Lols are gone?
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Heyo. So I should probably explain.
In the perfect world, we'd have all the reactions and everything would be great. You could upvote things that were good, downvote things that were bad, awesome things you think are awesome, and LOL things that made you laugh.
The first problem came with downvotes. There were some other functions attached to downvotes that could not be removed, namely that after a certain number of downvotes, the post would be hidden. That's out of the question because it basically means that anyone with an unpopular opinion is effectively silenced (or in the case of large threads, anyone with an opinion in general on the first page or so). So unfortunately, downvotes had to go. Downvotes are really key here, LOL became a negative thing because we had to get rid of them.
Then LOL sorta' took over that place. Fair enough, we didn't really mind, even if it is a little more rude than a downvote. No biggy. But then a couple other problems surfaced. We had a few instances where people would run a bot or even just manually use a bunch of alt accounts to spam reactions (almost always LOL) on people they disagree with. I'm talking thousands overnight. Those guys have been dealt with, but it still kept happening every once in a while. Beyond that, there were a bunch of times where someone would follow someone around and LOL every single one of their posts (and yes, we can see who). This also lead some people to accuse other people for it, often innocent people.
As much as LOL was a good thing, it was also abused. A lot.
So we're going to try this out for a while. Hopefully we'll be able to get a tighter reaction system some day, but for now we're going to roll with this and see how it goes. The silver lining is that this might promote some constructive discussions. Rather than just dog-piling on someone you disagree with and flooding them with LOLs, someone's going to have to post why they think it's a bad idea and then everyone can upvote that.
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Wow, now no one will know how hilarious or controversial I am.
I was proud of my 250+ LOLs dammit!
Bring back LOL react!13 -
Just when I was about to grind them! FU
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Omfg i'm so sad
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Better not lose your account or you'll lose all your LOLs.
Got my rank 4 LOL badge, planning to keep it.
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Oh my, the irony.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Guess the devs hoped that by removing the "LOL's" that survivor mains would quit spamming all killer buff posts with it whilst contributing nothing to the discussion.JanTheMan said:Nooooo!!!
There was definitely some people abusing it but not the people you think it was.2 -
This is so sad, can we get some lols in chat.2
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"YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! AH, DAMN YOU! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!! " - George Taylor
Haha. Kidding. But yeah, someone complained, and it happened, I guess.3 -
I'll admit, some of the posts deserved the lols. Killers would do it to survivor posts too. But there were many times people would have logical ideas that would like 20-25 lols and NO-ONE would explain why they disagreed, or if they did, they were condescending.The_Crusader said:
Oh my, the irony.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Guess the devs hoped that by removing the "LOL's" that survivor mains would quit spamming all killer buff posts with it whilst contributing nothing to the discussion.JanTheMan said:Nooooo!!!
There was definitely some people abusing it but not the people you think it was.3 -
lol2
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Now we can just comment 'LOL' instead.
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@BeanieEnthusiast said:
Now we can just comment 'LOL' instead.LOL (Imaginary LOLs counter: +1)
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No #########, it's basically just "don't buff the side I don't play".Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
I'll admit, some of the posts deserved the lols. Killers would do it to survivor posts too. But there were many times people would have logical ideas that would like 20-25 lols and NO-ONE would explain why they disagreed, or if they did, they were condescending.The_Crusader said:
Oh my, the irony.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Guess the devs hoped that by removing the "LOL's" that survivor mains would quit spamming all killer buff posts with it whilst contributing nothing to the discussion.JanTheMan said:Nooooo!!!
There was definitely some people abusing it but not the people you think it was.
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What is gonna be the new downvote? Awesome I assume?
Jesus sometimes I really wonder..... BHVR at its job
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If I remember correctly, you don't play killer then.The_Crusader said:
No #########, it's basically just "don't buff the side I don't play".Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
I'll admit, some of the posts deserved the lols. Killers would do it to survivor posts too. But there were many times people would have logical ideas that would like 20-25 lols and NO-ONE would explain why they disagreed, or if they did, they were condescending.The_Crusader said:
Oh my, the irony.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Guess the devs hoped that by removing the "LOL's" that survivor mains would quit spamming all killer buff posts with it whilst contributing nothing to the discussion.JanTheMan said:Nooooo!!!
There was definitely some people abusing it but not the people you think it was.
Back to topic.
There really was no reason to remove them.6 -
First they came for the vote down react, and I didn't speak up, because I did not vote down.
Then they came for the abuse react, and I didn't speak up, because I did not use think it was abuse.
Then they came for the spam react, and I didn't speak up, because I did not call opinions spam.Then they came for me, and no one was left to defend me.
RIP lol. Dec 7 2018
Seriously though.
Please reconsider this mods. While we can't all agree on the forum, is it not better to just let someone hit a lol react rather than go through with actually typing out something toxic and causing more arguments that get ugly fast? Plus then we can see if our bad jokes are actually a hit or not.4 -
They removed the downvotes and so the lol became the new downvote. :P
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@PiiFree said:
@BeanieEnthusiast said:
Now we can just comment 'LOL' instead.LOL (Imaginary LOLs counter: +1)
+1 LOL
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@Wolf74 said:
They removed the downvotes and so the lol became the new downvote. :P+1 LOL
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@EntityDispleased said:
Can we get a LMAO button instead?I'd rather suggest a GL HF FU button.
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@BeanieEnthusiast said:
@Wolf74 said:
They removed the downvotes and so the lol became the new downvote. :P+1 LOL
Awesome is the new LoL?
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Nah I'm just gonna type +1 LOL
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@RuneStarr said:
Wow, now no one will know how hilarious or controversial I am.
I was proud of my 250+ LOLs dammit!
Bring back LOL react!First, they removed "Vote Downs", now this?
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@RSBPeanits said:people would run a bot or even just manually use a bunch of alt accounts to spam reactions (almost always LOL) on people they disagree with. I'm talking thousands overnight. Those guys have been dealt with, but it still kept happening every once in a while.
Told you it wasn't me.2 -
@Peanits said:
We had a few instances where people would run a bot or even just manually use a bunch of alt accounts to spam reactions (almost always LOL) on people they disagree with. I'm talking thousands overnight.
Out of curiosity... what was the issue with this? Was it a server thing, or did someone complain about getting all those LoLs? Because you can only LoL a post once... or were they LoLing on and off? I'm just trying to understand if the concern was for the server or the person.
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lol
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LoLPeasant said:@RuneStarr said:
Wow, now no one will know how hilarious or controversial I am.
I was proud of my 250+ LOLs dammit!
Bring back LOL react!First, they removed "Vote Downs", now this?
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So now we are left with two redundant options.
I genuinely lol.
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@Peanits said:
So we're going to try this out for a while. Hopefully we'll be able to get a tighter reaction system some day, but for now we're going to roll with this and see how it goes. The silver lining is that this might promote some constructive discussions. Rather than just dog-piling on someone you disagree with and flooding them with LOLs, someone's going to have to post why they think it's a bad idea and then everyone can upvote that.
Is there any plans to update other parts of the forum anytime soon or is that out the window. idk about anyone else but I find the notification system kind of annoying because it doesn't take me to oldest new post on a thread if there's a lot of new post. Instead I usually have to manually go back a page because it only shows me the last 3 notifications.
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@MisterCremaster said:
@Peanits said:
We had a few instances where people would run a bot or even just manually use a bunch of alt accounts to spam reactions (almost always LOL) on people they disagree with. I'm talking thousands overnight.
Out of curiosity... what was the issue with this? Was it a server thing, or did someone complain about getting all those LoLs? Because you can only LoL a post once... or were they LoLing on and off? I'm just trying to understand if the concern was for the server or the person.
They would have dozens of alt accounts set up to automatically LOL posts. So some people ended up with thousands of LOLs because of it.
@Dustin said:
@Peanits said:
So we're going to try this out for a while. Hopefully we'll be able to get a tighter reaction system some day, but for now we're going to roll with this and see how it goes. The silver lining is that this might promote some constructive discussions. Rather than just dog-piling on someone you disagree with and flooding them with LOLs, someone's going to have to post why they think it's a bad idea and then everyone can upvote that.
Is there any plans to update other parts of the forum anytime soon or is that out the window. idk about anyone else but I find the notification system kind of annoying because it doesn't take me to oldest new post on a thread if there's a lot of new post. Instead I usually have to manually go back a page because it only shows me the last 3 notifications.
It's all still being worked on. If you've got specific things in mind that you'd like to see changed, I'd suggest dropping them into the Forum Feedback subforum. We check it often.
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@Peanits said:
Then LOL sorta' took over that place. Fair enough, we didn't really mind, even if it is a little more rude than a downvote. No biggy. But then a couple other problems surfaced. We had a few instances where people would run a bot or even just manually use a bunch of alt accounts to spam reactions (almost always LOL) on people they disagree with. I'm talking thousands overnight. Those guys have been dealt with, but it still kept happening every once in a while. Beyond that, there were a bunch of times where someone would follow someone around and LOL every single one of their posts (and yes, we can see who). This also lead some people to accuse other people for it, often innocent people.... it was bots?
All that ######### slinging and paranoia over bots? Well, at least that's amusing. Does say a lot about this community though...
By the way, is this forum ever going to keep a feature that lets people passively disagree with each other? I'm not a fan of forced positivity.
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I rate this post an L out of L
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Its a nice change, but will we ever see the missing avatars?0
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@Peanits said:
It's all still being worked on. If you've got specific things in mind that you'd like to see changed, I'd suggest dropping them into the Forum Feedback subforum. We check it often.https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/7170/notifications-on-new-posts
I posted this back in July. Haven't really seen any threads about the notification system so I don't know if people don't really care about it or if it's already been discussed.
Either way thanks for at least confirming forums are still being worked on.
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this ######### is genjake worthy
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I bet its because people were using them to mock/dislike other people's posts. Its why they got rid of the thumbs down one, too.
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Lmao get a grip. See this trying to fit everyone in a box mentality is the problem.Tsulan said:
If I remember correctly, you don't play killer then.The_Crusader said:
No #########, it's basically just "don't buff the side I don't play".Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
I'll admit, some of the posts deserved the lols. Killers would do it to survivor posts too. But there were many times people would have logical ideas that would like 20-25 lols and NO-ONE would explain why they disagreed, or if they did, they were condescending.The_Crusader said:
Oh my, the irony.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Guess the devs hoped that by removing the "LOL's" that survivor mains would quit spamming all killer buff posts with it whilst contributing nothing to the discussion.JanTheMan said:Nooooo!!!
There was definitely some people abusing it but not the people you think it was.
Back to topic.
There really was no reason to remove them.
Defending the survivor side a bit doesn't make me anti-killer.
Hell most of my posts here are just me moaning about Decisive Strike.3 -
Phew! Finally, found the thread that revealed what was announced earlier today during the Game Awards.
Good riddance. Please bring more reactions.0 -
@Peanits said:
The first problem came with downvotes. There were some other functions attached to downvotes that could not be removed, namely that after a certain number of downvotes, the post would be hidden. That's out of the question because it basically means that anyone with an unpopular opinion is effectively silenced (or in the case of large threads, anyone with an opinion in general on the first page or so). So unfortunately, downvotes had to go. Downvotes are really key here, LOL became a negative thing because we had to get rid of them.Then LOL sorta' took over that place. Fair enough, we didn't really mind, even if it is a little more rude than a downvote. No biggy. But then a couple other problems surfaced. We had a few instances where people would run a bot or even just manually use a bunch of alt accounts to spam reactions (almost always LOL) on people they disagree with. I'm talking thousands overnight. Those guys have been dealt with, but it still kept happening every once in a while. Beyond that, there were a bunch of times where someone would follow someone around and LOL every single one of their posts (and yes, we can see who). This also lead some people to accuse other people for it, often innocent people.
So if the downvotes were associated/attached to other functions that you could not remove, couldn't you just have made one that was called down vote, but where it isn't attached to those functions? I mean you could make the LOLs that weren't attached to any negative forum function, so if you could make that, it would make sense you could make any type of vote without the negative function attachment to it.
However, this doesn't change the fact that it could still be abused to make something seem like it's disliked a lot, in much the same way as it was with the LOLs. This indicates a problem with the forum, namely the security part of it. Because if it's that easy to abuse, then you need a tighter security system in place.
How could this be fixed? It would seem the problem comes from how easy it is to make alternate accounts.
I've already suggested this before, namely that there should only be one official forum account per game key. This would solve a lot of problems, namely the abuse, because you can see who's voting for what, and thus you can easily shut it down, and it won't be as easy to just make a new alternate account, it would suddenly become quite costly to try and abuse the system because you'd a new game key every time, which also would also would take care of all those spambots. I don't think it would be that hard to implement, I know Paradox does something like this and it works very well.0 -
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LOLRuneStarr said:Wow, now no one will know how hilarious or controversial I am.
I was proud of my 250+ LOLs dammit!
Bring back LOL react!0 -
Stop living in a fantasy world where literally everything you dislike is due to survivors, please. Those who play killer or survivor are not fundamentally different people.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Guess the devs hoped that by removing the "LOL's" that survivor mains would quit spamming all killer buff posts with it whilst contributing nothing to the discussion.JanTheMan said:Nooooo!!!4 -
Yes, but now you ruined my meme...Peanits said:Heyo. So I should probably explain.
In the perfect world, we'd have all the reactions and everything would be great. You could upvote things that were good, downvote things that were bad, awesome things you think are awesome, and LOL things that made you laugh.
The first problem came with downvotes. There were some other functions attached to downvotes that could not be removed, namely that after a certain number of downvotes, the post would be hidden. That's out of the question because it basically means that anyone with an unpopular opinion is effectively silenced (or in the case of large threads, anyone with an opinion in general on the first page or so). So unfortunately, downvotes had to go. Downvotes are really key here, LOL became a negative thing because we had to get rid of them.
Then LOL sorta' took over that place. Fair enough, we didn't really mind, even if it is a little more rude than a downvote. No biggy. But then a couple other problems surfaced. We had a few instances where people would run a bot or even just manually use a bunch of alt accounts to spam reactions (almost always LOL) on people they disagree with. I'm talking thousands overnight. Those guys have been dealt with, but it still kept happening every once in a while. Beyond that, there were a bunch of times where someone would follow someone around and LOL every single one of their posts (and yes, we can see who). This also lead some people to accuse other people for it, often innocent people.
As much as LOL was a good thing, it was also abused. A lot.
So we're going to try this out for a while. Hopefully we'll be able to get a tighter reaction system some day, but for now we're going to roll with this and see how it goes. The silver lining is that this might promote some constructive discussions. Rather than just dog-piling on someone you disagree with and flooding them with LOLs, someone's going to have to post why they think it's a bad idea and then everyone can upvote that.
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lol
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@Peanits said:
@MisterCremaster said:
@Peanits said:
We had a few instances where people would run a bot or even just manually use a bunch of alt accounts to spam reactions (almost always LOL) on people they disagree with. I'm talking thousands overnight.
Out of curiosity... what was the issue with this? Was it a server thing, or did someone complain about getting all those LoLs? Because you can only LoL a post once... or were they LoLing on and off? I'm just trying to understand if the concern was for the server or the person.
They would have dozens of alt accounts set up to automatically LOL posts. So some people ended up with thousands of LOLs because of it.
@Dustin said:
@Peanits said:
So we're going to try this out for a while. Hopefully we'll be able to get a tighter reaction system some day, but for now we're going to roll with this and see how it goes. The silver lining is that this might promote some constructive discussions. Rather than just dog-piling on someone you disagree with and flooding them with LOLs, someone's going to have to post why they think it's a bad idea and then everyone can upvote that.
Is there any plans to update other parts of the forum anytime soon or is that out the window. idk about anyone else but I find the notification system kind of annoying because it doesn't take me to oldest new post on a thread if there's a lot of new post. Instead I usually have to manually go back a page because it only shows me the last 3 notifications.
It's all still being worked on. If you've got specific things in mind that you'd like to see changed, I'd suggest dropping them into the Forum Feedback subforum. We check it often.
Who had the highest LOL count? Inquiring minds want to know!
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I have a feeling "awesome" is going to turn into the new LOL and people will use it sarcastically.
I cannot believe people are so uptight about the LOL and in their feelings about internet forum points. I would have preferred if whoever removed the LOL would focus their time on the Asian forum posts late at night selling degrees and figuring out how to prevent them from spamming the forums with it.
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One upset fox is all it takes.... Sigh0
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