Which killer perks need to be nerfed, in your opinion?

Starstruck has my current hate, especially with Distressing and smaller and smaller maps. I don't even hear the TR and still get exposed.

Oni, Billy, to a lesser extent Nurse. If you think its a meme perk wewlad you must be new here.

I am new here. That is why I asked. I do not use Oni, Billy, or Nurse. Nemesis is the first non-M1 killer that I've really played. I started with Trapper until I decided I liked the game enough to buy Michael, and now I'm learning Ghostface on the side. I'm planning to learn Nemesis and maybe Nurse.

For some reason, I thought that IF was M1-only. Apparently, it's not, but I still think it'd be a waste of a perk slot in most cases unless you're trying to slug.

but it also stops the killer from patrolling around the first person since they are usually away within seconds counteracting the amount of pressure they would have gained camping / proxy camping one person and shifting into a more acceptable pressure that survivors are ok with unlike camping which is just chasing another survivor

restated in that format do you still think it should be nerfed

NOED and Rancor.

Sorry for the book, I'm very passionate about NOED being a solo queue destroyer. Understandable if you don't read, I don't blame you. ❤

I agree and while we're at it, make NOED even stronger since SWF or not, you have no excuse to not have totems done.

Soul Guard, Unbreakable, Power Struggle [paired with Flip-Flop] is countered by simply not slugging. That takes only 3 seconds to do after recovering from a successful attack by pressing Pick Up. Let's say you need to slug, you have exactly 32 seconds [23.70 secs with Unbreakable] to do whatever you need to do and get back for the pick up. If you're in a situation where you're slugging multiple survivors, I don't think them recovering would even matter if you have such a tremendous amount of pressure. It would only matter in edge cases, but those are apparently the only ones killers seem to bring up when they talk about Unbreakable. However, they never talk about the other games where they didn't slug and made any survivor who were using the perk, have essentially 3 perks for the game.

As for DS, there's many conditions and a timer attached to it. Therefore, for you to get hit by DS:

• You gambled on them not having DS by picking them up
• Survivor's DS is active by meeting all requirements and the timer hasn't expired

It's very difficult to get hit by DS whereas NOED, it's almost impossible to avoid it unless you and your team throw the game. Solo queue really does make killer perks seem more powerful than they really are, but it's even worse for killer perks designed to destroy solo queue.

Anyways, as for combining perks such as DS and Unbreakable, that's all countered by not tunnelling then slugging unhooked survivors. You're essentially removing 2 perks for any survivor running this combo, which is very nice. Granted it removes your ability to slug / tunnel, it doesn't matter since they aren't required to win unless you're playing a low tier killer. However, at that point, our attention should be placed on making low tier killers better since killers shouldn't need to slug / tunnel to win. Key word, need.

Well, yeah, if you have a totem counter letting each and every survivor know how many totems are left, then you have no excuse to not have NOED deactivated by the last generator.

Before, without a totem counter, each and every survivor can use the solo queue excuse because they have no communication to know where they stand on totems.

None of them do.

Monstrous shrine. So op. My loooord.

Monstrous shrine. How is such an op and oppressive perk still allowed in the game? Just had a match against basement trapper and he was carried so hard by monstrous shrine it was disgusting. Free win because he brought that perk. When will brainless killers learn not to crutch on this unfun perk?

NOED would be the only one that really needs changing. I generally dislike the idea of a perk being able to heavily reward a killer for failing to defend generators. You can easily tell when someone has been carried to high ranks by it.

Sorry to burst your bubbles, but there is already s totem counter.

The fact that you don't want to run small fame is entirely up to you, if you want to a totem counter then just run that perk.

When i play as survivor I only play solo and on a rare occasion noed activates, and even then it is pretty easy to get rid off in most cases.

Right now there is zero excuse to talk about wanting a totem counter , because there is 1 but you refuse to run it.

And for the record, no i don't run it either.

But then again, i even run without perks and items and still get out trough the exit gates.

NOED-->Rework it to something else which rewards the Killer only if they did well during the game. Like, something extra for a Killer who played well, but did not do good enough. Not for someone who got 2 Hooks and then has a big Speedboost and Instadown, for basically nothing.

Ideas I liked:

• OhTofu-->Remove Hex-Status, NOED grants 1 Token for each Hook, each Token gives 0,5% Movement Speed once Gates are powered, after a certain amount of Tokens, it gains the Instadown as well.
• Otzdarva-->NOED grants a Token for every fresh Hook (up to a maximum of 4 at Tier 3), Survivors hit after all Gens are done are exposed, after downing a Survivor you lose 1 Token. All Tokens lost when the Hex is cleansed.

Both ideas are good, because they reward the Killer instead of giving them something for free. It also removes the big benefit for Campers, it just sucks that a camping Killer can get 1 guaranteed Kill because of the camping and will get another Kill due to NOED, because there is no time to do all Gens AND all Totems.

Tofus idea also removes the Hex-Status, which is great, because cleansing Dull Totems for a Perk the Killer might not even have is nonsense.

Insidious-->I dont know what, but just rework it into something else. I dont care if it is weak or strong afterwards, for me, it can be even weaker than Monstrous Shrine afterwards. It is already a very weak Perk, but just encourages a very unhealthy gamestyle, so it should really be changed.

Infectious Fright-->Either Basic Attack Requirement or something else. This Perk is a prime example of a badly designed Perk - it is almost useless on most of the Killers but can be too strong on some of them, mainly Nurse, Billy or (especially) Oni.. I dont really get why Perks like Surge or Knockout have Basic Attack Requirements, but Infectious Fright, which is way stronger, does not have this restriction. Like, it should not be possible that I play Billy and have 3 people slugged at the start of the game. They are not even able to get much distance, because the Terror Radius is still 32 meters and especially the high mobility Killers have no problem catching up.

Wishs, but wont happen:

Tinkerer-->It became a braindead Perk since its buff. But, I dont know what exactly should be done, because the Perk in itself is not too strong IMO. Also not high priority, certainly lower than the others I mentioned above.

BBQ-->Just something which requires the Killer to spread Hooks to get their Stacks. Something like they can only gain Stacks as long as all Survivors are alive, but then there should be something which prevents the Survivor from suiciding to deny Stacks. IMO it is really annoying that players can tunnel out a single Survivor at 5 Gens and still get a massive amount of BPs just due to BBQ. Especially since the BP-gain for Killers is already much higher than for Survivors.

Nope sorry mate,i play both side.

So to disappoint you.

The only killer perk i have a problem with is noed, the rest of the perks are fine and people are just whining about it because they want the killer to be their b itch and that they control what is happening during thale match

But if the killer does that, he will not get a advantage of the aura reading some people say should get nerfed. So in this case he wastes a perk slot for perk that gives some bonus bp, which doesn't affect the survivor at all.

Ruin is 100%/150%/200%

I don't blame some survivors with little hours that think some perks like pop are op. They have no killer experience.

Think about it. How long does a chase last, then you need to pick up the survivor and carry the guy to a hook. Then you need to run and find a gen with a lot of progress and pop it. Do you understand how many seconds it takes ?

A pop sets back the generator for only 20 seconds of normal repair progress, even if you don't count the time the chase took the killer, carrying the survivor and hooking him, then running to a gen and popping it takes more then 20 seconds.

Again, i can understand, if you have very bad survivors in your team, that go down very fast and feed the killer nonstop pop, the perk may feel very strong, but in reality it isnt.