@Devs, How is a killer to counter Hold w and immediately drop pallets?

Not a clue, thats why I asked for your suggestions. The stamina bar is just overkill and not needed in this game otherwise you're just going to tip the scales too far. Too many killers would become too oppressive that way. I dont even really encounter W Gamers in my games.

But you also admitted you dont even really know what to do and just said to remake the entire game.😚

Just thought of this off the top of my head, but what if survivors got some sort of status effect after dropping more than 1 pallet in rapid succession. Say they insta-drop a jungle gym pallet then run to shack pallet and drop that immediately too, at that point they get an effect that either slows them down for a few seconds or makes them stop and catch their breath, making them lose distance for using up resources so fast.

Or on the killer side, breaking a pallet grants a very short buff that increases breaking speed so you can chew through pallets when survivors drop them immediately.

Just food for thought however.

Evenly distribute pressure.

Hit them once, If you can’t down them quickly break a pallet and go find another. Rinse repeat. Except to lose 2-3 gens at the start.

Is the survivor your chasing running to an area is where no gens exist? It’s a trap.

If you want honest advice share a youtube link of your gameplay, can almost guarantee you’re doing something wrong

If a survivor loops a pallet, there is usually a fair bit of outplay potential, especially given the different killer powers. If a pallet is too safe, break it and try again on a less safe pallet.

If you want me to analyze the various mistakes Tru3 made in his matches against Oracle and specifically those he did in chases, I can do that. Missing basic attacks is not conducive to performing well against one of the very best teams in the world, for one thing. Wraith is certainly not a strong enough killer to be able to consistently 4k against the best teams in the world, no matter the player, but better players than Tru3 that are more experienced in facing such teams certainly would (and do) do better than him. 2 kills are entirely possible and not uncommon for lower-tier killers in tournaments, and even 3-4 not impossible.

Footage showcasing the specific issue you are referring to would definitely help to have more of an actual discussion on it.

I guess by adapting. Just like survivors have to adapt to Spirit, Deathslinger, Pyramid Head, etc.

Seems pretty straightforward.

Because some of the more popular slowdown perks need gen pressure. How can we pressure 3 or 4 gens at the same time if they split up? Even two is hard enough if they are on opposite sides of the map.

You can hit and run but they get hit and go right back on the gen when you leave to pressure the other one. If you commit to a chase the other person goes right back on that gen.

Three genning only works partially because you hit them then they hold W to the other side of the map, heal, split up and slowly proceed with the gens.

You cannot pressure every gen even with slowdown perks. Hex spawns are terrible and are normally found quite quickly unless you get a lucky match, leaving you with an empty perk slot. High risk/high reward I know but when the risk is removed within the first minute or two there is barely any reward at all, if any.

People want bloodlust removed too, that's the only counter right now to the W strategy unless you are a highly mobile killer. If this goes at least one or two gens will pop before the killer even catches up to them, let alone hit them.

Survivors used to run to loops to avoid the killer, not huff it as far away as possible, maybe take a hit on the bigger maps to get even further.

Play a killer that can deal with W.

Blight's a good option if you care to dedicate the time to learn him cuz he's the first or second most complex killer in the game.

Nurse is good if you dedicate the time to learn her. If you're good with her you shouldn't care about W.

Spirit is another great option, has a much lower skill floor than Nurse or Blight, so a good option to start.

Wraith is another decent option. He moves fast and doesn't have to chase too much since hit and run is his best playstyle.

Hag is another great option since she doesn't chase. She sets up her traps and then herds survivors towards them. She doesn't care about W.

Brother I have seen post of people literally saying "survivors need to loop and not hold Shift+w" 🤣

This is a horror game running is a part of it, I don't know if you guys are serious at this point. You guys realize this is the most polarizing complains in this game? If you guys are actually serious?

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You need to remember that the vast majority of other asymmetrical games failed due to either money or legal reasons, or simply never was intended to be played at all.

F13 died due to legal reasons. Evolve died in part because of greed. Last Year committed suicide by being a Left 4 Dead clone. Hide or Die never knew what it wanted to be and went through massive change after massive change. Then you have the countless other games that never got a chance because they wasn't worth playing to start with.

The real reason though the vast majority of games fail is for 1 simple reasons. Either a publisher or investor thought they wasn't making enough money and killed the project, while also likely firing its dev teams to save even more cash. It is rarely about the community or balance.

I can for an almost certain fact say that DbD would have never survived this long if BHVR didn't buy the rights to DbD from its publisher back in 2018. Starbreeze would have killed the game off LONG ago and forced the devs onto other projects or out of a job.

That wasnt really my point, there just isnt another game like DBD that has high skill level balance, there's no point of reference. You shouldnt be comparing DBD balancing to LOL or Fortnite. I probably could have worded myself earlier before when referring to the genre, not the balancing and surviving.