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Why would anyone ever play Nemesis over Pyramind head, ever

Gamergirl69OWO
Gamergirl69OWO Member Posts: 73
edited June 2021 in General Discussions

I’ve been playing nemesis for about a week straight through all these bugs and lag and I can safely say he’s just a worse Pyramid head and a slightly better clown. He and clown suffer from the exact same problem, decent chase potential at the cost of horrendous map control. His zombies don’t make up for this at all as they can easily be rock stunned of snagged on random Geomentry; basically the zombie ai is bad and doesn’t really add much to nemesis. You will get a zombie being useful once a trial Maybe. Nemesis’s power is honestly just pyramid heads power but you have to build it up to be useful and it can’t hit through walls. Breaking pallets doesn’t help as pyramind can just hit through a wall. This is honestly a pathetic excuse for a Resident Evil chapter and I’m throughly disappointed in BHVR. This is the third chapter in a row that’s been disagreeing; a whole god damn year of basically no good content. You would think they would give half a ######### for what has to be one of their biggest chapters yet, but nooooooo. I’m sick of this #########, please get your act together BHVR.

Comments

  • miketheratguy
    miketheratguy Member Posts: 2,719

    Your avatar betrays your bias. :)

    In all seriousness I agree, Nemesis basically seems like an alternate Pyramid Head (and / or some other killers, as some have pointed out). I understand that there can only be so many practical killer powers and abilities but he's just not the character that I was expecting. I didn't think it would be about tentacle whipping, I figured that it would be about sheer brute force. Granted I'm not the developer, I didn't think about how this would be integrated.

    But eh, Pyramid Head is far cooler a character than Nemesis ever was anyway.

  • glitchboi
    glitchboi Member Posts: 6,025
    edited June 2021

    I unironically find him more enjoyable to play than Pyramid Head (who is already a pretty enjoyable killer atm). He may be weaker but his kit is a lot more interesting. Solid B tier killer. Give him time.

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 6,368

    Because his punch is way cooler than that stupid blade of PH.

  • TheMidnightRidr
    TheMidnightRidr Member Posts: 609

    Because stomp stomp stomp stomp

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Because Nemesis is way more fun, has better built-in info and acts as a short-range Deathslinger with a much quicker cooldown than any other ranged killer.

  • Falkner09
    Falkner09 Member Posts: 375

    I'm floored by the fact that you get a speed boost from being infected. Unbelievable.

  • miketheratguy
    miketheratguy Member Posts: 2,719

    I do love (LOVE) the beautiful electric blue splatter that comes with being infected by Nemesis or the zombies.

  • ChurchofPig
    ChurchofPig Member Posts: 2,952

    Personally, I find Nemesis more fun and easier than Pyramid Head. Also, I don't care that the zombies are weak. Only because I think people want to be able to rely on the zombies to do the job for them and that's not what they should be. Sure they should get a hit in more than once every five matches, but I don't think they should be something to rely on. People should rely on their skills and ability as a player.

  • TheClownIsKing
    TheClownIsKing Member Posts: 6,278

    Can we all respect the fact that Capcom would have had a say in what Nemesis’ powers would have been?

    There’s very little wiggle room for what they COULD have done with Nemesis. What else was there is explore? Give him a rocket launcher? Just another Huntress then huh...

  • BadMrFrosty
    BadMrFrosty Member Posts: 1,100

    A love of the character, and that's it. Nemesis is worse than Pyramid head in pretty much every way - everything he does is guaranteed to waste time AND he gives survivors that +1 sprint burst if they're uninfected. Once again, this is a prime example of BVHR not understanding their game and why this is such a big deal.

  • GreyBigfoot
    GreyBigfoot Member Posts: 959

    There is some evidence that his power may have been different in earlier development. The daily ritual for Nemesis is leveling to Tier 3 Mutation 4 times. That takes 4 games minimum, which means they may have intended for some kind of bigger power in tier 3 a la Myers.

  • TheClownIsKing
    TheClownIsKing Member Posts: 6,278

    Or just that it resets, and there were access to way more Vaccines?

  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467

    Because he's THE MOTHERFUCKING NEMESIS.

    Also smacking people with the tentacle is really fun. The cooldown seems really fast in tier 3.

  • Gylfie
    Gylfie Member Posts: 648

    I don't know why but Nemesis is the most fun I've had as killer in ages. I don't even mind losing as long as I can slap people with my tentacle and straight up punch them in the face.

  • SilentPill
    SilentPill Member Posts: 1,302

    Being able to break pallets from range is pretty nice too. It definitely gives him a ton of zoning potential.

    I like that you can either use the zombies as tracking/support or like power ups depending on the addons. With the ink ribbon + serotonin injector the zombies were respawned before the undetectable even ran out.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    but he has zombies

  • Peppa_Pigsaw
    Peppa_Pigsaw Member Posts: 249

    I was a Pyramid Head main since he launched, was with him and no lifed him until now.


    The reason why? Pyramid Head is absolutely infuriating to play. The amount of times I've seen people standing in my attack and not getting hit because of the servers is more than I can count and it's infuriating. Nemesis doesn't have that problem from what I can tell. Hence why I switched.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,977

    Because they have more fun playing him?

    Like, why would anyone play any Killer except for Spirit or Nurse?

  • Northener1907
    Northener1907 Member Posts: 3,012
    edited June 2021

    Because Nemesis is more fun than PH. I played both them so much. Nemesis is my fav.


    And maybe that is because i played all RE games but not any Silent Hill game.

  • elpoh
    elpoh Member Posts: 222
    edited June 2021

    Being a RE fanboy

    Daily Ritual



    And that's everything i can think.


    I Also think Nemesis is a weaker Pyramid


    Pyramid don't need LoS to use the power

    Nemesis can't even hit above cars and high boxes


    Pyramid can hit multiple targets

    Nemesis can't and sometimes getting screwed by his own zombies


    Pyramid Torment is very Hard to cure.

    Nemesis Infection is Super Easy to cure.


    Pyramid always have a extremely long range and nice hitbox

    Nemesis need level up the tentacle, and the hitbox is smaller than Deathslinger shots.


    Imagine if Pyramid first hit just add Torment...

    That is what Nemesis does.




    Nemesis should be able to hit multiple targets.

    Nemesis should be able to do 180º affecting everything inside.

    Nemsis don't should give speed boost on infecting hits.

    And then, Nemesis will be fixed.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Because of those sweet tentacle sounds

  • Babawizwiz
    Babawizwiz Member Posts: 347
  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,977

    I mean, most players will play what makes more fun for them.

    Like, I play M1-Killers a lot. If I want to win, I just play Spirit with Stridor and Slowdown-Perks, not the most skillful thing to do, but I will win almost every game.

    So even if people say that PH is stronger than Nemesis, players might just enjoy Nemesis more. Like, I think he is fun to play.

  • ClarityOfWill
    ClarityOfWill Member Posts: 206
    edited June 2021

    There isn't beyond aesthetics or being a fan of the character. Everything aside from pallet breaking phead does better, and with greater efficiency. Hell his cages and torment allow you to bypass certain perks. I love RE but he is just a discount version with some aspects of plague thrown in for good measure.

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    I'll play him more simply because Pyramid heads power is incredibly boring and doesn't suit him at all. People only played PP to override DS. And DS is dead now. I've seen 2 Pyramids since the DS nerf.

  • gammatsunami
    gammatsunami Member Posts: 545

    Im shocked capcom arent annoyed, their killer is a worse version of their big rival horror franchise killer.

  • tenoresax
    tenoresax Member Posts: 797

    Actually Pyramid's cooldown is very slightly faster, Punishment is 2.25 and Tentacle Strike is 2.5

    It's not much but I mean, maybe that quarter second could be what turns a chase around, ya never know

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    True, but POTD moves too slowly to be effective against good survivors without animation lock, so I honestly barely consider him a ranged killer.

  • tenoresax
    tenoresax Member Posts: 797

    Also true, but tbf there's plenty of situations where punishment can get you hits outside of animation locks even against more seasoned players

    Choke points are an obvious one but my favourite ones to hit are when you analyse the survivor to see whether they double back after rounding corners to avoid punishment through the wall, attacking at the corner and watching them walk right back into it

    It doesn't work all the time obviously, but that's why I enjoy Pyramid Head so much, playing him ambitiously and unpredictably and watching unexpected plays working out is one of the most gratifying things in the game for me, Nemesis can't do things like that and unfortunately, that really sinks his fun factor for me