So does anybody play Twins anymore

I still play them.

I'd play them more if I found them more fun to go against. I try to avoid playing killers that I hate playing against when I play survivor.

I play them all the time and people over react to this nerf I played and they feel the same yes landing a pounce and waiting is annoying but there still the same nothings changed at first I hated them thought they were the worst killer in dbd but when trickster came out I changed my mind

One of my most played killers these days by far even after the changes.

That said, they definitely did kill off quite a few of the Twins players (with what little there was already). Eating a DS every time you play well is flat out un-fun and very bad design.

Are they still good? Of course

Do they feel awful to play now? Absolutely

They really need to revert the change. The Twins issues are camping and holding Victor hostage, not slugging.

I wish I went against Twins. Gone against literally 4, ever, 2 of which were on release day. It's a shame because I know their power and what completely shuts Victor down, and I don't actually get to use that knowledge in favour of going against Legion #12.

After the third game I was about to suicide on first Hook against Twins. Really, they are just a pain to go against. I hate Victors giant Hitbox, his visual model can fly past me and I still get hit.

Like, they are a really creative Killer, but the Devs managed to ######### this Killer up so bad that it is weak and unfun to go against. Surprising how they managed this after releasing Blight, who is strong and fun to go against.

I would rather go against Stridor Spirit than against Twins. Luckily, I dont go against them that often, but 3 during one day was 4 Twins too much for that day.

I'm glad I have not seen them in over a week. Honestly a lot of people play them tediously, such as slugging people for the half match.

Yeah I've changed my opinion on them.

I mained them before and still do. I still find them fun but god it's just such an unnecessary change that makes them so much more of a chore to play.

Good on you. I realized the Twins were good as soon as I saw that Victor could counter looping. Which means he can slug everyone once all the survivors are injured.

Yeah you basically have to play them very different than other killers. Feels like you're playing a different game to me.

Playing the way the devs want you to play them is just extremely inefficient on time and simply non-viable. We however get around that bad time efficiency by being super time efficient with Victor. The time you save cutting out as many hooks, zooming around the map with Victors speed, and countering loops is tremendous.

There's also the bonus that so few people actually play the Twins that most people don't actually understand how to counter them because they've had so little experience facing them. A lot of their counter play is also the complete opposite of what you want to do against most killers, IE grouping, healing, and slowing the game down. If you cut off their snowball potential they are significantly weaker.

If it's not a major change then why are you mad?

I don't see how either character is punished for using their power effectively. Twins are rewarded for using their power effectively by getting a down. The stun is there to give survivors a chance to prevent a snowball because Victor is too fast to do much about in a chase unless you're on a perfect tile. Your only good option is to heal before he shows up.

I don't see how this is any different than something like Bubba's Chainsaw cooldown.

Idk, I liked playing as Billy alright before and the charge bar changed nothing. I don't really enjoy playing as Twins and the change to Victor didn't change that either. It was a three second stun before, so bumping that up to five seconds really isn't that big of a deal.

I would be happy for Victor to have a big cooldown between uses (like Oni), or a limited turning radius (like Blight), or much slower movement speed (Nurse), or a terror radius (like all three), but the fact remains that he doesn't. I don't think the 5 second cooldown is the best possible change - not at all - but I think the Twins have enough wrong with them right now that they're in borderline full rework territory. As a bandaid, I really don't mind it.

Nurse and Blight are both punished for using their powers if a few seconds of extra fatigue is the definition we're using for "punishment". Hell, you could even argue that the three second standard weapon wipe is punishment for landing an M1. I wouldn't consider any of this punishment. Fatigues exist to balance out a strong power, just like cooldowns for perks with strong effects. Sometimes they're fun and sometimes they're not, but the function is just to maintain balance. If the killer is not fun to play as or against, then change them. The cooldown is not a fundamentally poor design decision.

Bubba's tantrum is exactly 5 seconds by default, so I think it's a good comparison. If I hit a survivor through a window, bump the window, and start a tantrum, or intentionally bump into a locker and hit a survivor who mistimes the exit, am I being punished for using my power? Certainly not. The mechanic just exists to give some counterplay to survivors and raise Bubba's skill floor a bit. In both cases the clear reward is getting a down, and that easily outweighs the inconvenience of a five-second stun.

Not if you slug everyone with Victor and use Deerstalker to collect your prizes 😉

I just played a match and the 2s difference is barely noticeable... I am not saying the change was good or deserved but so far they don't feel weird.

I played them 4 days ago, for the first time ever.

Did my adept on them (got Hawkins by rng). Didn't camp or overly slug, just downed someone and went for another survivor to hang Victor onto. They were potatoes tough.

Will have to try and get that achievement where I need to down them with my little son... I MEANT BROTHER!!! Still hanging to survivors when I down then.

Dunno how I will do it, as it seems to be so easy to get Victor off before I even reach them.

I don't see them very often (only 1.35% of my total matches since Trickster came out), but people definitely still play them.

I've played a couple of rounds with them and you definitely feel the nerf. They're not the weakest killer but not that great either maybe below average.

since the nerf, no. they feel very slow and clunky. used to love them, played them a ton for several months, got very good at them, and still do enjoy them, but having to feel so slow every time I get a down gets boring.