Can you guys stop nerfing fine killers
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Finally someone who states the obvious! Spirit has a 5 second power with a 15 second cooldown. Thats PUNISHING most games especially if a survivor can make you miss even twice.
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I did and i died. But that was 3 months ago. We all down in 2 minutes, she was tournament Nurse. And after her, i never face one of them.
I mean i killed by some Nurses ofcourse but i had chance againts them. I bought enough time for my team.
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Then this wasnt a good nurse, there are tons of videos and clips of nurse mains. I can recommend Ardetha who used to be a old time nurse main, nowdays not anymore but even on his recent videos you can see that he downs every single survivor in a matter of seconds. Nurse has almost unlimited potentcial of downing survivors. Its most of the part only your fault if you cant down the survivors as Nurse, not the survivor beeing good.
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Well most killers i face rank 1 and most them have +1000 hours. So most Nurses i am facing are red rank. And most them have good hooks. And most them also have sooooo sweaty games. But you know, we are also players. We are also playing this game for years, +3000 hours i have. Ofcourse i will beat some Nurses and some will kill me.
That is not game of Nurse will win all matches. Even tournament Nurses losing sometimes.
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Yes ofc but my point it is that the Nurses that lose the game are not losing because the survivors outplayed her. Its just the Nurse that messed up and made too many missplays and failed blinks.
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No. Nurse can lose for so much reasons.
- Nurse was new or noob.
- Survivors played well and juked her so good and she lost so much time with that.
- Survivors genrushed her, she had not enough time.
- She failed with blinks.
- Survivors were better than Nurse.
- It was one of the indoor maps, Nurse has hard times on this maps.
etc.
Nurse is best killer but she is not God. You can beat her. But if you are really good with her, you will win most of your matches. But most Nurses are not good like that. If you do not believe me, ask @CoalTower. He is Nurse main. He can confirm me.
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I guess you dont get my point or are not understanding it, you already pointed out with 4 of the reasons there with what I was saying, its her fault for loosing not the survivors xD.
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That is same for all killers lmao.
Freddy lost because of him mistakes. Blight lost because of him mistakes. Survivors are forcing killer to do mistakes. As survivor you have 2 objects: If killer is chasing you, waste killer's time. If killer is not chasing you, do gens.
What is different between Nurse and other killers? If you play well, you will win with any killer. If you play bad, you will lose even with Nurse. And that game is PvP. So survivors can play better than killer. Survivors defeated Nurse in some tournaments and if you are thinking those Nurses were bad :d They were not but survivors played better.
So you can beat good Nurses if you play better than her. Nurse is not undefeatable killer, DbD has not killer like that.
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I agree with the add ons but I'm okay with her basekit power.
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"but still got stuck somewhere around rank 8 till i actually learned the fundamentals of the killer gameplay. She is not boosting anyone who is just bad at the game."
This is exactly what I meant with Spirit boosting players. By rank 8 playing any other killer would have already forced you to get through fundamentals. Spirit gets around that by just being extremely oppressive.
"She also barely has any map pressure if you don't play with duration add ons, as using your power for traversal means you can't use it for chase immediately."
Which is why people dont really use her power fully for traversing the map unless its absolutely neccesary. Besides that, once you do have your power back, you can easily use her power for burst moments to easily get hits with minimal recovery. So with full power depletion without addons, you'd have 15 seconds of normal 110% chase, but after that she's an easy gap closer. It's quicker for her to use her power for 3 seconds to close the gap and wait 9 seconds for another one, then it is to just close the gap by walking.
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They need to buff all the other killers to Spirit level, then balance the game around that..,,.
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Even though I'm killer main, spirit and nurse are OP. I think buff of other killer should be good as well
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but survivors are allowed to run I am never going to die perks with no counter play for the killer, who mind you has to micromanage more than just gens and pallets. All the killers you have mentioned have been nerfed extremely. They have no agency in how dictating how survivors need to play. The nurse could be THE ONLY exception just because they cannot rework her entire power or they will lose a chunk of their player base. The game is supposed to be shifted in the killers favor there are 4 of you and one killer who can only chase one person. What's stopping the three other people from completing objectives? This is why if we nerf the spirit we are effectively saying that survivors need another buff on top of what decent survivors are already capable of. Yes you get your few newbie survivors but we need a limit on how high player account should be before hitting live servers to play so they have a better idea what to do, and maybe give them a million bp so they can fully get perks. The Spirit is fine. There is nothing wrong with her literally walk away if you have trouble camping the pallet, or don't be predictable, or use different perks that could help you like idk IRON WILL that literally counters every spirit player and is constantly talked about on here how unfair it is for spirit mains.
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I agree with you there are tools learn to use them rather than complaining and hoping the game will conform to your skill level, you win you lose. The game will go on it has for 5 years. The only thing that needs tweaking is gen speeds or number of gens needed to be completed, or map size one of those fixes would solve 99% of our problems in game and increase game health.
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She's fine, people need to git gud and should probably learn how to play her. I employ that knowledge when I play against her and I'm doing just fine.
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i highly recommend to rework Wraith to be honest. pro wraith are becoming more aggressive, which even uncloaking IN FRONT of you is not even a bother due to their uncloaking insta-speed boost. once you got cornered on a dead space, its already a free hit for wraith. The common gameplay for wraith is to be stealthy by hiding at corners of wall then suprise lounge; he even has an ADD ON for that.
Wraith are even better than spirit to be honest; with his now buffed true invisibility, he is a stealthy as spirit, capable of body blocking vaults and pallets, faster speed during cloaked, and can be even faster with add ons, wraith has become more versatile than spirit. at least spirit has a terror radius during phase, which makes her presence known. Wraith doesnt have during cloak. his sounds are very faint, you can only hear him around 5 meters, which is too near. comparing to TWINS, victor's shrieks can be heard far enough for a survivor to react.
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actually you can outplay her. spirit mains tends to fake phase then true phase with a gameplay, they need to see where youre supposed to go. if you have decided where, they will phase then surprise you going on the same direction. on grassy maps, try to walk on no-grass parts. crouching will make your moan a little bit softer. spirit uses scratch marks and sounds when phasing. she is one of the slowest killers in the game, but faster during phase. it may be a bad strategy, but you could pre-drop a pallet to force her out of phase. when fake phasing, you try flashing her with flashlight, theres a sound cue for flashlight if its not working or not, if not, she already on phase.
but with spirit, you need to play with 200 IQ, just imagine still being in a chase, but with a ghost. you need to predict what she will do when you go to window or pallet; is she going around the pallet? is she commting to hitting you through window? something like that.
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Wraith stronger than Spirit?
Wait what?
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