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Rule of honor???

Hi everybody. My Wife started playing DBD recently. Wraith main...she got everybody hooked 2 times and killed one survivor at the end. Then someone said its a rule of Honor to let the last person go when 3 others already escaped. I mean.....really? Am i stupid or are the survivors getting more and more toxic? When i play survivor, i never complain when im the only one getting killed?

What do you think?

Comments

  • Laluzi
    Laluzi Member Posts: 6,226

    I mean, if your wife wants to be nice, that's good for her. She doesn't have to be, and survivors shouldn't expect that, but mostly people should play the way that makes them happy. If she's doing this out of a sense of obligation, you should make her understand that she doesn't need to and survivors aren't entitled to anything, but if she's doing it because she likes playing honorably, cool.

  • PanicSquid
    PanicSquid Member Posts: 655

    I have never heard of this supposed rule before. Also I would think that the honorable thing would be the last survivor gives themselves up as a consolation prize.

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    No. Giving hatch or door is something the killer can do if and when they feel like it, but it's her choice.

  • BronzeHandModel
    BronzeHandModel Member Posts: 116

    I love this community. Thanks guys. My wife thought she did something wrong because she is new. Now she Kills all😂👍

  • TheStabbiNAngeL
    TheStabbiNAngeL Member Posts: 1,264
    edited May 2021

    It depends on how fast they gen rushed,how much they bmmed ,and how much ,I had to deal with the whole match.

    One kill anit gonna give you pips but you can still make Brutal otherwise if the match was clean and fun then if, I don't kill at least two by the end of the match they can leave if,I have the choice, because it feels ######### to get one kill anyway and feels petty

    Some of swf's will give you a kill to help out if they consider you honorable, I guess and maybe out of pity lol

  • TheStabbiNAngeL
    TheStabbiNAngeL Member Posts: 1,264

    But you're free to play as is,there isn't any rules.

  • CLAUDETTEINABUSH
    CLAUDETTEINABUSH Member Posts: 2,210
    edited May 2021

    So let me explain this: this is a multiplayer game, thus you can expect a lot of toxicity. In order to avoid this I suggest to turn off your endgame chat. If you enjoy watching other people get tilted on endgame chat, then I suggest making fun of them. I certainly do. (Edit; tldr on the bottom because I don't expect anyone to read all of this :p)

    Now some backstory to what they said. There is no actual rule of honor in dbd, but there are two entitled books called "survivor rulebook" and "killer rulebook", even tho you mainly see the first one. It's basically game mechanics that the other side finds unfun, op or annoying, so they flame you if you use em, or suspect you use em. Let me give you some examples.

    Some restricted characters are: Freddy, spirit, nurse, hag, doc, twins, blight (sometimes) and huntress (if you're against console players, some might tell you to quote "play huntress on controller to play fairly" or they accuse you of hacking.

    Restricted game mechanics: tunneling, camping, slugging, 4king (not giving last guy hatch, especially if someone dcs or kills themselves on hook, the entitled survivors will shame you if you didn't farm with them, farming is basically not playing the game to win, but instead working with the survivors to achieve max bloodpoints), teabagging, flashlight clicking, using emotes at the killer, body blocking, genrushing (basically trying to complete all gens as fast as possible), sabotaging hooks, ect.

    Restricted perks: deadhard, ds, unbreakable, noed, make your choice (on certain characters), Franklin's demise, urban evasion, lightborn, hex ruin, hex undying, ######### it literally every hex, tinkerer, bbq and chilli, pop goes the weasel, object of obsession, a nurse's calling, sloppy butcher (yes I've been accused of running sloppy), discordance, blood warden, head on, sprint burst, every exhaustion perk basically, almost forgot corrupt intervention and infectious fright! ect.

    Add-ons and items: almost every iridescent addon on every survivor and killer, rusty suckles (hag), all keys, all flashlights, all spirit's add-ons, ect.

    You wouldn't be surprised to learn that I've been shamed for running almost every single thing I mentioned here. Even if you play everything exactly how your opponent wants you to play, they still won't be satisfied. Because they don't have your perspective.

    I personally really enjoy watching people get salty and try to debate with them. But they almost never listen, and it's pretty uncommon to not be met with death wishes, for both me and everyone I love, according to them. But if you made someone that mad, then you basically won, since they're either way terrible people, getting reactions from them are hilarious.

    Tldr; there are two different rulebooks that no actual logical human being will decide to follow. Both of them are purely theoretical, and every entitled player expects you to follow them, even tho they don't follow it themselves, mainly because they never play the other side at all or enough

  • miketheratguy
    miketheratguy Member Posts: 2,719

    Lol "rule of honor". People will come up with anything to get a win these days.

    I let survivors escape because I like to, not because anyone's going to make me feel obligated to.

  • Akito
    Akito Member Posts: 673

    If people trying to teach you on how to play this game just tell them: 2016 is over, spread the message.

  • bowo
    bowo Member Posts: 121

    That's ridiculous. As long as you aren't intentionally trying to upset someone or ruin their experience in some way, it doesn't matter.

  • Shroompy
    Shroompy Member Posts: 6,789

    Thats not being toxic, thats being entitled

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    No, that's not a thing. Sometimes I give hatch if I'm feeling chill and had fun but there's never any expectation on my end as survivor to ever be gifted the hatch.

  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976

    I mean, especially killers too tho. People camping at first hook being like "Oh, BuT i GoT a 4k So I wIn". Even though there is absolutely no challenge to that playstyle.

    Players who only play 1 side are entitled AF, always complain about mechanics on the other side and never ever looking at their own. "dead hard bad, but lunge good, sprintburst bad, but spirit is fine, unbreakable bad, but slugging good"

  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976
    edited May 2021

    The only rules of honor that exist are:

    1. as killer, try not to camp or tunnel unless you need to(often around 2 gens left or less with no one dead or dead on hook).
    2. as survivor, try not to rush gens unless you need to(often around 3+ gens left when someone is dead on hook).

    That's it, that's the rules of honor. Dont rush games. Its not a tournament. You get nothing extra for rushing.

  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458

    You read this entire thread and got absolutely nothing from it. Those two aren't rules of "honor" either, merely your preference. The only things Players on either side should be abiding by are:

    1. Don't cheat, either by hack or lag spike.
    2. Don't disconnect; if you start a game, finish it.
    3. Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.

    Those are the only requirements of good sportsmanship and thus honor is satisfied. Any additional rules, which you make up for yourself, only apply to you. It is, in fact, bad sportsmanship to infer or state that others are beholden to your personal code.

  • FrndlyChnswSalzmn
    FrndlyChnswSalzmn Member Posts: 705

    They're just being entitled like always. Pay them no heed and kill them without mercy.

  • ChiSoxFan11
    ChiSoxFan11 Member Posts: 1,093

    Your wife could have told them that the "Rule of Honor" states that, should all survivors be headed for an escape, one survivor should willingly die so that the killer doesn't leave the trial empty-handed -- and that everything had gone according to that code. 😆

    (Seriously, though -- there is no "Rule of Honor", as others have said. It sounds like someone was salty that their friends escaped while they weren't able to).

  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976

    But those are actual rules. Honor rules is what the playerbase expects in general. Considering the general consensus is "genrush bad" and "camping/tunneling for no reason bad". Yeah, those are honor rules. Ones not stated by the game, ones just being desired by the community as a whole. So no, its not just MY preference, its the consensus of the community as a whole. It's why people who tunnel hardcore at 5 gens get hated. Its why people who do a 3 gen split when the killer doesnt even have a single hook get hated. The only "preference" is the amount of gens where that behaviour is going to be neccesary.

    Besides, those arent the only requirement of good sportmanship and I can easily prove it:

    I can proxy camp a survivor, tunnel them hardcore only to slug him in the end and keep slugging all game. I would not be cheating, I would not be disconnecting, and all I would need to do is say "gg" after essentially torturing a player in game by making them unable to play. That's not good sportsmanship. That's not honorable. Yet they follow all the rules in the game.

    As for "be humble in victory, and gracious in defeat", not an honor rule. Some builds are meant to be madness inducing to the opposition, the more triggered the opposition is, the fairer it can get. The honor in that situation is to not exploit that madness to rush objectives for no reason.


    You cannot say that actual in game rules that have actual penalties and consequences(cheating and disconnecting) are honor rules. I can suicide on hook because I simply dont want to play a certain match due to either teammates being extremely slow and selfish, or the killer being extremely boring and campy. It would be an honorable way to exit the game. It would be dishonorable for my teammates to expect me to stay in a game that has practically 0 chance of recovery and practically 0 chance of progression(especially if the killer slugs a lot).

    Which leads back to rushing objectives. Dont rush objectives for no reason. That's the only honor rule anyone can live by without any holes in it. And it's the only honor rule that's supported by the community in general. Doesnt mean objectives are never rushed for no reason. Sometimes its accidental, sometimes its on purpose(for example, against spirits with prayer beads and stridor, or against survivors who decide to work on generators in your face because they assume you wouldnt chase someone off hook), but it's generally avoided. Making it an honor rule.

  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458

    To put it in a word, nonsense. The so-called community (the player base) isn't in agreement on anything. For every person you find that thinks YOUR preferences are an honor rule, I'll find you one that laughs hysterically. Honor is an "individual" thing; it always has been. Feel free to maintain YOUR honor. Nobody begrudges you that. Just don't try to sell your snake-oil to anyone else. Good sportsmanship and honor for EVERYONE is merely the rules. Anything extra is yours and yours alone.

  • Kharbarg
    Kharbarg Member Posts: 126

    There is no rules at all. You make your own rules. Just play as you want. Be free and get fun.

  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976

    THE MAJORITY is. The playerbase IN GENERAL is. And no, for every person I can find that laughs hysterically, I can find at least 5 people agreeing with me.

    "Good sportsmanship and honor for EVERYONE is merely the rules."

    You said yourself "Honor is an "individual" thing; it always has been.". So how can the rules be honorable when they are merely the rules? They apply to everyone, they cannot be honor.

  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976

    How? A rule cannot be an honor rule, it literally is a rule. Besides, not nonsense. Go ahead, make a poll here: should you rush kills/gens regardless of the situation. The majority will answer no. Meaning the consensus is that you shouldnt. Making it a community honor role.


    If you ever get pissed at your opponent rushing kills or gens, you're abiding to that honor rule.

  • ShinobuSK
    ShinobuSK Member Posts: 5,279

    Rule of what? :D

  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458
    edited May 2021

    I never get angry at my opponents for playing within the actual rules. Your imaginary honor rules are moot. I'm far more likely to get mad at my fellow Survivors for playing poorly, squatting in corners or self healing while someone dies on the hook than I am a Killer just doing/his her job. As a Killer I'm not going to get upset that Survivors are doing Generators as fast as the can. That is their job. Again, everything within the actual rules of the game is honorable and good sportsmanship. All these personal morals and morays are just that, personal standards of behavior that you are free (encouraged even) to adopt. Just don't pretend they apply to anyone but you, and that you are being anything other than obnoxious when you try to grief or shame others into playing by them.

    I hope I pull you as a Survivor sometime, I truly do. I'm sure the after match salt where you explain how I have no honor will be quite amusing. For the last time, the rules of this game are transparent and clear. The only thing one has to do to be a good sport (and thus honorable) is:

    1. Don't cheat, either by hack or lag spike.
    2. Don't disconnect; if you start a game, finish it.
    3. Be humble in victory, and gracious in defeat.

    Everything else is valid, legal, and honorable. Your personal rules apply only to you.

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  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976

    Again, honor rules are rules that are not set by the makers of the game, but made by the players.

    Your argument that "the rules are the honor rules" is self-defeating.