If killer camp my friends, i will take the game hostage no matter what

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  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    I do believe they said that console bans would be coming soon™ so that anyone breaking the rules can be more easily punished.

  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    https://youtu.be/QeWJcSWe-_0

    There is a whole playlist there. He get camped, in other playlist too. Every camp get punished hard
  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    The_Crusader said:
    Orion said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    I'm curious how survivors manage to "take the game hostage" without cheating i.e. getting into places the killer can't reach.

    I mean if you're just crouching around the map or waiting at the exit gates you're not doing anything the killer can't sort out.

    I'm curious how you think pretending not to know helps your case in any way. You're still the bad guy for taking the game hostage.

    Taking the gane hostage nornally means killers bodyblocking survivors in the basement. That's a situation where those players can't do anything other than disconnect.

    If the survivors are waiting at the exit the killer can easily do something about it. Just walk up and hit them, then they flee. Takes 30 seconds of their time most are just too proud to do it.

    So again tell me how survivors can hold the game hostage without cheating? Because off the top of my head I can't think of anything.
    First off. Normally. Not always. 

    Second, your example went from sneaking around the map to being in exit gates. 

    Just stop dude....
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    The_Crusader said:
    Orion said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    I'm curious how survivors manage to "take the game hostage" without cheating i.e. getting into places the killer can't reach.

    I mean if you're just crouching around the map or waiting at the exit gates you're not doing anything the killer can't sort out.

    I'm curious how you think pretending not to know helps your case in any way. You're still the bad guy for taking the game hostage.

    Taking the gane hostage nornally means killers bodyblocking survivors in the basement. That's a situation where those players can't do anything other than disconnect.

    If the survivors are waiting at the exit the killer can easily do something about it. Just walk up and hit them, then they flee. Takes 30 seconds of their time most are just too proud to do it.

    So again tell me how survivors can hold the game hostage without cheating? Because off the top of my head I can't think of anything.
    By refusing to leave?
    Hide whenever you hear the heartbeat?

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @SoylentPixie said:
    Ugh, every time i get slightly annoyed when all survivors are labelled as entitled or toxic, a thread like this comes along as well as it's supporters and once again I understand WHY killers get pissed off. Don't get me wrong, the killer side aren't all angels, but some of the stuff 'attempting' to be justified here is just freaking hilarious.....and eventually just a little bit sad.

    At the end of the day you play how you want to play, just don't be surprised when admitting you will perform a bannable offence on the forums, leads to an actual ban.

    There's proving a point and then there is stupidity. You do you.

    These threads are why people say Survivors are entitled and toxic. These two people represent the majority of Survivor attitudes that Killers are expected to put up with. The label is a stereotype, true, but it's a stereotype based on reality.

  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192

    @Orion said:

    @SoylentPixie said:
    Ugh, every time i get slightly annoyed when all survivors are labelled as entitled or toxic, a thread like this comes along as well as it's supporters and once again I understand WHY killers get pissed off. Don't get me wrong, the killer side aren't all angels, but some of the stuff 'attempting' to be justified here is just freaking hilarious.....and eventually just a little bit sad.

    At the end of the day you play how you want to play, just don't be surprised when admitting you will perform a bannable offence on the forums, leads to an actual ban.

    There's proving a point and then there is stupidity. You do you.

    These threads are why people say Survivors are entitled and toxic. These two people represent the majority of Survivor attitudes that Killers are expected to put up with. The label is a stereotype, true, but it's a stereotype based on reality.

    I'm aware, the reasoning isn't lost on me.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @SoylentPixie said:

    @Orion said:

    @SoylentPixie said:
    Ugh, every time i get slightly annoyed when all survivors are labelled as entitled or toxic, a thread like this comes along as well as it's supporters and once again I understand WHY killers get pissed off. Don't get me wrong, the killer side aren't all angels, but some of the stuff 'attempting' to be justified here is just freaking hilarious.....and eventually just a little bit sad.

    At the end of the day you play how you want to play, just don't be surprised when admitting you will perform a bannable offence on the forums, leads to an actual ban.

    There's proving a point and then there is stupidity. You do you.

    These threads are why people say Survivors are entitled and toxic. These two people represent the majority of Survivor attitudes that Killers are expected to put up with. The label is a stereotype, true, but it's a stereotype based on reality.

    I'm aware, the reasoning isn't lost on me.

    I just wanted to make it perfectly clear to you and anyone else who reads this thread that Killer complaints about Survivor attitudes are not due to the stereotypical "snowflake Killer" myth that's spread around by Survivors like the OP. There's a very real problem with Survivor attitudes, and this thread is a perfect depiction of it.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    @The_Crusader said:
    Orion said:

    @The_Crusader said:

    I can take the hatch without killer knowing - or I give the killer a chance to win s hatch standoff. Seems I'm actually doing them a favour.

    And I'd argue its killers who hold the game hostage. When they canp nobody gets any meaningful points. Its denying the other players a proper game.

    Stop defending crappy behaviour. Losing points for staying near the hook, borrowed time changes...you think you'd accept that it's not the intended way to play by now.

    The Killer cannot win the hatch standoff and you know it. Stop pretending you're not being toxic.

    Camped Survivors eventually die. That's not holding the game hostage.

    I hope you didn't buy any DLC, because when bans come out on console, you'll definitely be on the chopping block.

    The killer CAN win a hatch standoff. I've won it before.

    I could take the hatch and get away - offer the killer a chance to grab me. I'm actually doing them a favour. Again they could end it at ANY TIME by hitting me, THEY choose to stand there.

    Standing in exit gates - again all they have to do is walk up and whack the survivor. Not hard at all.

    None of that is holding the game hostage at all. We've been over the exit gates thing before. None of this is holding the game hostage like say blocking the basement stairs bevause the killer can easily stop it at any time. So no, there won't be a ban my friend.

    Enjoy the new borrowed time btw :) I'll be bringing it every game. You're going to have to work harder for your camps.

    people like you are the reason why so many see the term "survivor main" as something negative.

    i will stick with @Orion in this one. You were toxic and you knew it, yet you are trying to find approval by posting this on the forums.

    no one likes ppl who do this #########, deal with that.

  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192
    edited December 2018

    @Orion said:

    @SoylentPixie said:

    @Orion said:

    @SoylentPixie said:
    Ugh, every time i get slightly annoyed when all survivors are labelled as entitled or toxic, a thread like this comes along as well as it's supporters and once again I understand WHY killers get pissed off. Don't get me wrong, the killer side aren't all angels, but some of the stuff 'attempting' to be justified here is just freaking hilarious.....and eventually just a little bit sad.

    At the end of the day you play how you want to play, just don't be surprised when admitting you will perform a bannable offence on the forums, leads to an actual ban.

    There's proving a point and then there is stupidity. You do you.

    These threads are why people say Survivors are entitled and toxic. These two people represent the majority of Survivor attitudes that Killers are expected to put up with. The label is a stereotype, true, but it's a stereotype based on reality.

    I'm aware, the reasoning isn't lost on me.

    I just wanted to make it perfectly clear to you and anyone else who reads this thread that Killer complaints about Survivor attitudes are not due to the stereotypical "snowflake Killer" myth that's spread around by Survivors like the OP. There's a very real problem with Survivor attitudes, and this thread is a perfect depiction of iT

    Again, kinda covered it in my post. Have also called out my own sides bulls**t on many occasions. As an actual survivor main, it can get very wearing to think you are included in such descriptions because of the bad apples. But again, the proof keeps coming and with it, the understanding.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @The_Crusader said:

    So again tell me how survivors can hold the game hostage without cheating? Because off the top of my head I can't think of anything.

    You can basically play hide and seek and if there's more than 1 person doing it with say bond in both exit gates you can easily do it. If the killer doesn't have NOED or it's not permanent Evil III Myers they can just sit safely inside or near the exit gates.

    The sneakiest person and also probably the one wIth SB/UE/Fleet Footwork and w/e perks helps can roam the map always hiding from the killer. They can do that solo or with anyone that they play with.

    So both sides can and do take the game hostage and both sides are breaking the rules and can be punished for doing so.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @SoylentPixie said:

    @Orion said:

    @SoylentPixie said:

    @Orion said:

    @SoylentPixie said:
    Ugh, every time i get slightly annoyed when all survivors are labelled as entitled or toxic, a thread like this comes along as well as it's supporters and once again I understand WHY killers get pissed off. Don't get me wrong, the killer side aren't all angels, but some of the stuff 'attempting' to be justified here is just freaking hilarious.....and eventually just a little bit sad.

    At the end of the day you play how you want to play, just don't be surprised when admitting you will perform a bannable offence on the forums, leads to an actual ban.

    There's proving a point and then there is stupidity. You do you.

    These threads are why people say Survivors are entitled and toxic. These two people represent the majority of Survivor attitudes that Killers are expected to put up with. The label is a stereotype, true, but it's a stereotype based on reality.

    I'm aware, the reasoning isn't lost on me.

    I just wanted to make it perfectly clear to you and anyone else who reads this thread that Killer complaints about Survivor attitudes are not due to the stereotypical "snowflake Killer" myth that's spread around by Survivors like the OP. There's a very real problem with Survivor attitudes, and this thread is a perfect depiction of iT

    Again, kinda covered it in my post. Have also called out my own sides bulls**t on many occasions. As an actual survivor main, it can get very wearing to think you are included in such descriptions because of the bad apples. But again, the proof keeps coming and with it, the understanding.

    I got that, but like I said, this is also for anyone who reads this thread.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited December 2018
    powerbats said:

    @The_Crusader said:

    So again tell me how survivors can hold the game hostage without cheating? Because off the top of my head I can't think of anything.

    You can basically play hide and seek and if there's more than 1 person doing it with say bond in both exit gates you can easily do it. If the killer doesn't have NOED or it's not permanent Evil III Myers they can just sit safely inside or near the exit gates.

    The sneakiest person and also probably the one wIth SB/UE/Fleet Footwork and w/e perks helps can roam the map always hiding from the killer. They can do that solo or with anyone that they play with.

    So both sides can and do take the game hostage and both sides are breaking the rules and can be punished for doing so.

    The killer can still do something about it.

    Still I dont go that far. I just stand at the exit gates tbagging until they force me out. It hurts their pride.

    But again I ONLY do this to hard camping killers. The kind who hook their first guy and refuse to move. I never do it to normal killers.

    I don't see how you can facecamp a guy and then act shocked when survivors get salty in return.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Mister_xD said:
    people like you are the reason of why there is such a huge war between the killer and survivor community in the first place, so do me a favor and delete your DbD account, thank you very much.
    i do not want players like you in my game.

    In the other thread he's now claiming that he plays Killer exclusively. Simultaneously, in defiance of basic logic, he also somehow encounters campers every time and trolls them. Either he's suffering from MPD or he's playing by himself.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    @Orion said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    people like you are the reason of why there is such a huge war between the killer and survivor community in the first place, so do me a favor and delete your DbD account, thank you very much.
    i do not want players like you in my game.

    In the other thread he's now claiming that he plays Killer exclusively. Simultaneously, in defiance of basic logic, he also somehow encounters campers every time and trolls them. Either he's suffering from MPD or he's playing by himself.

    i cant understand ppl like him...
    just... why would they do Bs like that?

    also, can you report him for offically supporting bannable behaviour (taking the game hostage)?
    just curious...

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Mister_xD said:

    @Orion said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    people like you are the reason of why there is such a huge war between the killer and survivor community in the first place, so do me a favor and delete your DbD account, thank you very much.
    i do not want players like you in my game.

    In the other thread he's now claiming that he plays Killer exclusively. Simultaneously, in defiance of basic logic, he also somehow encounters campers every time and trolls them. Either he's suffering from MPD or he's playing by himself.

    i cant understand ppl like him...
    just... why would they do Bs like that?

    also, can you report him for offically supporting bannable behaviour (taking the game hostage)?
    just curious...

    You can report for anything. Whether it's bannable is a different thing altogether. I think advertising bannable behavior is, in itself, bannable, but that's just me.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @The_Crusader said:
    Actually no, people like you are the reason why there's such a huge war between the survivor and killer community.

    I love how you say "nothing but piss me off the whole game". - WE DID NOTHING WRONG!!

    Thats the point. Many of us survivors don't tbag, we don't sabo hooks etc etc but people like you facecamp people out of the game. Then act shocked when we start tbagging in return.

    I said I only tbag AFTER the killer starts camping. They start the toxic behaviour.

    And you know what I do if I walk to the hatch and see a survivor on it? I hit them. Takes me 2 seconds and I save myself 10 minutes. Shocking concept I know.

    Anyway im done with you. Like all killer mains here you think its fine for killers to play toxic and then start verbally insulting me by calling me a "toxic little ****" just because we get revenge. You are so entitled and petty.

    Revenge for the problem you caused? Yes, you are part of the problem. When the game was released, everyone knew what to do in case of a camper: rush gens. Nowadays you do the thing that camping is designed to counter (reckless rescues) and blame the Killer that it didn't work. In other words, you act like you're entitled to free rescues.
    What a surprise! Who knew that if you use scissors against rock, you will lose every single time. (Not my analogy, but it is a beautiful analogy that should be used every time in regards to camping complaints)
    Survivors caused this problem. Thanks to them, camping pays off 9 times out of 10. You are part of the problem if you think being toxic helps in any way.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @The_Crusader said:
    I love how on this forum...

    If a survivor tbags, you camp them and it's perfectly ok. ( And I agree with that, I've camped a tbagger before).

    But if a killer camps and survivors tbag in return its MODS BAN PLZ!!! THIS IS SOO TOXIC!!

    The fact that you can't see the hypocrisy is really worrying.

    Sweetie, we're discussing holding the game hostage. Were you confused?
    You don't know DbD's history or how camping became a problem, so you lack the necessary context for understanding why the blame lies solely with the Survivors.

  • The_Daydreamer
    The_Daydreamer Member Posts: 744

    Uff, that topic is dangerous.

    I just want to say a few things as I play mostly killer at the time even tho I am more a survivor-player.
    I can really understand that camping can be annoying. But it depends on the situation. So please don't overall tell anyone that "camping" is the worst.

    Most of the time I face ultra altruistic survivors. Many of them just want their stacks or anything like that. So tell me why should I completely leave that Area, if they rush to the hook? It wouldn't be smart. If I dont see anyone I leave the hooked person.
    But everytime I see one or two persons near the hook or a OoO-Survivors trys to bait me away I start to camp.

    And I face DS and instaheals all the time. The survivors doesnt give a damn about the killers fun. So I dont care either about them and just do whatever is right in my opinion depending on the situation.

    And about hatch standoff: Come on people - If thats the last person just stop acting like a greedy victim and give that person the hatch.
    But if the exit gates are open and the survivor is damn greedy and stands their for an hour, then record that match and send it to the support.

    People needs to stop acting like everyone has to follow any kind of rule.
    Survivors gonna play like they want to and killers do the same.
    Im not an angle. If I see someone uses DS or OoO I am instantly triggered and play like a dick against that people even tho its ultra childish. But for me that perks are ruining my fun. The same with people that ignore my presence and farm the survivor of the hook. I facecamp that farming dick.
    But thats the problem of some players. Their are rules outwhere that doesnt should exist.

    I hope we can all improve our attitude and play style.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @The_Crusader said:
    - Killer puts survvior on hook

    • Killer stands next to hook for a few minutes

    • ITZ THE SURVIV0RZ GUYS!!! THEY MADE ME DO IT!!!! :l:lol:

    Have you considered stand-up?

    Like I said, you lack the proper context and knowledge because you're too new.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    The_Daydreamer said:

    Uff, that topic is dangerous.

    I just want to say a few things as I play mostly killer at the time even tho I am more a survivor-player.
    I can really understand that camping can be annoying. But it depends on the situation. So please don't overall tell anyone that "camping" is the worst.

    Most of the time I face ultra altruistic survivors. Many of them just want their stacks or anything like that. So tell me why should I completely leave that Area, if they rush to the hook? It wouldn't be smart. If I dont see anyone I leave the hooked person.
    But everytime I see one or two persons near the hook or a OoO-Survivors trys to bait me away I start to camp.

    And I face DS and instaheals all the time. The survivors doesnt give a damn about the killers fun. So I dont care either about them and just do whatever is right in my opinion depending on the situation.

    And about hatch standoff: Come on people - If thats the last person just stop acting like a greedy victim and give that person the hatch.
    But if the exit gates are open and the survivor is damn greedy and stands their for an hour, then record that match and send it to the support.

    People needs to stop acting like everyone has to follow any kind of rule.
    Survivors gonna play like they want to and killers do the same.
    Im not an angle. If I see someone uses DS or OoO I am instantly triggered and play like a dick against that people even tho its ultra childish. But for me that perks are ruining my fun. The same with people that ignore my presence and farm the survivor of the hook. I facecamp that farming dick.
    But thats the problem of some players. Their are rules outwhere that doesnt should exist.

    I hope we can all improve our attitude and play style.

    And that I can agree with. OoO in a 4 man need to be quickly kicked out of the game because they're compromising yohr position at every turn.

    Also rushing unhooks...if I think its solo players and they unhook right in front of me then I punish whoever unhooked. Because I know how it feels to be farmed and its why a lot of people rage quit.

    If its a 4 man though and you can tell because they all have clan names then I sturn around and go for any of them. To me the hook buys you a little bit of time. If they're going to unhook ehne I've only walked 10 metres away then yeah that needs to be punished because the quick unhooks are getting the survivors back on gens too fast.

    What ive been talking about is killers who lut survivors on hooks and then just sit there until that survivor is dead. Many of them dont even care, rhey just want their daily. Thats not about rusbing unhooks its about ruining the game for others or being too lazy to play any other way.
  • The_Daydreamer
    The_Daydreamer Member Posts: 744

    @The_Crusader said:
    What ive been talking about is killers who lut survivors on hooks and then just sit there until that survivor is dead. Many of them dont even care, rhey just want their daily. Thats not about rusbing unhooks its about ruining the game for others or being too lazy to play any other way.

    The old facecamping was a problem now it isnt anymore that big of a deal.
    Its definitely unfun, I can completely agree with that. But I think that are things that we have to deal with.
    Rush gens and end that bad trial. It sucks, thats true. But just wait until the new patch is out and Borrowed Time is gonna get loved by all those killers.
    (Thats gonna be fun to deal with, uff)

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