Plz fix billy, he was nerfed so much it’s just not fun to play him anymore
his overheat is still painful, his animations hurt him so much with how janky they are. Why was he nerfed so badly. Was it because he was OvErPreFoRmInG if so that’s so absurd. All he needed was a add on change but you guys needed to nerf him. You guys said it yourself that you think he was a good killer with a good chunk of counter play but still you guys nerf him. Even if your think the overheat is fine the bugs. His new add ons suck too they don’t even have to be good make them fun at least
i know there are so many billy threads lately but that’s how bad he is right now. You guys basically killed him. He is painful to play.
plz Balance team reconsider and at least make him feel better to play
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As someone who also lost their main, this thread has my full support.
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Agreed, make him fun again atleast.
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Have you actually taken the time to play Billy or did you just play 1 game, do bad and come to complain about it?
I never realized the amount of people that relied on add ons to do well with him, he's the exact same base kit, he can still do everything he could before except for Space Billy. If you get fast enough downs and use your chainsaw properly overheat isnt a problem, especially if you have add ons.
I will agree tho the animations are a bit annoying, but you get used to them.
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Give us old Billy boi. He was so fun, play as him or against him.
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I play him all the time and he's fine. You just can't spam his chainsaw every second. Would like to use it for distance a bit more with less overheat but its not a burden.
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He actually wasn't over performing. The devs literally said in the post about nerfing billy that they liked how he was performing and they only wanted to tweak him a bit.
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I know its not bad i barley overheat unless im trying too but it just makes him less fun to play
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It was a necessary change to prevent people from revving it at pallets while chasing people inevitably.
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Played since 2017. Rank 1 both sides. (I know that doesnt mean anything but 5k hours does). Billy used to be fun to play as and against. The only time it felt unfun was guess what? Crack billy and instasaw. Which coulda been addressed by just addon passing. Overheat was just unnecessary. Then we get into the roar. The fov nerf. And the limp.
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there is actually a lot of things they did with him that make him worse or at least less fun to play.
they made his collision zone bigger so you can hit more things while using your chainsaw
the reworked maps have weird hitboxes so it's harder to cure( especially auto haven)
and he has some weird hitbox issues with his chainsaw where its harder to hit a surv
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he already had a downside from revving his chainsaw and that's the slower movent speed
a good player can take so much advantage from that.
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Instasaw Billys (Primer bulb and carburetor tuning guide) With spirit fury and enduring was oppressive to go against, even when maps like old Thompson house, Yamaoka, Bloodlodge, wreckers yard where good survivors could combo tiles/gyms together would still struggle against good Billys. I couldn’t imagine old billy on the new deadzone autohaven maps/ yamaoka now..
Crack Billys (Doom engravings with carburetor tuning guide) took more skill and more muscle memory development to cope against good SWFs but would majority of the time come up on top for the 3k/4k against Good SWFs excluding death squads..
The devs could remove the overheat mechanic and I think billy would be fair still..
Yeah old billy needed to be nerfed, that killer was way to oppressive because of how strong his kit was. Rev backs where not that hard to hit at all compared to flick/curving around filler pallets..
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Been playing since 2017 as well, 3.8k hours.
Crack Billy is technically still in the game just a bit toned down. But apart from overheat and the roar nothing has changed
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I dont think his collision zone is bigger I just think some of the maps have wonky hitboxes, which theyve always have.
Curving is still very possible and I do it with no issue. On maps like Badham, Autohaven and Ormond especially youre able to curve around some objects no problem
The harder to hit survivors thing I haven't experienced at all
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curving is albeit possible but much harder with the new reworked maps
and there are a ton of bugs that make him so unfun like the bug where if a survivor vaults a pallet and you use your chainsaw it will break the pallet over downing the surv
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Yes but new players would get massacred then the new killers would get massacred as soon as they got to Rank 12 because they never learned anything. It's a double-edged sword. I use to love Billy's who didn't know any better and would rev but at the same time, getting any 1-shot down attack revved on your face on the hook was fun for no one.
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It's so damn hard to enjoy Billy with those new animations, and double engravings with overheat is too stressful. I just wanna play my flick Billy man.
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Survivors need fixing before Billy. Billy with certain perks is still completely broken and a free win.
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tf happened to you
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I think you're running out of fresh things to say.
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there's that
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I don't know how you are playing Billy, but I do not have any issues with overheating AT ALL. I really have to force it to overheat, it does not happen to me when just playing normally. So overheat mechanic is a non-issue for me. The addon changes have a much bigger impact, but they were necessary, as most would agree.
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I don't care about his overheat. Just please fix his weird ass headbob and hitbox when chasing around loops, I get caught on random crap that I don't with any other killer and the headbob makes me nauseous
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Finally! A voice of reason! 😂
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That "bug" has pretty much always been a thing, there was an actual bug where it broke the pallet and downed the survivor at the same time but that got patched a while ago
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Okay...comeon. theres the genius you normally do with like paragraphs and actual good points. Then theres that travesty.
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Oh btw.
Has your opinion changed?
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Imo they just need to adjust the amount of heat gained from running the engraving add-ons. If you run both you can only rev your chainsaw once before it overheats.
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Dude, i'll never understand what "people just relied on add-ons" means; i hate Scott Jund for spreading this stupid take about Billy.
By that logic every single killer who is okay enough base kit should have all his add-ons gutted because otherwise it's boosted, but that's something that the devs only reserved for Billy according to their fantastic judgement.
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But look at where Billy is, he's in a fine state and he always was without add ons but people are literally considering putting him in D or C tier of their tier list. There is no other killer in DbD that made a killer go from really hard to use to almost the easiest killer to pick than Billy because of the add ons that were at his disposal.
Add ons shouldn't define who a killer is, they should be minor enhancements, not borderline broken.
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For over using your power and using it wrong, if you use your chainsaw at just the right moment you wont overheat
I've been dumping A LOT of hours into Billy recently, he feels only slightly different then back before his rework and its mostly animations.
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They gut survivor movement the same as they gut Billy animations. Survivor perks like his addons. Pallets etc.
It's like anything that took skill or was unique is unwanted in this game and replaced with cruise control playstyles and a no-thinking meta.
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Yeah, he used to be a top 3 killer. Now he's worse than Leatherface.
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This is the moment their opinion changed (they're the Meg)
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I do miss old billy was fun to play and not too op. His add ons are complete trash and overheat mechanic is terrible. Also remove his loud screaming like who thought that was a good idea? Every. Single. Time. I even think of revving his chain saw his loud screaming just gives me a headache.
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Watch Kaiz or TricksterShadow
They are good Billy players (still playing him at the moment on daily basis ... by contrast to other known Billy players)
They manage to 4k each game with 0 regression perk (e.g., Whisper + BBQ + Infectious + 4th slot being M&A or Enduring).
They hardly ever trigger overheating mechanism in chases while still doing their lovely curving stuff. Most of the time, they even manually trigger overheating mechanism before carrying someone to optimize the decreasing overheating time.
However, Billy feels a bit clumsy at the moment with some camera movements. I am pretty sure that Devs can fix this as welcome QoL change.
Finally, it looks like all crying Billies were just addicted to crack-billy insta-saw add-ons oOo
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Nope wasnt addicted to his addons. Just liked billy without a limp,roar, pov nerf, and not a mini nurse fatigue (hes not supposed to look completly at the ground) and his other glitched animations. Also theres just better options instead of him now for instance bubbas getting pretty up there.
not to mention topknot oni.
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Bubba is stupidly easy to play since his rework and this Otz movie just demonstrates it (e.g., revving the chainsaw so far from survivors with either a down or a pallet sounds really dumb/clumsy and I do expect bubba addons to be nerfed in future patches)
In other words: you are not proud of yourself when you got a down with Bubba. But the feeling when you manage to land a lovely curving hit with Billy is really great and this will never change xD
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I dropped Billy entirely to go back to Spirit & Nurse. I also picked up Wraith since Freddy got gutted... Again. Don't blame me for the way I play in games. 🙃
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The problem with Billy isn't that he's weak, the problem is that we're in a period where there are new good killers and some of the older ones have been buffed, so him receveing a rework no one asked for and the devs not fixing his bugs doesn't cut it.
Bubba already feels like playing Billy without any of the effort and inconstistencies.
Even playing with Engravings doesn't make him straight up better because of the increased charge time and more heat gained. The devs making another indoor map makes things worse.
He just doesn't compete with other killers that make much better use of add-ons. Nobody wants to play a weird nerfed base kit Billy and having to babysit a red bar.
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