towhead said:

so true  crusader.  ps4 is a nightmare.  then again  swf is out of control on there as well what about  see that don't use coms unless going for the where did they go trophy 

When Killers camp, I take the free win and move on.

@PiiFree said:

@Orion said:

Bad teammates are why I play stealthily. Get (at least) two gens, take the hatch after everyone else dies.

That's what I do aswell but I'm still getting tired of the DCs. It's really crazy these days, I recorded my matches for the Ironman Billy challenge and in those ~50 matches from Rank 20 to Rank 1, a total of 19 Survivors disconnected (against an empty Billy).

That's like 40% of all matches included a DC, which is pretty ridiculous.

Too true. DCs need to be punished harder.

@apropos said:
I've been seeing more on both ends, too. At one point I had a handful of games in a row where the killer would DC randomly, even when they were winning.

Sounds like network instability or a game crash.

I prefer to play stealthy all the time, i don't like to loop unless I have to, for me it's all about mind gaming the killer and trying to out think them. I always laugh when I make it out via the hatch at 3 or less gens left or get the gate and the killer never sees me. I've usually done 1 or more gens and cleansed 2-5 totems.

Most killers appreciate the stealthy playstyle while some hate the immersed aspect of it since they want the easy to see kill. For the survivors that die they get mad they died and I didn't and say i never did anything.

Hmmn the iridescent Benevolent and gold objective says otherwise especially when you get multiple safe unhooks and protect people running. I actually had someone brag they beat me by 5k points post game saying they did more.

They had 2+ stacks of WGLF from unhooking in front of or near the killer and still only beat me by 5k and I got out with 1 gen left to be done.

At certain ranks you'll run into the worst killers which is 12 or so but usually 10 down to say 3 that camp, smack you on hook while camping etc.

Spirit = DC
The Game = DC
Found in first 15 seconds = DC because since Spirit patch most of the killers tunnel and camp you anyway.

I play for fun and these 3 scenarios are not fun so I leave for a new match. And yes I dont care about the others when making that descision.

@The_Crusader said:
Nah he's right. Once you're on the hook against a Spirit it's game over.

They walk away a bit then phase walk back hooing tk catch someone unhooking you. If nobody is there they just repeat it over and over again until someone does unhook you, then they down you before you have a chance to get away and rehook you.

If you're not the one being camped have fun doing gens solo while the other two survivors run in, get hit, run away, heal, run in, get hit, run away, heal - and repeat. Though in some cases they do manage to unhook at which point the killer puts them right back on the hook and gets to skip the timer.

They are really boring and unfun games.

So they do the same exact thing every time, and yet you can't beat them?

@Wolf74 said:

@Orion said:

@The_Crusader said:
Nah he's right. Once you're on the hook against a Spirit it's game over.

They walk away a bit then phase walk back hooing tk catch someone unhooking you. If nobody is there they just repeat it over and over again until someone does unhook you, then they down you before you have a chance to get away and rehook you.

If you're not the one being camped have fun doing gens solo while the other two survivors run in, get hit, run away, heal, run in, get hit, run away, heal - and repeat. Though in some cases they do manage to unhook at which point the killer puts them right back on the hook and gets to skip the timer.

They are really boring and unfun games.

So they do the same exact thing every time, and yet you can't beat them?

Nono... the killer should just get FORCED to play different... and ofc give free unhooks, because the reward is so high that survivor deserve it without any risk.
Makes no sense...? Nevermind!^^

survivorlogic

Well, it's difficult to counter a counterable strategy that's performed every time. Makes people completely unpredictable when they do the same exact thing every time without deviation, you know. It's like following a recipe: you never know if you're really going to make a cake, or if you're gonna make a thermonuclear bomb. It's anyone's guess until it comes out of the oven.

@The_Crusader said:
Why do you salty killer mains always rush to try and call people #########?

If the random people I get put with unhook anyway for the points cus of the stupid benevolence system and let each other get tunneled faster then what does that have to do with me? I can't stop that.

I manage to get the hatch many times against the spirit. But sat holding M1 while they circle the hook and then having them force a 10 minute hatch stand off isn't fun at all.

It has nothing to do with not being able to beat them you toxic person, its the fact that its as dull as watching paint dry. Why dont they try getting good? Spirit can be hard to use fsir enough, so a lot just dont use her power to chase they simply use it to camp the hook instead. Its sad.

I didn't call you anything and I'm not a Killer main, so clearly you're thinking of someone else.

So a Survivor decides to farm you for points, but the Killer is the one at fault? Walk me through your thought process.
If you're not having fun with this game, you should switch to something else. I hear Civilization is good.

Why do people insult Killers for the mistakes of fellow Survivors?

That's a big issue actually, Survivors are very good at ignoring their own mistakes and instead blame it on the misbehaviour of the Killer (that simply made use of those mistakes).

I notice that as Survivor and I notice that as Killer. Getting hook farmed and the farmed guy wouldn't complain about the Survivor that farmed him - no! They complain about the Killer that simply took advantage of it and put them back on the hook immediately.

Listen, my fellow Survivor friends: This is the result of a stupid survivor, not a toxic Killer. Someone in your team decided to give you a quick end by unhooking you while the Killer was near. I see stuff like that all the time and I just wonder; are those guys purposely blaming the Killers to trigger them or are they truly so ignorant and blind to not realize that it was the bad plays of survivors?

@Vietfox said:
That's actually the point of builds. Builds are meant to counter stuff that makes you struggle the most, no one is suposed to be able to counter everything.
Create a build around your main weaknesses and/or necessities and use the skills to counter the rest.

Very true but quite ironically, most Survivors never use perks that actually help them to counter the strongest Killers in the game. They use the same basic crap from early 2018 and think it will help them win. DS and Sprint Burst when everyone is playing Nurse, Billy, Spirit. Self Care when everyone is running Sloppy Butcher. Still relying on pallet looping against Killers that aren't even affected by pallets that much.

Of course they think Killers are too strong. They basically try to beat a rock with scissors because everything else looks weak on paper, without realizing that paper > rock (oohhh that line).

@The_Crusader said:
Yes but you moan about one thing and people say "bring this and this" and then you moan about another and they tell you to bring this and this etc etc

Surely you've had it done to you. Its not helpful.

That's because you're looking to perks or nerfs to solve everything you can't counter. Sometimes, you're just going to have to play better. The vast majority of Killer perks and tactics have hard gameplay counters.