Tombstone myers

Yes, the Tombstone Piece could get some Nerf. Tombstone is more fair, it has another Drawback and needs more Stalk than the Tombstone Piece. And honestly, I only see the Tombstone (pink) when people are trying to get the Achievement to kill all Survivors with EW3.

Regarding Rat Liver - the Add On got nerfed, but Demos base Shred got buffed. So overall, if you use Rat Liver, you wont feel any difference. (except that you are using at 100% instead of 101%, but I doubt that you can seriously call that a Nerf)

If you give him some juice you deserved to get tombstone. If anything hop into a locker and stay away from him.

You're not dead and didn't lose 3 hook states instantly, just 1 insted at a place where he would insta down you when using T3 normally.

No, you should play like vs any stealth killer (there are far better ones) and not get caught out of position - MM needs to literally breathe on your neck to tombstone you.

Memorise locker placements and loop MM like normal, once you're out of pallets / windows, hop into the closest locker since you would go down anyway.

Both of that is very easy to do vs purely M1 killer like Myers, if you fail at that, you deserve to be tombstoned once he got so close to you and charged it for ages losing gen pressure not injuring / hooking anyone.

I wonder how do you actually survivor vs good killers when countering M1 killer is so much trouble for you. I advise you to watch actul good survivor streams and how they obliterate basically all M1 killers in chase, then apply the same to myers and as they say gid gut.

Or go out there, buy Myers and use the damm addons in at least 25 matches, you'll see it's weakness very soon if you get at least a couple competent survivros. But that would be too much effort wouldn't it ?

Tombstone is fine. It takes forever to charge up. All ya gotta do si hop in a locker and he can't mori you. It's simple. I win against them all the time.

Tombstone piece doesn't have any kind of tell besides the increase in stalking required. That's imo the main reason it's so broken (also the fact you can use it with fast stalking addons to get a kill extremely early ofc) as a mori of this kind shouldn't come out as a suprise.

JT is actually great vs average team if you use it in a good build. I've probably one of the very few weirdos who uses it very often and I get good results with it but most importantly IT'S SO MUCH FUN. Nothing beats the feeling of playing REAL Michael Myers who just stalks everyone whole game and the gets into real killer mode and just runs around killing survivors instantly. I love it so much and I really really hope it won't get touched in the future of Micheal's balance changes.

All that should happen is give slightly more sound cues to both tombstones and nerf tombstone piece with less MM speed and some more stalk required.

Oh, I'm sure it's fun to goof around with JT and against less adept players it will put up results. I just view it in terms of how it would fair against better players, and in that regard, I think it is awful. I would prefer seeing both get re-worked to being actually good but not OP add-ons.

Also, Tombstone Piece should get the same tell as Judith's Tombstone. It makes no sense to not give Tombstone Piece that tell when it's much stronger than Judith's Tombstone.

Not 100% sure how this works, but couldn’t he just drop you on the ground and then mori you from there?

Justifying Tombstone add-ons is playing devil's advocate. "It takes so long to get ready." "You can tell he has it because his hand is like this." "You can tell based on how long he took to stalk." "Just break los." None of these matter. Instantly moriing someone out of the game is stupidly overpowered to the point where nothing can justify it. It is old moris on crack, pretty much as powerful as original original moris where you didn't have to hook anyone, just down them. But with these add-ons, you don't have to down anyone, you don't have to injure them, you just have to walk up and press a button.

Tombstone Piece is broken. Not going to argue that at all - its drawback is barely a drawback and deleting someone from the game two minutes in because Claudette didn't see Myers watching her on a gen is absurd. Judith's Tombstone is a different story.

Is instant mori-ing extremely powerful? Yes. Is it fun to play against? No. But Judith's Tombstone works in one of two ways. Either Myers isn't running it with Tuft of Hair, which means you can survive either by waiting it out in a locker or by looping him for the duration of EW3 - and this is more doable than it sounds, because he's barely better than his T1 speed when he's running this addon. Which is something survivors can easily notice as a warning. He'll also probably not get T3 until middle/late in match unless your teammates are extremely incompetent.

Or he's running Tuft and you can't outrun him; he can wait forever. Except the thing is, if he's running both Tuft and Judith's at the same time, he needs to near fully stalk everyone. He can't just leech off the weak links, he has to spend time tracking down everyone and milking them despite their efforts to block LOS. He can't waste time on actual chases - he's still very slow and they just don't help his objective - so he has near-zero pressure. So Tombstone + Tuft games end up as a race - does he get T3 before the survivors do most of the gens? If yes, Myers wins. If no, he's only getting one or two people max, zero if he never makes tier 3.

It's not going to be a fun game. No matter who wins, pretty much everyone involved is going to depip. But it's not nearly as unbalanced as you're making it out to be. He has to, from the perspective of every other killer, throw most of the game to do this.

I like the tombstones as flavor for Myers - there's a level of tension against him that you don't feel with other killers, and I wish there was more of that. And if they remove the tombstones, they'd create an almost impossible achievement in their wake, especially with Moris being so conditional nowadays too. But I'd much rather see Piece changed into something fundamentally different than Judith's.

He can instant Mori with both. Tombstone piece immediately resets his T3 to 2 so he has to stalk again after a Mori. Judith's Tombstone allows him to Mori until his T3 runs out (which is almost always used with fragrant tuft to give infinite T3). It takes so much extra stalking and slows you significantly however. If survivors get mori'd they really messed up because getting all 5 gens done should not be hard before he gets tier 3 if you don't just stand there and allow him to stalk you...