As someone who is new to the game
To clarify, I only have about 20 hours in the game. What is up with the matchmaking? Is it always like this? This is really not fun to play against. This person continuously went for me when I was unhooked :( I know I need more practice at the game but this feels skewed a little.
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It's been worse. As a killer (rank 1) you could reliably go against rank 18-20 survivors back in the day if you knew how to do it (helped some old content creators to get their "montage materials" quite easily).
They are planning on changing the matchmaking soon(ish) once again.
It probably won't do much either, so dont get your hopes up.
Just bear with it. A positive side effect is if you play against more "skilled" opponent you will learn the game quicker... But at what cost.
Just to make it easier on your psyche, perk wise, perk less survivors have much higher chances of surviving against good killers than a perkless killer against good survivors.
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Well, you see, 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 10. You're rank 12.
Close enough, really.
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Just kidding, yeah, matchmaking has been terrible for a good long while.
The MMR system is being hailed as a potential solution, but who knows when/if that'll happen. Just enjoy the mayhem in the meanwhile.
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As Beaburd said, when the MMR will come to the game, it'd be better.
It'll match you with and against people of your skill level. If it works as the test we had a while ago, I found it was kind of effective.
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Going for the weak link is the sure way to win. Was this toxic, considering you were rank 12? yes, perhaps?
Is Matchmaking scuffed? Absolutely
People here would tell you rank doesn't matter.
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Going for the weak link is the sure way to win. Was this toxic, considering you were rank 12? yes, perhaps?
The killer has no way of knowing the survivors' ranks until the trial is over.
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First time you experienced getting tunneled? You should get used to it as fast as you can because a lot of killers play like this. They ditch any chase and come back for you when you'll get unhook. Anything for a win.
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It just feels really overwhelming and disheartening to go against. I thought I did absolute crap that game, but I literally couldn't get far without him coming back immediately. People even tried to take hits for me, but he wanted me. I understand going against the weak link. I get it. That doesn't bother me. What bothered me was this at the end. I looked and some of their steams and they have like 1-2K hours in the game. Haha.. 2k vs. 20 hours. Yeah... I know the jist of the game, I just don't know how to loop well yet.
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As I said, the tunnel was whatever. It was the ranks at the end. Like how am I suppose to learn when they can basically read my every move because they have 2K+ hours? I am still learning "tiles" or whatever they are called.
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Yes, he does.
Killers can judge the survivor's skill. You should know that a killer can guess what rank you are by the way you play.
"This guy plays really bad, can't loop, drops pallets without looking behind, he must be a low rank in my rank 1 killer game" - This is my way of thinking when I face these kinds of survivors. Most of the time I give them hatch as they have no business being in my rank 1 games.
It's how a killer knows who to chase & who to not chase. In this case, he knew he was bad, he knew was gonna go down quick, he knew he probably didn't have DS. There's plenty of clues.
The OP said it himself that the killer constantly went after him. I wonder why...
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It's a question about experience, not ranks. Ranks have no meanings in this game. You'll find much better killers in low ranks than in high ranks. Some players derank in purpose even if they are good.
The same thing can be said about survivors. Some red ranks survivors will be useless as hell compared to some green... or even brown ranks. Don't mind about the rank, just play and learn with time, that's all the good things we can wish for you. =)
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sorry that you got hit by the abysmal matchmaking how does this game keep new players? lol
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You'd think that'd be enough, but a lot of survivors in higher ranks are boosted as hell. I remember this one particular trial (even wrote a thread about it) with survivors who felt like they were complete newbies. I let them escape (except one). Turned out half of them were my rank, the others were higher. The highest was rank 6.
You can read the story here, although it's pretty much what I wrote above:
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This wasn't the first time I've had a red rank killer or what not, but it is the first time I have seen an ENTIRE game made up of red ranks. I don't understand how it happened, haha.
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This is nothing new, everyone knows the matchmaking is bad it has been for years.
This is why they are working on mmr
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If you're playing during peak times then there's too many survivors for every killer. The matchmaking will try to find you a killer of close rank but if it takes too long it'll grab any free killer and dump you in their lobby.
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DBD just confuses the hell out of me sometimes...
We have this argument: "Rank doesn't matter"
- I am against this argument. I wouldn't pair a rank 10-15 against a rank 1-4.
- But then at rank 1, you have teammates that play worse than those guys. If I learned anything, it's not to judge a book by its cover.
- I play in red ranks, I've seen my share of boosted animals, both as killer and solo survivor.
There are ways to GUESS a person's rank by the way they play, sure, but it's not always an accurate guess as even though they are red rank, they play worse than green ranks.
Nonetheless, if I encounter those guys I tend to give them hatch.
Edit: I Forgot. I've seen your story. When I encounter SWF like that I just think they're drunk or high....
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We have this argument: "Rank doesn't matter"
"Rank doesn't matter" is an oversimplification because it's easier to say than "Rank is not representative of skill, although higher skilled players appear more often in higher ranks, due to the way ranking works in the first place". I have found that many people don't read past the first sentence of a paragraph, especially if it goes on for longer than a line or two (like this one), so it's no wonder people come up with these sayings.
Unfortunately, bad-faith actors exploit that by either being overly pedantic and pretending they don't get the point, or by trolling people who make their point with long comments that leave little to no room for misunderstanding (again, like this one), so it's kind of a catch-22. Then there are people who genuinely don't get it, which muddies the waters a bit.
Nonetheless, if I encounter those guys I tend to give them hatch.
You shouldn't. Those guys I faced? Their ranks were probably the result of killers being merciful over and over again. Eventually, they faced a killer who completely destroyed them, and it sure as hell wasn't fun. No, I don't know for certain, but a lucky streak only lasts so long until it's broken.
EDIT: And, of course, when you make a long comment. The other person is likely to lose interest as well and stop replying (like what just happened here).
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I’m guessing you were playing at peak hours (late evenings, particularly on Fridays and Saturdays). Survivor queues get quite long at those times so the matchmaking loosens to find quicker games so people aren’t waiting 30 minutes for a match.
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Yet the killer only got a draw. Makes you wonder about balance, huh?
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Check again.
- The survivors not dead nor sacrificed. They are alive
- The spectate button in the left corner is still available.
- The killer's perks are not visible.
All of this, meaning the match has not reached its climax.
For all I know, the OP got 3k points, meaning he got killed very early on at 4 gens, even 5 gens. I can deduct that the killer won the game with a 4k in this scenario, not mentioning the killer is also rank 1.
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Oh, you're right. I didn't look at the killers status.
But the points can be deceiving sometimes.
Yesterday I had a match with a Bill who always ran away, when I approached him to heal him. With bond I saw how he corner crouched during the whole match. He died during the EGC and had like 6k points. (Red rank survivor, btw.)
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I apologize but what is a draw?
I started spectating and after the Cheryl died I went back to menu.
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OP mentioned that he got tunneled as soon as he got off the hook.
He is also bottom score, only 3k points, while the red rank above him who also died has 11k points.
With 3k points, you have to die very very early on. He must've got those points from chase alone.
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2 kills 2 escapes is considered a draw.
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As I said before, you're right.
@Kangaroohugs I'm sorry you had this experience. There is currently a killer shortage. That's why the matchmaking prioritizes faster matches over fair matches.
The devs have planned a skill based mmr. Which should solve this issue. But we have no schedule on when it releases.
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Please, please, please do us all a favor and don't become an entitled Survivor. Realize now that you are not entitled to wins; you are not entitled to have a Killer go easy on you. You win if you win and you lose if you lose. Don't become like all these other crybabies. Get better; you can win, you're just not good because you're new.
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Try not to let it knock you too hard. It's something we've all had to deal with, and yes it can be very frustrating and disheartening, but not every trial will go that way and you will probably have more balanced games than not.
A recent trial had 4 experienced survivors vs a rank 18 Trapper, and I think they downed me after 4 gens were done during the chase, but fair play they went off and pursued another. We all got out, but I messaged them (as at least one other survivor did) saying they did well considering the match-making and shared a couple of tips, etc..
It is hard to know the rank of who you play against until the end, but it's important that if someone reading this is experienced and find out they faced someone new that no matter how the match went to PM and give positive encouragement.
It'll get better as you learn more. :)
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The matchmaking is the major problem here but it's always been an issue in this game, hopefully when MMR eventually comes in this won't happen but we'll see.
As for the tunneling they're rank one so they know the power of targeting and getting out the weak link to try and slow down the game. Sadly this does suck for newer players but it's a pretty viable tactic when playing killer.
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Yes,this is the average MatchMaking on DBD.
And even worse than yours, 4 players SWF with 1000 together against me for example, the last time I looked stats I had 4928 hours played so.... Imagine how bad is.
Behaviour announced Rank rewards and new MM an eternity ago, but that new sistem never come and I think is not going to be released so...
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