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So it seems
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Discussions have been getting deleted lately. Nothing new.
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What was it about???
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
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@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
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@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
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@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
Yeah I found it strange that they implied that the intention for Legion was not to actually get the kill... but more to chase survivors and hit them. If you want to kill then play Billy or Nurse. Ummm.... no? I play killer to kill not to stop survivors from playing gen simulator and play tag. It was just weird... and I hope what they said just came out wrong.
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LOL; pretty good job so far... man up instead of listening to R20 scrubs and please understand that you balance from the top down, not the other way, now i'm really starting to fear that nurse is gonna get the same "deep wounds" to make her "fun and balanced" for the scrubs
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@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
They should be able to play at high ranks for themselves at the first place, because THEY are in charge of balancing the game. How can they do that if they can't play their own game? If they do not see the difference between the R15 and R3-1?
As you said, they should hire good players to show the gameplay on streams, while they should be able to play at high ranks on their own just to see how it is and make neccessary changes.
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@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
Honestly, the only person that's part of the company I've ever seen play well is Queen.
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@Exerlin said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
Honestly, the only person that's part of the company I've ever seen play well is Queen.
Yeah, and she was there - completly wrecked the killer guy. Sadly, only she was playing well.
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@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
Oh dear, why does he always say some stuff like that??? I'm sure he meant something else but the way he said it was misunderstood....hopefully. Not_Queen is the best dbd player I've seen from all of the devs though
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
Oh dear, why does he always say some stuff like that??? I'm sure he meant something else but the way he said it was misunderstood....hopefully. Not_Queen is the best dbd player I've seen from all of the devs though
Sadly, not this time - it was quite clear what he meant.
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@Exerlin said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
Honestly, the only person that's part of the company I've ever seen play well is Queen.
There is an employee that played like 3000 hours somewhere too.
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@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
Oh dear, why does he always say some stuff like that??? I'm sure he meant something else but the way he said it was misunderstood....hopefully. Not_Queen is the best dbd player I've seen from all of the devs though
Sadly, not this time - it was quite clear what he meant.
But, how is the killer not being able to down survivors fine??? What is this logic??? That's like adding in a perk for survivors that prevents them from completing gens and saying it's fine!!! That's not fine!!! The killer's objective is to down, hook and kill survivors all while defending the gens!!! I see potential in this killer but in his current state, he just can't do much with his power because it just hinders him!!! I made a post of possible buffs for him while keeping his same concept but even if we add lots of posts to the forums about his possible reasonable buffs I feel like they might not listen!
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@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
Honestly, the only person that's part of the company I've ever seen play well is Queen.
There is an employee that played like 3000 hours somewhere too.
Is it that legendary employee, that nobody have ever seen? Really, even if he is a veteran player I doubt he is in charge of balance, and even if he is - there are still many newb people who are in charge of it too.
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@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
Honestly, the only person that's part of the company I've ever seen play well is Queen.
There is an employee that played like 3000 hours somewhere too.
I have one on my friends list who has played for almost 9000 hours.
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@Orion said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
Honestly, the only person that's part of the company I've ever seen play well is Queen.
There is an employee that played like 3000 hours somewhere too.
I have one on my friends list who has played for almost 9000 hours.
So where are they? Why did they put the R20 players (and Queen) to show new content? They embarassed themselves.
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@RSB said:
@Orion said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
Honestly, the only person that's part of the company I've ever seen play well is Queen.
There is an employee that played like 3000 hours somewhere too.
I have one on my friends list who has played for almost 9000 hours.
So where are they? Why did they put the R20 players (and Queen) to show new content? They embarassed themselves.
My guess is they're doing their job.
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Tru3 said he has potential to be the weakest killer.
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@ReneAensland said:
Tru3 said he has potential to be the weakest killer.
I watch him daily.Yesterday he played against his R15 minions, and he was amused how "OP" the Legion is. Today he got wrecked a couple of times and already changed his mind, quite funny.
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@RSB said:
@ReneAensland said:
Tru3 said he has potential to be the weakest killer.
I watch him daily.Yesterday he played against his R15 minions, and he was amused how "OP" the Legion is. Today he got wrecked a couple of times and already changed his mind, quite funny.
He's a professional streamer. His job is to entertain, so the opinions he expresses, for the most part, are simply what will be most entertaining at any given moment. If you want real opinions, you need to look for someone who doesn't get paid depending on how entertaining their opinions are.
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Yeah to say that not all killers can be op is one thing, but to say him unable to kill is fine....isnt...
I feel like DW ticking while in a chase would fix a lot of this still...would allow to at least chase one person better, or have those still near you bleeding and requiring to gtfo and heal or go down. Making him a pain spreader is one thing, but its gotta be possible. I dont see any real issues with him except that his ability is linked to a new, messy mechanic, and m1 attacks DRAIN your power. Meh. Still gonna buy and play legion for fun at some point.1 -
@PhantomMask20763 said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
Oh dear, why does he always say some stuff like that??? I'm sure he meant something else but the way he said it was misunderstood....hopefully. Not_Queen is the best dbd player I've seen from all of the devs though
because hes an idiot and literally a living meme. he doesnt give a crap about the communitys feedback. if he did he would not make such moronic statements. i remember back to the thing way back when he told everyone to play another game on stream and he pissed not queen off she in her head to me was mentally wanting to slap him by her reaction. so they delete the vod to try do damage control because he said another stupid thing demeaning the killers of the community. i think he forgets killers are the life blood of his game. well glad im not buying any more killers or supporting this game any more financially other people should do the same its became a clown fest ....
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@Carpemortum said:
Yeah to say that not all killers can be op is one thing, but to say him unable to kill is fine....isnt...I feel like DW ticking while in a chase would fix a lot of this still...would allow to at least chase one person better, or have those still near you bleeding and requiring to gtfo and heal or go down. Making him a pain spreader is one thing, but its gotta be possible. I dont see any real issues with him except that his ability is linked to a new, messy mechanic, and m1 attacks DRAIN your power. Meh. Still gonna buy and play legion for fun at some point.
I'm probably the last person to tell someone not to buy something, as they are not my money, but buying a ######### product from the devs won't teach them anything.
Don't get me wrong, I have all the possible DLCs and would gladly buy another one, but... This is no way to make this game better. When the main dev tells you in the face, that the killer is not ment to down survivors - isn't it telling something? Isn't it screaming to slap him in the face, and the best slap would be not giving him money?
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I said eventually. I may save shards. And considering I do a fair amount of kyf, him being "too weak" doesnt deter me so much. I agree, it's a little ridiculous he just out and said it's ok he cant down people....but I'm guessing it was misinterpreted or there are people other than just Matt that decide what is and isnt balanced. He isnt the end all voice. Its "his" game, but there are people that will tell him hes an idiot.RSB said:@Carpemortum said:
Yeah to say that not all killers can be op is one thing, but to say him unable to kill is fine....isnt...I feel like DW ticking while in a chase would fix a lot of this still...would allow to at least chase one person better, or have those still near you bleeding and requiring to gtfo and heal or go down. Making him a pain spreader is one thing, but its gotta be possible. I dont see any real issues with him except that his ability is linked to a new, messy mechanic, and m1 attacks DRAIN your power. Meh. Still gonna buy and play legion for fun at some point.
I'm probably the last person to tell someone not to buy something, as they are not my money, but buying a ######### product from the devs won't teach them anything.
Don't get me wrong, I have all the possible DLCs and would gladly buy another one, but... This is no way to make this game better. When the main dev tells you in the face, that the killer is not ment to down survivors - isn't it telling something? Isn't it screaming to slap him in the face, and the best slap would be not giving him money?
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Please go watch the stream where this is discussed. Many of you are taking this out of context only on what other people have said. He never said it was fine for any Killer to be weak; he said they can't make every Killer more powerful than Billy/whatever last Killer to get an update. He said Legion has a different playstyle and is a fun way to play the game.
And any Killer can win. Some have different styles, and some are a little easier with insta-downs and quick attacks (Nurse, Huntress). The new Killer hasn't had a chance yet to the public aside from a small amount of Beta testers and thinking you need to play any one Killer just to get kills is ridiculous. Give Legion a chance.
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I could have sworn that they convinced @EpicFailTryHard to play Legion until i realised that even he doesn't miss that much, and that guy plays like he's using an Airhockey table as a mousepad.
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@Coriander said:
Please go watch the stream where this is discussed. Many of you are taking this out of context only on what other people have said. He never said it was fine for any Killer to be weak; he said they can't make every Killer more powerful than Billy/whatever last Killer to get an update. He said Legion has a different playstyle and is a fun way to play the game.And any Killer can win. Some have different styles, and some are a little easier with insta-downs and quick attacks (Nurse, Huntress). The new Killer hasn't had a chance yet to the public aside from a small amount of Beta testers and thinking you need to play any one Killer just to get kills is ridiculous. Give Legion a chance.
Everyone have their brains, eyes and ears. We know what the new killer is like, what we saw on the stream and in the game, and we heard what the devs told us - we are not brainless masses.
We have our thoughts and no one will change them by their golden words and lies.
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