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"Do you need meta perks to win matches in dead by daylight"
I have literally had games where 4 Gen's get done in the first 2 minutes of the game (rough estimate), so yes even if your a god tier killer if the survivors are even a bit experienced with the game they will gen rush you that's just how the game is it's not a player thing it's just an issue with the mechanics of the game no use crying over spilt milk.
unless your playing a killer that has great map pressure spirit, nurse, billy, triangle face, ext then your going to want to run meta perks that can slow the game down or else most of the time Gen's are going to fly before the first survivor is dead, but again this is not taking into count the situational circumstances that appear in each match whether it be a Survivor who is being stupid and trying to taunt the killer only to end up getting snuffed or a killer who makes a poor choice in deciding not to kick a gen that is 99 in favor of trying to finish off a survivor.
"Do you need to run meta perks to win matches in dbd" yes and no this argument is almost as old as the game and people don't seem to understand that it's not a black-and-white situation it's mostly Gray the circumstances of every match decide whether this is true or not. Yes in the fact that most games you will get gen rushed if your not running perks that can slow the game down but the same can be said if the killer isn't applying the basic fundamentals of situational awareness and map pressure on the survivors which in turn can lead to them being gen rushed. No in the the fact that many killers out there don't run gen slowing perks or Survivor stalling perks and still win matches, but can you say the same to a high rank sfw team that are on coms, communicate well as a team and are running a full set team of BT and DS users? And if you think that this is just me stating a really rare occurrence then you obviously don't play this game that much because this is a far more common occurrence than you think.
In the end I truly don't have any answer for you but this is just my take on the matter and i hope you have a great day and have fun on dbd :)
P.S sorry if there are any grammatical mistakes I'm typing this out on mobile.
P.SS to clarify this discussion is mostly centered on the killer side
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Well yes if survivors run meta and you don’t losing shouldn’t be uncommon
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How the hell are 4 gens getting done in 2 minutes? Are you even looking for survivors?
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80 seconds (1 minute and 20 seconds) for 3 generators while they're looking for and chasing one survivor, assuming the survivors are split. Then, if the 3 survivors work on the gen the other one started, it's conceivable that they could finish it within 2 minutes. That's without taking perks and items into account.
However, it's hard to tell time in stressful situations, so I wouldn't take the 2 minutes thing too literally.
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Yes.
Nobody is holding your hand. Use the best options available or lose, simple as that kid.
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I run my regular build:windowns of opportunity (infinite info of safe/wasted loops) spine chill (gain distance over killer) iron will (cuz I'm always that person trying to flashlight save) and lithe (extra distance is always good to have) so no I don't depend of meta combos but I indeed run powerful perks because I see no reason why I would use useless perks over something actually helpful just like killer use best combos to 4k
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Oooooo I like "Triangle Face" :)
Okay but, I don't really need Meta Perks as a survivor no. But if I play killer, oh yea, I need all killer perks in the game to play killer lol
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Ive only recently started using gen regression perks like Ruin + Undying or Pop + Corrupt (depends on the killer) and games have become way too easy, Ill stick to Blood Warden which is way more fun to use
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Assuming good opponents? Survivors don't, because they rely more on teamwork and the uninteractivity of gen repair. There's a reason most of the survivor meta is second chance perks.
Killers, yes, absolutely, much more so, because you need to slowdown the game more than ever in the current meta and you're not doing that as any killer without either direct slowdown or Infectious Fright.
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Survivors actually doing their objectives, I assume. My normal trial is me losing 3 gens in 90 seconds thanks to opponents playing safe, which isn't a loss by any means but it does put a hell of a lot of pressure on the killer.
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no
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No but I like to use them
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yeah I was going to say you run bt and dead hard on all your builds what do you mean no
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Ya the 4 gen 2 minutes was a rough estimated but again I have had matches where the beginning is only gen popping sounds but from my experience its a pretty good estimate
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I recommend running corrupt intervention on slow-medium speed killers. That should fix your issue. I wouldn't say you need all meta perks but having at least one like corrupt definitely helps!
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No. But it helps, specially if you are not playing in a swf.
They are a lot of camping killers from hook 1 in red rank lately, really pitiful because it's not necessary to win. So perks like BT and DS are needed, BT mostly.
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You need a gen regression perk for sure but that's mainly it. The rest of them are up to you. I use perks that help with my killers' power.
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I am a killer main. I have a standard build I like to run. Its not meta per se but the 2 things killers need are 1: Tracking and 2: Gen Defense. In my opinion this is.
Bbq, discordance, corrupt and pop. I find that these help me alot. On certain killers I find I can switch one or 2 out depending on the killer.
Survivors mostly rely on 2nd chance meta perks. I play alot of different hours. After every match I make sure to look at the perks and ranks. Its amazing to me that most of the reds and say 7 to red use a lot of meta.
You don't see as many in the green area of ranks. There definitely needs to be some sort of slowdown at the beginning of the match. If you find a good looping survivor first they can waste 80 seconds of your time. If 3 other survivors are on gens you pretty much lose 2 to 3 gens quickly.
The devs tend to cater to the survivors. They need to make the game easier for them. The survivors buy cosmetics, they play with their friends, they bring others into the game. It makes sense from a business perspective. Cater to your majority. They can't make it overly easy but enough where the survivors have an advantage.
As a killer you make 1 or 2 mistakes you can lose the match. Survivors can make numerous mistakes and still win. Tack on the unfair advantage swf gets from communicating through coms and it is even harder.
Best advice I give. Never care if you win or lose both sides. The game is too random to win every time. Just say gg and move on.
Remember folks. Win and lose with dignity. After all, it's just a game.
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I go into every match attempting to win and honestly I'm surprised there are people who just want to chill and relax in it but it's usually these very same people who are extremely unchill after the match. vOv
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At high ranks kinda yes. Meta builds helps a lot getting good results consistenly, but that's just the nature of a meta (aka most effective tactic available). That doesn't mean you can't get good results with other builds, if they are well thought, functioning, and fit your playstyle.
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Most of the times no. There's that once in a blue moon game where you wish you had slowdowns. So if you're scared of losing take them, if you want easy games most of the times take them too
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Survivor main here.
My main build is WGLF, BT, DS, and UB. DS and UB used to be mutually exclusive in my build as I didn't want to put the killer in a lose-lose scenario. I found that I was naive.
I have more fun ensuring some sort of normal gameplay each match than I do running fun perks. It's more fun to avoid getting tunneled and slugged than it is to run gimmicks and have no defense against underhanded tactics.
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If you are bringing bad perks, you better be good. Some Killer's can get away with this because their base kit is so strong, most can't.
As for Survivor, I've never relied on full "second chance" build and, I feel like it has made me a better survivor.
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Lol. Complain away, their strats give my build so much value. It's only a 'second chance' if you let me leverage it...
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As a Pyramid Head Main, he doesn't have that much map pressure. He has chase pressure because his PotD and his trails, but I can't pressure a map for [REDACTED]
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No. Perks give an advantage, but ultimately it's down to skill. You could have a meta against others who have no perks, but if they're more skillful than you then those perks will not win it for you.
I've beaten meta builds on both sides with few or no perks, and likewise had decent builds which failed against people who were not on meta.
Ultimately, it's how you use perks and their synchronicity to your playstyle which can help, but it's your skill and ability which plays the main role - at least from my own experience of the game.
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