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Is it really the appropriate time to nerf Freddy?

HP150
HP150 Member Posts: 455
in General Discussions

Freddy has precisely one strength: He can read the aura of survivors after he inevitably loses them in a chase, because he is a M1 killer with no power to help him in a chase and no way to speed up the pallet looping process.

Instead of completely abandoning Freddy and allowing him to fall even further into a state of garbage while we wait for the rework, maybe, just MAYBE, they could hold off on the "lockers hide aura" change until said rework? We did pay money for this "killer" after all.

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  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    and now freddy cant find anyone in his dream world because they can duck in a locker then use distortion to cover themselves up until they wake up bcause distortion hads no time limit per token which is bull #########

  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    oh my god I actually forgot about that, Welcome to rainbow six siege freddy you want to be blackbeard I see

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976
    Hope survivors are smart enough to go on the locker inside his terror radious though
    Will be a real laugh seeing an aura dissapear and i can just walk over there and jank them out of a locker

    Also Iron maiden
  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @alivebydeadight said:
    oh my god I actually forgot about that, Welcome to rainbow six siege freddy you want to be blackbeard I see

    welcome to overwatch freddy you want to be a mercy i see

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    Doesn't Distortion only work for 10 seconds per used up token? It seems to me that a Survivor in the Dreamworld would run out of token pretty quick.
  • makayla
    makayla Member Posts: 287

    I'm amazed they didn't buff Freddy with this patch, I genuinely thought they would. He's one of my favorite killers and he deserves better.

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786

    If you're worried about lockers use Iron Maiden.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Tzeentchling9 said:
    Doesn't Distortion only work for 10 seconds per used up token? It seems to me that a Survivor in the Dreamworld would run out of token pretty quick.

    i think its more but you also cant forget the fact that waking up already is too easy if you have a 10 second blindspot your good as awake

  • itsDorkMagic
    itsDorkMagic Member Posts: 13

    We know that they are working on a revamp for Nightmare, and I believe that it's fair to assume that this locker change is likely taking whatever those changes are into account. Nerfing Freddy in his current state feels incredibly bad and unnecessary, though, for sure. Personally, my biggest issue with this locker change is that it just doesn't feel very intuitive from a design standpoint. There is really no reason for a player to naturally think that a locker would hide your aura, so it's something you would only known if you read it in a loading screen tooltip or had someone tell you, which I think is not ideal from a game design standpoint.

  • OakLestat
    OakLestat Member Posts: 125

    @friendlykillermain said:
    it is a travesty isn't it the lockers hide auras is one of the worst changes we have ever seen couple that with return of slow pick up super buffed borrow time new meta breakdown and as if sfw qasnt overpowered already aftercare and top it off with a broken stealth perk able to give you a free escape and a new killer not worth the dirt on the ground truly the devs no longer give a ######### about kilers

    1. Lockers hiding Auras is ridiculous for sure and a poor choice of changes. but the other items you mention here are worse. This is something we will adapt to, but to make it work it needs to remove all survivor Aura reading as well while they are inside.
    2. low pick up: How do they not do something in between the old and the new. Makes no sense. Speeding up the pick up sped up the game, increased the competitive and frantic nature of a match. No reason to screw with that.
    3. IMO: Borrowed time is now broken. Simple as that. Stop giving survivors easy outs because of loops and extended chases.
    4. New survivor perks. While they will make it into many builds. They still have to take the place of Urban evasion, Sprint burst, Self-care, DS, etc. So I welcome more variety.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @HP150 said:
    Freddy has precisely one strength: He can read the aura of survivors after he inevitably loses them in a chase, because he is a M1 killer with no power to help him in a chase and no way to speed up the pallet looping process.

    Instead of completely abandoning Freddy and allowing him to fall even further into a state of garbage while we wait for the rework, maybe, just MAYBE, they could hold off on the "lockers hide aura" change until said rework? We did pay money for this "killer" after all.

    He got nerfed twice.

    First of all, the aura thign you mentioned.
    Second, the new graphic style makes it even harder to see in dreamworld.

    I guess I will play him exclusively to derank now :wink:

  • BottledWater
    BottledWater Member Posts: 248

    @HP150 said:
    Freddy has precisely one strength: He can read the aura of survivors after he inevitably loses them in a chase, because he is a M1 killer with no power to help him in a chase and no way to speed up the pallet looping process.

    Instead of completely abandoning Freddy and allowing him to fall even further into a state of garbage while we wait for the rework, maybe, just MAYBE, they could hold off on the "lockers hide aura" change until said rework? We did pay money for this "killer" after all.

    I don't think Distortion or Lockers will hide Freddys aura reading if they do I will actually have to hang myself because my Freddocini shouldn't suffer like that. We are in a pretty rough spot with this patch tho and I will have a feeling that highranks become even more painful which means for me to play my way back up from 9-1 and then quit for the rest of the month

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    Use Iron Maiden perk. Boom! Problem solved. You're welcome!

  • Freudentrauma
    Freudentrauma Member Posts: 1,053

    @Dreamnomad said:
    Use Iron Maiden perk. Boom! Problem solved. You're welcome!

    Perks aren't the answer for huge design flaws for a basic killer mechanic. Especially if it's perk which requires you to own and level the newest killer to even unlock it for Freddy...

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    friendlykillermain said:

    @alivebydeadight said:
    oh my god I actually forgot about that, Welcome to rainbow six siege freddy you want to be blackbeard I see

    i think thats precisely the problem the devs keep forgetting small details like i dont know the fact freddys only advantage is aura reading but nope thats out the window have disortion? then good for you you can be put in the dream world 3 times before he will finally see you

    see the problem their devs

    This is actually a very good point I havent seen mentioned. No time on distortion is pretty freddy breaking.

    Also, noticed the new pic! You a freddy main now? Just ooc, no sarcasm lol.
  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,741
    Probably a better time than 2 weeks after release @_@
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Dreamnomad said:

    Use Iron Maiden perk. Boom! Problem solved. You're welcome!

    I mean yeah but I really don't like the idea of perks being used to balance a killer in my opinion. Hopefully you'll understand my point of view. ;)
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Lol, i already dislike waiting 7 seconds to then start doing #########, i didn't need this for him.

  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    Has anyone actually tested this yet?

  • Fenrir
    Fenrir Member Posts: 533
    Wasnt freddy getting a rework?
  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @Fenrir said:
    Wasnt freddy getting a rework?

    DS too!
    DON'T WORRY I'M SURE IT WILL COME SOON HAHA

  • Fenrir
    Fenrir Member Posts: 533
    yeet said:

    @Fenrir said:
    Wasnt freddy getting a rework?

    DS too!
    DON'T WORRY I'M SURE IT WILL COME SOON HAHA

    SOON