Blame Game Design, Not Genrush & Tunnel

But what can devs do?

Besides introducing secondary objective to survivors,something to do before they can begin working on gens.

Tunneling can be solved giving hooking mechanism to every killer like Pyramid head has,removing the traditional one

Old dbd for some reason everything was done slowly, killers had breathing time, survivors had a chance to do totems/chest etc, killers sweat less since in most matches there was old ruin, survivors outplayed killers for reals unlike now a days.

Way less bugs or limits such as cooldowns like overheat as an example.

Before as an old billy main, I was able to curve all I wanted without fearing of missing a chainsaw and lose 3 gens, p2p was better than dedicated servers.

Both sides were less optimal and more fun.

Fun fact: if survivors abused infinites and such, other survivors actually sandbagged the infinite abuser and never unhooked him, killers if a survivor was actually being trolled or sandbag for reals they usually gave that person a break.

This game is way more balanced than it was 2 years ago yes, is it more fun? Nope not at all, in fact I prefer there being overpowered stuff that was fun compared to current dbd.

Survivors are learning that they can just pump gens out and win... In return killers are learning that if they don't do whatever they can to get pressure fast, the game will spiral out of control.

I agree with you that it is poor design though.

Imo, gens should be harder to do and should be less safe. Maps could be smaller, and the survivor's objective could require them to run around instead of just sitting there holding a button.

In turn, survivors could get come more tools to deal with killers in chase, and there could be harder measures implemented to deal with camping, slugging and tunneling.

But that is not the game we have sadly...

Well you could shift repair speed to a charged based system (i.e survivor repair slower at the start and faster and faster the more they interact with the killer / other survivors / totems).

Lets say you unhook a person:

the unhooked person will reduce 50% slower while the unhooker will repair 50% faster (if a killer camps - 30sec after being hooked other survivor can get near and collect the repair boost).

If a survivor dies early the remaining survivor can also collect the charges from the dead survivor.

This way tunneling and removing a person as quick as possible is no longer the most efficient way. But it also means a Killer who struggles getting his first hook has more time (cuz survivor mostly get charges from healing / unhooking other survivors).

Your idea many have merit and definitely worth testing. That said there is an inherent 'push pull' at play here. Survivors will always need to finish their objectives as fast as possible to guarantee escape. Once the first hook is made, 'objective' progress slow down considerably for survs. On a small map, it's death knell if at least 3 gens haven't popped/are close to popping because it's much harder to heal safely and do the remaining gens safely. On a map that's larger with crappy RNG for the Killer, there is by far less risk.

One might say "just limit map size and RNG" but then the maps become stale and boring. The ones that are definitely surv or killer sided are ID'ed and the map offering wars being.

I don't think DS need to be 10 secs, but more that it needs a way to make it obscure/confusing where the surv went. I cannot tell you how many Killers I've seen eat the DS or BT hit and then just plow after the same surv, regardless of what anyone else does. I managed by sheer luck to push a Legion to the edge of wall, costing them time, but instead of hitting me, they went AROUND me to chase the person off their second hook. That's not a limited experience.

That said, I don't think the devs want to do much about 'gen rushing' or tunneling and camping. This game isn't meant to be a balance of skill at the end of the day.

Secondary objective for survivors used to be sabo. It was not balanced and DEVs nerfed it too hard. Games became faster after sabo nerf. Allow each survivor to sabo 1-2 hooks without Saboteur or tools. Make it slow, give enough BP for that to survivors. It will not harm killers much, there are many hooks. Survivors will go after additional BP.

Tunneling is harder. The core problem about tunneling is the 2-stage hook system. You need to hook a survivor the second time to eliminate him from the game, it causes tunneling. Killers go after it, because 1 survivor less means there are less survivors doing gens. Just eliminate the 2-stage hook system, make survivors die as soon as the "hook-bar" runs out or when all survivors are dead or hooked. Also reduce amount of BP gained by Killer when he re-hooks a survivor within x seconds (maybe 30-60seconds). This way there won't be a need to tunnel a survivor, it doesn't bring you anything as a killer, it will just reduce the amount of BP that you will gain. If you leave the hooked survivor and go for another one, you can get more hooks and more BP. It will also help survivors, because killers won't be able to hook you twice within 1 minute and end the game for you too fast.

Also, it's not necessary for the killer to see where the hooked survivor is (remove gfx). And there is no need for the unhook sound+gfx notification. What purpose does it serve? It only helps killers to tunnel, it must be removed.