Nemesis deffault kit is too strong.

Lmao people do gens as fast as possible no matter who the killer is. Let's not pretend most survivors have any interest in actually engaging the killer or being chased or going near danger.

That said, I disagree with everything except the limited vaccines. I think it's ridiculous, I think he could have been made better to where he wouldn't need zombies or infecting people, at least not the infection type we have. An Oni/Slinger/Plague hybrid would have sufficed. He could dash around the map for pressure, obviously using meter, which fills with successful attacks. Once it reaches tier 2, you can grab a survivor with your tentacle and infect them, where they would be able to vaccinate at set places on the map, ala Plague. Once he reaches tier 3, he could grab with tentacle and dash toward and instadown, using all meter and having him start over at tier 1. No add-ons to prolong instadown, only to tier up slightly faster, have survivor infection (which could lead to death) advance faster, dash speed, etc.

weak bait; 2.5/10

I like his zombies. They’re fun. But MAN he really doesn’t need them, at least if he doesn’t just go with his base perks. In the last day I’ve had trouble completing multiple gens, opening a gate, and was even downed immediately after being taken off of a hook. The pests are veritable mobile slowdown perks, lol.

Ok I don't see him as being that strong. I don't think he needs the zombies to be effective.

This is a better idea than the others I've seen so far but we already have enough killers that dash. I think if he infects someone they should build that infection up over time. If it builds up then Nemesis has a free down on that survivor until they vaccinate themselves. After vaccination the infection should slowly decrease in time and until it does that survivor is broken.

It's a bit like plague but his power is centered on the T-Virus, so you have to make it work somehow.

I think Nemesis is fine the way he is but I wouldn't be upset with something like this.

why dont you just get good

lool are you kidding me ? he is super damn weak, zombies are not strong at all, you gotta calculate how often do they actually do something in a game not when it actually happens and it's very rare for them to do anything in most games.

huntress+deathslinger ( which can still be looped for 3-5 gens ) at least can counter shack, double windows, and all strong loops in general and also can mess up survivor movement by right clicking and scaring them and also have a lower terror radius especially on Deathslinger with monitor and abuse and they even have much stronger addons than nemesis in general and have insane range attacks, when nemesis only gets 5% m.s increase and 2 almost useless zombies that are glitching a lot of the time ( and that i've seen them do nothing in like 70%+ of the games i've watched especially in open maps ) and thirdly he breaks pallets abit faster but that's after some time and he is still slowed down quite a lot when he does it, so these killers are obviously way stronger than him and they are even stronger than that because nemesis needs 3 hits to down survivors ! and gives survivors 2 sprints bursts instead of 1!! ( which can waste the killer time by an extra 20 seconds by just holding w and that's with out any looping being done ) and his attack range is like 4 meters or 5, do i need to go on ? well he is taller than other killers so he is easier to counter in certain loops so here you go, oh one last thing btw don't mention the level 3 thingy cause its just an extra 1 meter and u get it when the game is basically over so it basically does nothing at all.

so yes he is very weak and C tier, but not so good survivors likes to complain about everything like always i guess.

I played as and against nemesis, and the coughing is so obsolete... like you cough only every 2 minutes maybe?, and when I was playing as Nemesis, I never ever heard a survivor coughing, so it is not a game changer at all.

Compared to the plague, coughing is way more stronger.

And nemesis cant attack THROUGH obstacles but over obstacles only... he cannot reach a survivor from another side of a high wall as an exemple.

Also, zombies a real slow, only two of them on the map (outdoor maps they get so weak that it is almost a joke unless Nemy is good enough to mindgame you to a loop where a zombie is wandering)

The only real thing that is annoying with Nemesis's zombies is the collision with them, I mean if they hit you, they should remove the collision so you can pass through them, exactly like with a killer hit. Because in indoor maps, they can literally block you mid chase in sandwich with the killer behind. But that's all, Nemesis basekit is not TOO strong at all it is not OP nor really-bad-trickster-be-like. It is just very well balanced IMO.