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I'm a surv main but i have to agree with him. He's so ######### weak. I played with him some matches and the only way to get 4k was not using the power so much and chasing as if i was playing with another killer. Legion really needs a buff when he arrives at the live servers. I enjoyed Spirit a lot, Clown too, even Pig... I didn't enjoyed Legion
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@CallMeBacon said:
Orion said:@CallMeBacon said:
I've been playing PTB since release.. Game after game trying to learn the Killer and have some form of fun. Instead I found possibly the most unfun and frustrating games I've ever played. I've literally had more fun as and against Freddy then as and against this new killer.
So you've played the PTB for all of two hours and haven't already learned everything there is to know about the Killer? Who could have guessed?!
With each game being 10 or less minutes long, I've gotten enough to learn the Killer's power is beyond weak. At least at rank 5 anyway. The high rank survivors are dominating the New Killer. I suppose low rank is probably having an easier time.
Because everyone has mastered everything to know and has obviously used every perk combination let alone mastered the new map right? I mean how long did it take people to amster the Nurse?
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all he needs is a buff to bleedout
make it go down in chase or make it go down while mending, other than that hes pretty good, run thanataphobia and sloppy butcher and just chain hit people, even if they get mending down itl take a while to heal up and if they dont heal then they cant do gens fast, increase terror radius to make people more scared to heal1
