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first hook death
After rank reset bug ı came cross with new players more than I do before and killers that I face with are more prone to camp the hook when things doesn't go undercontrol.Well the thing is why am ı loosing my rank progress if ı died on my first hook I can't unhook myself on my own or can't force someone to trade the hook so this isn't my fault to die on my first hook why do ı loose my rank progress then?
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Because rank is based on certian things done during the match, and you didn't do enough before you died. But I'm sure you know this already.
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- this isn't my fault to die on my first hook
Didn't you get caught?
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Technically, it wasn't his fault, if the killer wants you dead — you're going to die. There's nothing you can do to prevent this fault from happening as it's predetermined if a killer wants you out of the game. Unless you're implying it's his fault that he didn't call the killer into a Discord Chat and try to convince him otherwise. But... let's be real, who's going to do that and how will you know the convince tactic will succeed? Maybe he should've brought more luck offerings.
To elaborate even further, the killer is the power role, so even if you're doing your best as the survivor, you're still eventually going to get caught. At that point, you know you're going to die, so minus well stall for as long as possible to give your teammates as much time as possible to do generators.
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There's a hook counter for a reason. Take some agro.
Dying in first hook means you're doing it wrong.
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If the killer wants you dead, you still can escape. The entire map is designed so survivors can survive. You have pallets everywhere, windows, lockers, etc.
He got caught, the killer hooked him, his teammates refused to unhook him. Sucks, but it was his fault. The killer didn't tunnel him out of thin air, he must have been the first one to die.
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That's not how DbD works. At all. Survivors use resources to extend chases, and they very quickly run out of those resources no matter how good they are. An amazing survivor can make a chase last maybe 5-6 minutes agasint a mediocre killer. But that killer can still facecamp them to death and nothing the survivor did caused or could possibly prevent that because no matter what the survivor is going to go down.
Is that a good play from the killer? No, the killer was clearly garbage. But it doesn't change the fact that that survivor is dead through no fault of their own, and this is absolutely common at lower ranks. Killers taking petty kills because there's nothing survivors can do to stop them.
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A lot of people forget that hook time is also a resource and if you haven't been hooked yet and there are other survivors who are close to death hook, force the chase or just go down trying to bodyblock someone and protect them from dying.
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I don't think getting caught once is a fault I might be chased for 2 or 3 min which is pretty good enough for other survivors to do gens but after that how am I getting rewarded about it if killer camps me and wait for me to die there I'm playing solo and due to rank reset other people not always willingly to help me out in that sitiution and also there is nobody can be chsed for forever so getting hooked isn't a failure and I shouldn't be punished for that bc killer wanted me to die
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have the survivors ever considered going easy on a bad killer the same way killers sometimes go easy on bad survivors?
like. i get it. but if you've done something that's aggravated a bad killer to the point they actually will just kill you specifically and let everyone else leave, then i'm on the killer's side here. don't make people feel bad for trying and you won't get revenge camped.
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I am not trying to say lets do smt about campers all ı wanted was to keep progression when this happens ı don’t want loose my rank progression
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then dont be a dick to the killer and they wont drag you down out of spite
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Killers don't always face camp because the survivor played scummy, there are lots of killers who face camp because the killer themselves like to play scummy. Don't insinuate that people who play killer can do no wrong, killers can be just as "toxic" as survivors can.
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the entire discussion is about bad killers facecamping pro survivors to get revenge, so. please understand the context of the posts you're replying to.
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Strange, i had games where killers wanted me dead because i had a key, and i still survived, partly, because i know how to juke a killer and lose him in a chase, partly because i had a good team (even though i was playing solo!) that managed to coordinate an unhook and tanked hits for me.
I still believe keys are balanced in solo queue by the killers that will tunnel and camp you if you bring one, and the rest often not realizing you had one till after the match.
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I do, if i clearly outskill the killer. For example, i dont loop then. Yes, i waste a pallet or two, but not after running in a circle for 2 minutes prior.
The killer often just cant see if the survivor can loop and choses to play different, or if he just dont know how to loop.
And i never do one of the "techs" a new killer is most likly not to know about. Also, the only meta perk i usually bring is iron will, so i think i go easy on many killers.
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But you escape bc the killer doesnt know what hes doing. Many tiles can be bloodlusted and while the killer loses the game bc of that he will get a hit. Take the cowshed 1vs1 for example. Even with a map like that you cant loop forever and its hard to lose sight to hide if the killer does not try mindgames. Whether you can hide depends on the map too. So if a killer with the same skill level wants you dead at the beginning, you will go down.
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I still disagree. Mostly, because a lot of killers cant find you after you juked them, even if they are good in loops.
Where you are right, though, is that a lot of map reworks nerf the stealth gameplay, making it way harder to juke and escape the killer. And i am never afraid of that hit, because that one hit (or a stun) is whats usually needed in order to escape the killer. Its your job to be in a spot where that can happen after a hit.
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Why did you change the subject of this debate? OP said he was specifically tunnelled then camped out of the game, he didn't say he was the first to die. Being taken out of the game via camping and tunnelling is way different than just being the unlucky one to die first.
If you're being tunnelled out of the game, there's nothing you can do besides stalling the killer. The fact that you even think he can prevent this "fault" from happening shows you lack a lot of survivor knowledge. Survivors aren't invincible, they will eventually get caught.
Don't worry, I time traveled into the future and read your rely. Borrowed Time, Decisive Strike, and other related perks can help fight against this, but the killer doesn't care, they will kill you even if it means throwing the entire game. It might be enough if the killer isn't experienced, but don't expect BT and DS to stop a decent killer from killing you.
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Ah, didn't see this, thank you for defending my point, I'm not the best at explaining.
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I don’t know how some people change the subject but it was all about rank progresion ı really try to find something related to getting revenge but can’t figure out Lets make an example of it then bc clearly some people misunderstand and think killers are right there is no right and wrong on what ı wanted to say (which side doesn’t matter) let’s say in the early game killer and ı got into a chase and it took long than it should have taken 3 gen poped and wasn’t able to due gens and killer also wanted to kill me so bad and at some point i got stuck and hooked and camped other survivors got out didn’t came for me match ended ı lost rank progression even though ı am the one who killed all the killers time so that they can escape is this a fair rank system ı don’t think so if ı was unhooked ı could at least done the last gen but didn’t happen ı wasn’t doing gens in games opinon but in all game ı was unable to anything(ı mean the hook stage)or ı was in chase for a long time at this point why the hell do ı have to loose my rank progression
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The emblem system is broken, this is nothing new, the devs know as well, you just get used to it.
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