Hillbilly

danara said:

Malakir said:

danara said:

Malakir said:

danara said:

DwightsLifeMatters said:

Why don't u go play killer at rank 1 and take trapper or Pig or freddy so other survivors can enjoy something else besides billy, be part of the solution right?
If have done this u can come back and delete ur suggestion.

Because i’m a survivor main. I was just saying it’s not fun playing against billy all the time, you don’t have to sound so salty. The solution shouldn’t involve me having to play killer, the solution should be solved by the devs by either nerfing the extremely OP killers that are played constantly to bring them down to the same level of other killers aswell as buffing some like the pig and Freddy. In case you haven’t noticed the new released killers are in no way comparable to the nurse or billy

Okay you don't know what are you talking about

For you to solve this the most viable killers needs to be nerfed instead of helping the lower tiers making them at the mid tier killers

There is some entitlement or I'm imagining things?

Yeah the new released killer would be one of the worse killers if won't be touched, which Is unlikely. Still, You prefer nerf the two strongest and useful killers cuz you think they are op. 

I'd like to suggest something that devs suggested time ago, when the game was even more unbalanced: adapt

It is my opinion, yes I am suggesting that the OP killers hillbilly and nurse should be nerfed to at least Myers/hag/spirit level who are still more than capable of getting a 3k+ just not as easily as hillbilly or nurse. I am not saying gut them of viability but a simple nerf of 110% ms (which every killer with mobility powers have) or even a chainsaw cooldown similar to the spirit. Then to buff low tier killers to medium tier so games with hillbilly or nurse in it aren’t just a complete stomp. Nurse can literally end a game in the first couple minutes if you are telling me that’s balanced and to ‘adapt’ to that then it’s literally not possible without some nerfs going through. People were complaining about the spirit being too weak on the pbe and just one little tweak made her a very viable killer so don’t assume the killer will be weak just from the pbe he will likely receive buffs.

110% ms to Billy means he would be one of the most loopable killers in the game. Yes he has a chainsaw but won't help for loops and he's already slowed by it

If you can't play against the nurse it's your fault. She can end games pretty fast, if the survivors are potato plus just to play her requires a lot of practice. ShesS the only killer where survivors have to react on a chase not the other way around

As said I specify "if stays at this state" for legion but you won't even bother to read properly it seems

I repeat: Adapt. Same answer devs gave to killers time ago when instablinds and many infinities where a thing

Plus isn't even comparable since she has a huge weakness, no tracking skill. Let's not forget you know when she's gonna blink just by looking at her so you have time to REACT accordingly

And being looped is a bad thing when you have a chainsaw that can A. Move you across the entire map in a couple of seconds and B. Even use the chainsaw to destroy the pallet and save yourself more time? Ok lol . The spirit is loopable, Myers is loopable, almost every killer so why should hillbilly be an exception when he already has much more to offer than them. If he shouldn’t get a -5 ms nerf he should at least receive a cooldown on his power like the spirit to keep him in check.

I can play against the nurse however an extremely good nurse with time and practice can dominate the entire game at 5 gens left and that’s fine, and do this game after game? Im okay with the nurse to be honest since she does require practice to get used too but she is still OP.

I won’t bother responding to the legion comment because it’s basically irrelevant 

And like I said, there is no variety in killers at higher rank. Only hillbilly on console and nurse and hillbilly on pc, I’m just trying to make suggestions because playing round after round against hillbilly is honestly just boring and shows you just how weak other killers are compared to him.

@danara

My opinions aren’t irrelevant I am stating facts lol if you’are too ignorant to comprehend that then that’s your problem. If you want to start being petty then trust me I have much much more than 1 weeks playtime. The reason I dismissed your legion comment is because he hasn’t even been released yet so what’s is actually the point in discussing a killer not even OUT yet

again, with people bringing up the movement speed nerf when I said YOU COULD ALSO GIVE HIS POWER A COOLDOWN AND KEEP HIS MS 115. I wrote it in capitals so that you can SEE this time it’s so sad to see how salty you became bringing up playtimes and such get your head out of your ass and out my topic

You ain't talking about facts but more of a feeling argument kid

Okay let's talk about facts shall we?

Hillbilly chainsaw, slower movement speed after he pulls it up having the chance to get to a corner making his whole power useless and wasting time.

Breaking the pallet with such, getting enough time to get to another loop or hide when he pulls up his chainsaw.

Now your dumb ideas:
Limit the chainsaw usage with these drawbacks not touched so limit even his map control which is the only thing that's really strong with hillbilly. I can already hear "But he has insta down" yeah he does, still with this drawbacks take the risk of missing the chainsaw won't be even worth it. People already have to stick on survivors ass to be sure they won't miss with the chainsaw and that scenario would happen if the survivor ######### up

Making his ms 110%. He would become mid tier istantly, he's already a loopable killer like any M1 killer, at least who has 110% ms have something to compensate. Spirit having a huge amount of speed on phase walk with drawbacks, Huntress the hatchet for long hits but with a good margin of counterplay, Hag have teleportation so she rely on traps placements to reach the survivors etc etc

I think you should get your head out of your ass and start using it, if still works, which I'm not sure about.
Yeah I talked about playtime because I'm sure you barely touched any killer and never played with decent survivors as one of them. Anyone with any kind of knowledge of this game would rather have other killers be at Billy's level not the other way around, since he has drawbacks but still more playable for map control, insta downs etc that advantages him compared to others, especially the map control which you wanna deny putting a cooldown on his power.

Would be hard but at least try to think

@danara said:
Malakir said:

@danara

My opinions aren’t irrelevant I am stating facts lol if you’are too ignorant to comprehend that then that’s your problem. If you want to start being petty then trust me I have much much more than 1 weeks playtime. The reason I dismissed your legion comment is because he hasn’t even been released yet so what’s is actually the point in discussing a killer not even OUT yet

again, with people bringing up the movement speed nerf when I said YOU COULD ALSO GIVE HIS POWER A COOLDOWN AND KEEP HIS MS 115. I wrote it in capitals so that you can SEE this time it’s so sad to see how salty you became bringing up playtimes and such get your head out of your ass and out my topic

You ain't talking about facts but more of a feeling argument kid

Okay let's talk about facts shall we?

Hillbilly chainsaw, slower movement speed after he pulls it up having the chance to get to a corner making his whole power useless and wasting time.

Breaking the pallet with such, getting enough time to get to another loop or hide when he pulls up his chainsaw.

Now your dumb ideas:

Limit the chainsaw usage with these drawbacks not touched so limit even his map control which is the only thing that's really strong with hillbilly. I can already hear "But he has insta down" yeah he does, still with this drawbacks take the risk of missing the chainsaw won't be even worth it. People already have to stick on survivors ass to be sure they won't miss with the chainsaw and that scenario would happen if the survivor [BAD WORD] up

Making his ms 110%. He would become mid tier istantly, he's already a loopable killer like any M1 killer, at least who has 110% ms have something to compensate. Spirit having a huge amount of speed on phase walk with drawbacks, Huntress the hatchet for long hits but with a good margin of counterplay, Hag have teleportation so she rely on traps placements to reach the survivors etc etc

I think you should get your head out of your ass and start using it, if still works, which I'm not sure about.

Yeah I talked about playtime because I'm sure you barely touched any killer and never played with decent survivors as one of them. Anyone with any kind of knowledge of this game would rather have other killers be at Billy's level not the other way around, since he has drawbacks but still more playable for map control, insta downs etc that advantages him compared to others, especially the map control which you wanna deny putting a cooldown on his power.

Would be hard but at least try to think

You’re starting to bore me because all you do is say a couple little points then sprinkle some insults over them so i’ll do the same.

You have a couple of seconds max to get to a corner which are NOT everywhere, the chainsaw use of destroying a pallet is actually a pro not a con to the billy so I’m not sure why you keep bringing that up, it makes him destroy the pallet faster saving him time, maybe you’re just stupid 

you answered your own post. ‘HE HAS AN INSTA DOWN’ is a good enough reason for all the mobility and usage his power offers, destroying pallets etc, Now add a 10-15 second cd to it and fair play. 

Let me also mention that his chainsaw does NOT suffer from drawbacks unlike Leatherfaces which CAN down more people but hillbilly can also use his to traverse the map. (Inb4 your dumb ass says he has a 0.2 second stun after missing it)

you also answered your point again bringing him to an average killer similar to myers/hag/spirit is where he should be not somewhere near pig/freddy

you act like having a cooldown on his power would limit him so much which it honestly wouldn’t. The spirit does fine and she gets MOBILITY. Hillbilly gets MOBILITY AND A INSTA DOWN AND PALLET DESTROYING. Seriously you’re just dumb af I pray to god you don’t respond to this cause I’m going to bed now if you do I’ll just reply in the morning 

sad to see how ignorant people are to THE MOST OP killers getting even the tiniest nerf, everybody knows hillbilly and nurse are S tier. Bring them down a notch and make things fair. Survivors get hit with nerf after nerf then you even attempt to bring up a hillbilly or nurse nerf and you get idiots like yourself

Should I remind you this : -get your head out of your ass and out my topic-
I just answer with the same tone as you did. What? Now its not fine but if its you it is? deal with it

"You have a couple of seconds max to get to a corner which are NOT everywhere, the chainsaw use of destroying a pallet is actually a pro not a con to the billy so I’m not sure why you keep bringing that up, it makes him destroy the pallet faster saving him time, maybe you’re just stupid "

• So you actually proved I am right, if the survivor duck up then get the chainsaw. Grats! Destroying a pallet is a pro, yes I stated that. When I said its a cons? I just said it has a counter, I know you like to straw man but at least be logical and not intellectually dishonest. But maybe yeah I just throw insults with just little information like you do, right?

"you answered your own post. ‘HE HAS AN INSTA DOWN’ is a good enough reason for all the mobility and usage his power offers, destroying pallets etc, Now add a 10-15 second cd to it and fair play. "

• Even leatherface have an insta down. So why he is so low in the tier lists? If you add 10-15s to do it he would actually go in the mid-low tier istantly but since you won't use logic this concept would be extremely hard for you

" Let me also mention that his chainsaw does NOT suffer from drawbacks unlike Leatherfaces which CAN down more people but hillbilly can also use his to traverse the map. (Inb4 your dumb ass says he has a 0.2 second stun after missing it)"

• I explained even before his drowbacks but since doesn't fit your narrative you won't mention them right? His chainsaw is useless on loops for example, you just get to a corner and that's it, if you got catched out of position its your own fault don't you think? I never said he has 0.2s stun after he misses it you can't read again. I kinda overexaggerated saying It has 0.2 ADVANTAGE compared to a normal pallet break which isn't true, but would give you half of a second calculating that you have to charge it before using it and destroy the pallet so yeah still an advantage but you can also move meanwhile even if its hard to understand try to follow okay? good

"you also answered your point again bringing him to an average killer similar to myers/hag/spirit is where he should be not somewhere near pig/freddy"
-When? I said he is high tier but mostly for his mobility not for being able to stop you to lopp him because you know, you can still do!

"you act like having a cooldown on his power would limit him so much which it honestly wouldn’t. The spirit does fine and she gets MOBILITY. Hillbilly gets MOBILITY AND A INSTA DOWN AND PALLET DESTROYING. Seriously you’re just dumb af I pray to god you don’t respond to this cause I’m going to bed now if you do I’ll just reply in the morning "

• So now you're comparing TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT powers that have DIFFERENT uses. Thank you for actually saying you don't actually play killer or what are these powers meant for. Yeah it would give him a huge kick in the nuts if he has cooldown, he already can't insta chainsaw you (expensive add-ons that might not even appear on the bloodweb) but have to CHARGE and get some distance. Its mostly used in that way and only if you can catch up with the survivor, almost touching them, you can use your power or you have high chances to miss. Btw its really cute you keep insulting me and then you say I insult and just throw few points here and there. I wonder for how long your projection can go on

"sad to see how ignorant people are to THE MOST OP killers getting even the tiniest nerf, everybody knows hillbilly and nurse are S tier. Bring them down a notch and make things fair. Survivors get hit with nerf after nerf then you even attempt to bring up a hillbilly or nurse nerf and you get idiots like yourself"

• Sad how ignorant some people are and don't know how to play the game or how things works. Yes survivors got some nerfs here and there, not as many as killers tbh. I read every single patch note in the game, watched every video when the game has been release and keep seeing every change putting them into context. For you 4s heal speed added must be such a big nerf, especially when in the next patch they are getting rid of every aura perk the killers have and don't get me started on the counters every killer have.. ooff, would take ages even just by starting from the map and totems awful spawns. Btw thank you for keep calling me idiot, at least 20 times so far and yet your arguments are feel based not fact based, kinda sad. Come back when you have something intelligent to say and not only insults since you clearly have no idea how the game works and how to play it

Its also cute you talk to me like I just play killer or something referring to "people like you". I know what I'm gonna say might be shocking but.. I play 100% of the game, I don't like to play just 50% of it and actually play mostly survivors since its more relaxing and fun compared to the killer which is stressful many times.
Have nice dreams my flaming prince

danara said:

Malakir said:

@danara said:
Malakir said:

@danara

My opinions aren’t irrelevant I am stating facts lol if you’are too ignorant to comprehend that then that’s your problem. If you want to start being petty then trust me I have much much more than 1 weeks playtime. The reason I dismissed your legion comment is because he hasn’t even been released yet so what’s is actually the point in discussing a killer not even OUT yet

again, with people bringing up the movement speed nerf when I said YOU COULD ALSO GIVE HIS POWER A COOLDOWN AND KEEP HIS MS 115. I wrote it in capitals so that you can SEE this time it’s so sad to see how salty you became bringing up playtimes and such get your head out of your ass and out my topic

You ain't talking about facts but more of a feeling argument kid

Okay let's talk about facts shall we?

Hillbilly chainsaw, slower movement speed after he pulls it up having the chance to get to a corner making his whole power useless and wasting time.

Breaking the pallet with such, getting enough time to get to another loop or hide when he pulls up his chainsaw.

Now your dumb ideas:

Limit the chainsaw usage with these drawbacks not touched so limit even his map control which is the only thing that's really strong with hillbilly. I can already hear "But he has insta down" yeah he does, still with this drawbacks take the risk of missing the chainsaw won't be even worth it. People already have to stick on survivors ass to be sure they won't miss with the chainsaw and that scenario would happen if the survivor [BAD WORD] up

Making his ms 110%. He would become mid tier istantly, he's already a loopable killer like any M1 killer, at least who has 110% ms have something to compensate. Spirit having a huge amount of speed on phase walk with drawbacks, Huntress the hatchet for long hits but with a good margin of counterplay, Hag have teleportation so she rely on traps placements to reach the survivors etc etc

I think you should get your head out of your ass and start using it, if still works, which I'm not sure about.

Yeah I talked about playtime because I'm sure you barely touched any killer and never played with decent survivors as one of them. Anyone with any kind of knowledge of this game would rather have other killers be at Billy's level not the other way around, since he has drawbacks but still more playable for map control, insta downs etc that advantages him compared to others, especially the map control which you wanna deny putting a cooldown on his power.

Would be hard but at least try to think

You’re starting to bore me because all you do is say a couple little points then sprinkle some insults over them so i’ll do the same.

You have a couple of seconds max to get to a corner which are NOT everywhere, the chainsaw use of destroying a pallet is actually a pro not a con to the billy so I’m not sure why you keep bringing that up, it makes him destroy the pallet faster saving him time, maybe you’re just stupid 

you answered your own post. ‘HE HAS AN INSTA DOWN’ is a good enough reason for all the mobility and usage his power offers, destroying pallets etc, Now add a 10-15 second cd to it and fair play. 

Let me also mention that his chainsaw does NOT suffer from drawbacks unlike Leatherfaces which CAN down more people but hillbilly can also use his to traverse the map. (Inb4 your dumb ass says he has a 0.2 second stun after missing it)

you also answered your point again bringing him to an average killer similar to myers/hag/spirit is where he should be not somewhere near pig/freddy

you act like having a cooldown on his power would limit him so much which it honestly wouldn’t. The spirit does fine and she gets MOBILITY. Hillbilly gets MOBILITY AND A INSTA DOWN AND PALLET DESTROYING. Seriously you’re just dumb af I pray to god you don’t respond to this cause I’m going to bed now if you do I’ll just reply in the morning 

sad to see how ignorant people are to THE MOST OP killers getting even the tiniest nerf, everybody knows hillbilly and nurse are S tier. Bring them down a notch and make things fair. Survivors get hit with nerf after nerf then you even attempt to bring up a hillbilly or nurse nerf and you get idiots like yourself

Should I remind you this : -get your head out of your ass and out my topic-
I just answer with the same tone as you did. What? Now its not fine but if its you it is? deal with it

"You have a couple of seconds max to get to a corner which are NOT everywhere, the chainsaw use of destroying a pallet is actually a pro not a con to the billy so I’m not sure why you keep bringing that up, it makes him destroy the pallet faster saving him time, maybe you’re just stupid "

• So you actually proved I am right, if the survivor duck up then get the chainsaw. Grats! Destroying a pallet is a pro, yes I stated that. When I said its a cons? I just said it has a counter, I know you like to straw man but at least be logical and not intellectually dishonest. But maybe yeah I just throw insults with just little information like you do, right?

"you answered your own post. ‘HE HAS AN INSTA DOWN’ is a good enough reason for all the mobility and usage his power offers, destroying pallets etc, Now add a 10-15 second cd to it and fair play. "

• Even leatherface have an insta down. So why he is so low in the tier lists? If you add 10-15s to do it he would actually go in the mid-low tier istantly but since you won't use logic this concept would be extremely hard for you

" Let me also mention that his chainsaw does NOT suffer from drawbacks unlike Leatherfaces which CAN down more people but hillbilly can also use his to traverse the map. (Inb4 your dumb ass says he has a 0.2 second stun after missing it)"

• I explained even before his drowbacks but since doesn't fit your narrative you won't mention them right? His chainsaw is useless on loops for example, you just get to a corner and that's it, if you got catched out of position its your own fault don't you think? I never said he has 0.2s stun after he misses it you can't read again. I kinda overexaggerated saying It has 0.2 ADVANTAGE compared to a normal pallet break which isn't true, but would give you half of a second calculating that you have to charge it before using it and destroy the pallet so yeah still an advantage but you can also move meanwhile even if its hard to understand try to follow okay? good

"you also answered your point again bringing him to an average killer similar to myers/hag/spirit is where he should be not somewhere near pig/freddy"
-When? I said he is high tier but mostly for his mobility not for being able to stop you to lopp him because you know, you can still do!

"you act like having a cooldown on his power would limit him so much which it honestly wouldn’t. The spirit does fine and she gets MOBILITY. Hillbilly gets MOBILITY AND A INSTA DOWN AND PALLET DESTROYING. Seriously you’re just dumb af I pray to god you don’t respond to this cause I’m going to bed now if you do I’ll just reply in the morning "

• So now you're comparing TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT powers that have DIFFERENT uses. Thank you for actually saying you don't actually play killer or what are these powers meant for. Yeah it would give him a huge kick in the nuts if he has cooldown, he already can't insta chainsaw you (expensive add-ons that might not even appear on the bloodweb) but have to CHARGE and get some distance. Its mostly used in that way and only if you can catch up with the survivor, almost touching them, you can use your power or you have high chances to miss. Btw its really cute you keep insulting me and then you say I insult and just throw few points here and there. I wonder for how long your projection can go on

"sad to see how ignorant people are to THE MOST OP killers getting even the tiniest nerf, everybody knows hillbilly and nurse are S tier. Bring them down a notch and make things fair. Survivors get hit with nerf after nerf then you even attempt to bring up a hillbilly or nurse nerf and you get idiots like yourself"

• Sad how ignorant some people are and don't know how to play the game or how things works. Yes survivors got some nerfs here and there, not as many as killers tbh. I read every single patch note in the game, watched every video when the game has been release and keep seeing every change putting them into context. For you 4s heal speed added must be such a big nerf, especially when in the next patch they are getting rid of every aura perk the killers have and don't get me started on the counters every killer have.. ooff, would take ages even just by starting from the map and totems awful spawns. Btw thank you for keep calling me idiot, at least 20 times so far and yet your arguments are feel based not fact based, kinda sad. Come back when you have something intelligent to say and not only insults since you clearly have no idea how the game works and how to play it

Its also cute you talk to me like I just play killer or something referring to "people like you". I know what I'm gonna say might be shocking but.. I play 100% of the game, I don't like to play just 50% of it and actually play mostly survivors since its more relaxing and fun compared to the killer which is stressful many times.
Have nice dreams my flaming prince

I just replied with the same hostility you have been doing so the past few posts, maybe if you read the last few comments you would realise you were the one being a dick, bringing up my game time as if it has even any relevance in this thread and getting butthurt over me telling you your legion post is irrelevant because he isn’t even out yet. But ok sweetie whatever floats your boat.

how did I prove you’re right? So you’re saying it’s fair that the hillbilly can use his chainsaw to move ALL the way across the map which no other killer can do after hooking a survivor except nurse (who actually has drawbacks) then instantly rev up his chainsaw against a survivor who was working on a gen and has a couple seconds max to find a corner and THATS a [BAD WORD] up on the survivors part? You’re ridiculous. Hillbilly is clearly too OP, as no other killer can do this.

maybe you’re unable to comprehend the thread but that is exactly the reason leather face is mid tier. He has a insta down that can hit multiple people but can he traverse the entire map in a couple of seconds? No. He also has a massive stun drawback which the hillbilly does not have. 

Billy is far from useless In loops in fact he’s better than the average killer due to the ability to only be looped 1/2 times due to his 115% ms in which he can catch up to the survivor forcing them to drop the pallet, meaning he can either get a m1 hit in or rev up before hand his chainsaw efficiently saving himself time in destroying it and creating less of a distance that would have been had he not used the chainsaw.

again you talk about looping which is easier for a 115% ms killer to deal with than a 110%. I already said above they can only be looped for such few times before being able to catch up unlike a 110 killer. You also forget all the perks available to prevent looping but ok dear

im comparing TWO DIFFERENT POWERS, showing that one is overloaded as [BAD WORD] whilst the other is very much still decent and actually has less movement speed as well as a time restraint on it. He should have to CHARGE his chainsaw either way given how completely OP of a power it is so I seriously don’t know what you’re trying to get at. And btw the insulting began with you and anyone with a brain can see that through the whole thread get out the kitchen if you can’t take the heat. Just because I don’t play killer as much doesn’t mean my reasons are any more invalid than yours. I have TONS of experience playing against every killer as a survivor so yes I know what I’m talking about. Maybe you’re just one of them people who look at my posts and see im new to the forums and think I’m a noobie, but I’ve been lurking and playing dbd for a long time now

The -4s heal timer really was a good nerf in my opinion and yet you’re here saying it was big to me acting like you know me and trying to make me sound like a bad player. Killers have been receiving buffs for how long, pick up timer increased, hook timer increased, yes these small things are very important when you’re in the heat of an intense match. Various killer getting buffs, survivors getting nerfed with pallets and looping areas being cut off (which was a good change but still a nerf at the end of the day)

oh and look here you say I have no experience in the game at all and yet you know nothing about me stating your opinions and stating that mine are void. Where did you get the impression that yours are RIGHT? See look your head really is just so far up your ass it’s distorting your view on a discussion, the reason why I told you to get the f out of my topic which you still haven’t done, so please. Make this the last post, you’re so boring it’s tiring me out. 

Ok good on you, you play 100% of the game lol suit yourself but killer doesn’t appeal to me at all and is less boring and intense which is why I play mostly survivor. And yes I do still play killer aswell just not as much as survivor.

dont worry your flaming prince will still be here waiting for your response, you flaming princess

@danara said:
So recently today the only games I have had are like 10 Hillbilly matches, 1 Leatherface and 1 Spirit. (I am rank 1 btw) this isn’t anything surprising or new but i’m just getting bored of playing against the same killer(s) - nurse for pc players. Does anyone else think the Hillbilly should receive some sort of nerf, ability cd or ms, or simply just buff the other killers to the same viability 

at this point im just considering depipping because there is more variety at lower ranks

Yeah it sucks but the devs have the opinion that not all killers need to be viable at high rank.

danara said:

Malakir said:

/thread

No discussion here just echo chamber seeking by the OP with insults if you disagree and/or explaining why

Was a discussion until you started being petty you’re the only one who received insults. you can’t handle a proper discussion because you’re too ignorant in other people’s views and disregard their points based on their ‘playtime’ 

danara said:

Malakir said:

danara said:

Malakir said:

/thread

No discussion here just echo chamber seeking by the OP with insults if you disagree and/or explaining why

Was a discussion until you started being petty you’re the only one who received insults. you can’t handle a proper discussion because you’re too ignorant in other people’s views and disregard their points based on their ‘playtime’ 

Dude, you're the one e who straw man my argument and ignore everything I say even when I answer point by point. The only thing you did was misrepresent my points and insult. I have no interest of keep talking with someone like that who won't understand or challenge it's viewpoint but only seeking an echo chamber

Thats what you showed me the whole time, idk why this thread even exist. Except, y Kno, for the only reason you're showing

I don’t know what you’re talking about every time you gave me points I replied with my own points which you would ignore going ‘lol no playtime soz too inexperienced’ what makes you think I want to have a discussion with someone who claims my points invalid like that? Next time you’re having a discussion with someone try refrain from being an a-hole because this is what it can turn the thread into. Honestly don’t know why this is still going on LOL