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The Legion Buff you can’t possibly find unfair.

DarkWo1f997
DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
edited December 2018 in General Discussions
While his ability is 100% charged, his movement speed sits at 115% (average killer speed). (Speed of trapper and pig) 


I would prefer 115% at all times though. 
Post edited by DarkWo1f997 on

Comments

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    edited December 2018
    You are right, i don't think it's unfair.
    Btw, someone told me you are on ps4 now :p
  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    This is not unfair because the killer wont be breathing so heavy, but yet this may be off topic a little bit but before the exhaust nerf, I thought of while exhausted you move at 95% speed, and

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    Vietfox said:
    You are right, i don't think it's unfair.
    Btw, someone told me you are on ps4 now :p
    Nope. I’m on Xbox still lol. 
  • Judgement
    Judgement Member Posts: 955

    I was actually thinking about making a post for buffing The Spirit with this same kind of idea, in that she should be able to move at 115% when her power is fully charged, to allow the Killer to make a choice between committing to an M1 chase or mindgaming with the power and becoming slowed as a result of using it.
    It makes sense considering when the power's depleted you could call the Killer 'fatigued' and as a result they'd be slowed down until they fully recover and then can run at full speed.

  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176

    Sounds pretty good to me :)

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears”
  • BabyKillerTears
    BabyKillerTears Member Posts: 24

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears”

    He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    edited December 2018
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears”

    He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

    Well his power doesn’t even give a 40% chance of a down like it should. I just need that timer to be a little shorter, mending is already easy and quick and progression is saved on the bar.

    If the power had a decent chance at downing a survivor when I turned my back to them I’d be 100% fine. But the thing is, at rank 1, no one will go down from the power.

     I wish mending had moderately difficult skillchecks or something. It feels like right now, like pig’s beartraps coming off at any and every box on the first try no matter what. 

    I dont want guaranteed downs, but I don’t want to waste my time doing nothing either. 
  • BabyKillerTears
    BabyKillerTears Member Posts: 24

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears”

    He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

    Well his power doesn’t even give a 40% chance of a down like it should. I just need that timer to be a little shorter, mending is already easy and quick and progression is saved on the bar. 

    While mending should be longer, I think the timer should go down during a chase but like really slow and when out of a chase it goes down at a normal or faster speed

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears”

    He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

    Well his power doesn’t even give a 40% chance of a down like it should. I just need that timer to be a little shorter, mending is already easy and quick and progression is saved on the bar. 

    While mending should be longer, I think the timer should go down during a chase but like really slow and when out of a chase it goes down at a normal or faster speed

    That would be nice. But I’d really like it if I could hit them, move on to the next target, and have like a 40% chance to down them. 
  • BabyKillerTears
    BabyKillerTears Member Posts: 24

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears”



He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

    Well his power doesn’t even give a 40% chance of a down like it should. I just need that timer to be a little shorter, mending is already easy and quick and progression is saved on the bar. 

    While mending should be longer, I think the timer should go down during a chase but like really slow and when out of a chase it goes down at a normal or faster speed

    That would be nice. But I’d really like it if I could hit them, move on to the next target, and have like a 40% chance to down them. 

    It seems the devs wanted his play style to be like a hit and run kind of killer. But right now he gains no reward from actually hitting all 4 survivors or moving onto the next target. What if for every new target you hit every survivor that already has deep wounds applied will have their timer decreased by 25% (might be affected by addons idk)

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears”



He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

    Well his power doesn’t even give a 40% chance of a down like it should. I just need that timer to be a little shorter, mending is already easy and quick and progression is saved on the bar. 

    While mending should be longer, I think the timer should go down during a chase but like really slow and when out of a chase it goes down at a normal or faster speed

    That would be nice. But I’d really like it if I could hit them, move on to the next target, and have like a 40% chance to down them. 

    It seems the devs wanted his play style to be like a hit and run kind of killer. But right now he gains no reward from actually hitting all 4 survivors or moving onto the next target. What if for every new target you hit every survivor that already has deep wounds applied will have their timer decreased by 25% (might be affected by addons idk)

    Oh! What if it behaved similar to thanatophobia! The more survivors that are effected by deep wounds, the faster the timer! 
  • BabyKillerTears
    BabyKillerTears Member Posts: 24

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said: BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears” He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

    Well his power doesn’t even give a 40% chance of a down like it should. I just need that timer to be a little shorter, mending is already easy and quick and progression is saved on the bar. 



While mending should be longer, I think the timer should go down during a chase but like really slow and when out of a chase it goes down at a normal or faster speed

    That would be nice. But I’d really like it if I could hit them, move on to the next target, and have like a 40% chance to down them. 

    It seems the devs wanted his play style to be like a hit and run kind of killer. But right now he gains no reward from actually hitting all 4 survivors or moving onto the next target. What if for every new target you hit every survivor that already has deep wounds applied will have their timer decreased by 25% (might be affected by addons idk)

    Oh! What if it behaved similar to thanatophobia! The more survivors that are effected by deep wounds, the faster the timer! 

    That would be a great buff!!! Maybe mending could be affected by Thanataphobia as well? Not sloppy or Nurses though as devs already said they didn't want those to affect mending but thanataphobia's numbers are pretty low so they would help out a bit

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said: BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears” He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

    Well his power doesn’t even give a 40% chance of a down like it should. I just need that timer to be a little shorter, mending is already easy and quick and progression is saved on the bar. 



While mending should be longer, I think the timer should go down during a chase but like really slow and when out of a chase it goes down at a normal or faster speed

    That would be nice. But I’d really like it if I could hit them, move on to the next target, and have like a 40% chance to down them. 

    It seems the devs wanted his play style to be like a hit and run kind of killer. But right now he gains no reward from actually hitting all 4 survivors or moving onto the next target. What if for every new target you hit every survivor that already has deep wounds applied will have their timer decreased by 25% (might be affected by addons idk)

    Oh! What if it behaved similar to thanatophobia! The more survivors that are effected by deep wounds, the faster the timer! 

    That would be a great buff!!! Maybe mending could be affected by Thanataphobia as well? Not sloppy or Nurses though as devs already said they didn't want those to affect mending but thanataphobia's numbers are pretty low so they would help out a bit

    Yeah, OR maybe their bleedout bar after mending will be set to 25% until they heal completely. 
  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    @Peanits @MandyTalk we’ve got a really good conversation going here. 
  • BabyKillerTears
    BabyKillerTears Member Posts: 24

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said: BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:    BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears”        He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

    Well his power doesn’t even give a 40% chance of a down like it should. I just need that timer to be a little shorter, mending is already easy and quick and progression is saved on the bar.  While mending should be longer, I think the timer should go down during a chase but like really slow and when out of a chase it goes down at a normal or faster speed

    That would be nice. But I’d really like it if I could hit them, move on to the next target, and have like a 40% chance to down them. 



It seems the devs wanted his play style to be like a hit and run kind of killer. But right now he gains no reward from actually hitting all 4 survivors or moving onto the next target. What if for every new target you hit every survivor that already has deep wounds applied will have their timer decreased by 25% (might be affected by addons idk)

    Oh! What if it behaved similar to thanatophobia! The more survivors that are effected by deep wounds, the faster the timer! 

    That would be a great buff!!! Maybe mending could be affected by Thanataphobia as well? Not sloppy or Nurses though as devs already said they didn't want those to affect mending but thanataphobia's numbers are pretty low so they would help out a bit

    Yeah, OR maybe their bleedout bar after mending will be set to 25% until they heal completely. 

    Ooo, yeah that could work too since right now people don't heal against them so basically force them to heal or suffer the consequences, I like it! So a good perk build for him could be Monitor and abuse or distressing, maybe bloodhound, thanataphobia because people don't want to heal against him and therefore punishing them a little and for the last perk any perk would work that's not insidious, monstrous shrine, or surveillance.

  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

BabyKillerTears said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said: BabyKillerTears said:

    Dud, he's perfectly fine where he is now you're just not using him right

    I should change my name to “ObviousClaudetteBaitTears” He is pretty powerful already though, being able to ignore survivor defenses is pretty strong. Devs already said they don't want to change movement speed and this would just make him an M1 killer. He should rely on his power to get the downs. Also what does my name have to do with this?

    Well his power doesn’t even give a 40% chance of a down like it should. I just need that timer to be a little shorter, mending is already easy and quick and progression is saved on the bar. 



While mending should be longer, I think the timer should go down during a chase but like really slow and when out of a chase it goes down at a normal or faster speed

    That would be nice. But I’d really like it if I could hit them, move on to the next target, and have like a 40% chance to down them. 

    It seems the devs wanted his play style to be like a hit and run kind of killer. But right now he gains no reward from actually hitting all 4 survivors or moving onto the next target. What if for every new target you hit every survivor that already has deep wounds applied will have their timer decreased by 25% (might be affected by addons idk)

    Oh! What if it behaved similar to thanatophobia! The more survivors that are effected by deep wounds, the faster the timer! 

    Sorry about just barging into this conversation but I think that would work pretty well. I see @BabyKillerTears is also coming up with some nice buff ideas. I think legion needs deep wounds fixed though as I don't think he's necessarily weak, I think it's just that deep wounds really makes him feel less powerful.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,850

    I don't think it's a terrible idea, but I would rather see them work around his ability more.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    DarkWo1f997 said:
    Vietfox said:
    You are right, i don't think it's unfair.
    Btw, someone told me you are on ps4 now :p
    Nope. I’m on Xbox still lol. 
    Aye, wish we could play together lol.

    I like your idea! :)
  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    All I'm going to say about The Legion is that during Thanksgiving he is sitting with Freddy at the kiddie table.

  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Vietfox said:

    You are right, i don't think it's unfair.
    Btw, someone told me you are on ps4 now :p

    Nope. I’m on Xbox still lol. 

    I feel like I have played with you before.....

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    alivebydeadight said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Vietfox said:

    You are right, i don't think it's unfair.
    Btw, someone told me you are on ps4 now :p

    Nope. I’m on Xbox still lol. 

    I feel like I have played with you before.....

    Probably have. I usually affectionately message everyone post-match with “Oink Oink” 
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    I gave up on legion already.

    just let him rest in peace, but PLEASE fix deep wounds such that BT doesnt become OP
    thx

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    @Janick what do you think of this? 
  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    A chase should last MAX 40 seconds, legion cannot down you within 40 secs with his power alone unless you're using very good addons.