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@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
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No point in taking away the ONLY scary aspect out of a "horror" game. Myers has counterplay, be it stealth, awareness, looping, and taking advantage of his non-optimal map presence.
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Welcome to DbD, a game like any other that you need to learn to play before screaming to nerf stuff
Since this must be your first online game look it up any other online game, to master it you need to spend time on it12 -
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3.This is what happens when people take bad tier lists for truth ....
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@White_Owl said:
This is what happens when people take bad tier lists for truth ....
Leatherface is B-tier.
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Look around?
Also trapper can trap loops, trapper can lure people to places he's trapped, myers can't so he's quite easy to loop. He has to waste his time stalking people before he can instadown people. So just stay out of sight and you should be fine.
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@Delfador said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
In as strong as trapper i meant he have the same speed and lunge, so he should have the same terror radius too but it's fookin 12 meters smaller. At tier one he basically have -2 meters terror radius ffs (said trapper cuz hes the template of normal killers). And about the other stuff, no there is no counter to him doing the no terror radius sheet ulness you're a nolifer playing this game for 2500+ hours of course, or the RNG gods granted you a map where he sucks (like swamp). Hag is allso bullshit tho everyone hates her.
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Stealth is Myers gimmick. Go watch the old movies, he is in the background in most scenes doing his peeper shtick. He plays how he acts. Just keep an eye on ambush points while making repairs. With regular tr his power is staring at you until he is fed up, boring for everybody.0
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Deleted that too.Meyers and Spirit have this thing called "outplay potential" ... If you do not want to put in the time or effort to learn counters to certain killers then i dont know what to tell you. Mikey is fine as is. Billy, Mike and Spirit are all fairly balanced Imho.
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@DemonDaddy said:
Stealth is Myers gimmick. Go watch the old movies, he is in the background in most scenes doing his peeper shtick. He plays how he acts. Just keep an eye on ambush points while making repairs. With regular tr his power is staring at you until he is fed up, boring for everybody.At tier l. his fine whatever. But 8 meters wide terror radius at tier ll. is unacceptable. Beign cannon to the movie shouldn't be a higher priority than a fun and balanced gameplay. Although he would be fine BUT M&A makes him just as overpovered as his ultra rare add-ons, but the difference is you have it in every game cuz it's a perk. Either tier ii. needs a nerf, or make M&A only work when he's at tier III. but currently this perk makes him outrageusly unfair. Spirit and Billy requires some skill at least. But Myres is nothing but a braindead M1 ki8ller whit no TR and haunted grounds that he can pop any time he wants.
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@Malakir said:
Welcome to DbD, a game like any other that you need to learn to play before screaming to nerf stuffSince this must be your first online game look it up any other online game, to master it you need to spend time on it
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Or nerf Myres all you want. But leave Myers alone.
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@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3.He is top 3?? I must have missed that memo… O.o
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@Wolf74 said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3.He is top 3?? I must have missed that memo… O.o
Everyone runs their own "killers I suck against" tier list, that's probably the top 3 being talked about.
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Dude have you ever seen Myers get completely wrecked before? I've seen dozens of matches where he gets one kill and it's all because those players know not to get seen, they hide, they don't let him get stalk and when someone gets hooked and he has T3 no one goes for the save until his T3 is back to 2 because that's smart. They go for the save when he's distracted by someone else and if your buddy is on a hook at the end and he's getting camped then open both doors, sneak in and have a distract while someone goes for the save with Borrowed Time and then rocket out of there before he gets his T3 again.
Also he can't always use T3 so intentionally getting him to WASTE his T3 would help you out a lot since he would technically have no power to use and he'd be crap. You should watch some vids on how to beat Myers and actually try to learn how before crying for a nerf. Some people still say that Freddy needs to be nerfed and those people are crybaby noobs who can't handle ma boi's claw stroking their face all sexual like.
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He's possibly one of the most balanced killers but yeah let's totally nerf what's not OP!!! Great idea, just like Freddy!!!
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
He's possibly one of the most balanced killers but yeah let's totally nerf what's not OP!!! Great idea, just like Freddy!!!..or Doc next patch. :P
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I get it, tr is a huge advantage to take away from survivors. In that sense though not having the tr is what makes him unique. Because he has to tier up for movement speed, the lack of tr is really the first half of his power. At tier 2 he is basically trapper with no power, the small tr is his aid for lack of chase options. Everything for tier 3 just makes tr bigger as he is at the most dangerous, so setting m&a for just that tier carries no build synergy. I agree that a good stealthy Myers is a serious threat and can go bad quickly, but also feel that it makes surviving much more rewarding.Kwanghyun said:@DemonDaddy said:
Stealth is Myers gimmick. Go watch the old movies, he is in the background in most scenes doing his peeper shtick. He plays how he acts. Just keep an eye on ambush points while making repairs. With regular tr his power is staring at you until he is fed up, boring for everybody.At tier l. his fine whatever. But 8 meters wide terror radius at tier ll. is unacceptable. Beign cannon to the movie shouldn't be a higher priority than a fun and balanced gameplay. Although he would be fine BUT M&A makes him just as overpovered as his ultra rare add-ons, but the difference is you have it in every game cuz it's a perk. Either tier ii. needs a nerf, or make M&A only work when he's at tier III. but currently this perk makes him outrageusly unfair. Spirit and Billy requires some skill at least. But Myres is nothing but a braindead M1 ki8ller whit no TR and haunted grounds that he can pop any time he wants.
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myers is not even in the top 3...
where did you take this information from?
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Is awesome the new lol?
I hope so. This thread is "awesome".
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@Attackfrog said:
Is awesome the new lol?I hope so. This thread is "awesome".
Will they now remove the "awesome"?
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Oh wow, another entitled survivor mains asking to nerf a perfectly balanced killer. He's probably the only scary killer as well(+ spirit), also who is myres? I only know of a Michael Myers, not a myres.
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If only their was some tell tale sign that hes close like his massive deep breathing(sarcasm). Myers punishes survivours who rely on terror radius alone. You should be using a killers footsteps and breathing as well. I absolutly despise survivours who cry op before going on the forums and saying how do i fight this? Instead we get this killer circumvent a key element nerf it all my killer opponets should have the same standard rules. It limits design space when you go around half cocked complaining.
Again listen for his heavy breathing and footsteps. Avoid gens that are in enclosed areas with blocked fields of view. Circle your camera around constantly so he dosent get the drop on you. Saves should be done when you are certain myers is on someone else. Never ever heal around the hook area and make sure when your healing its close to a safe pallet. Myers is in top area of mid tier killers. He doesnet even scratch the power levels of nurse, spirirt or hillbilly. He fine as is I'd argue sometimes too weak but thats mostly gen rush being a problem not Myer's.2 -
@Attackfrog said:
Is awesome the new lol?I hope so. This thread is "awesome".
I predicted it. Soon people will start to abuse it and they will remove it XD
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Mc_Harty said:
@White_Owl said:
This is what happens when people take bad tier lists for truth ....
Leatherface is B-tier.
I'd lol your post but they removed the option.
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@thekiller490490 said:
Mc_Harty said:@White_Owl said:
This is what happens when people take bad tier lists for truth ....
Leatherface is B-tier.
I'd lol your post but they removed the option.
It looks like awesome is the new lol, lol! Wish is actually pretty awesome!
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@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.Stfu and git gud obviously you aren't good enough to loop him it's so ez.
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@BingBongBoi said:
Oh wow, another entitled survivor mains asking to nerf a perfectly balanced killer. He's probably the only scary killer as well(+ spirit), also who is myres? I only know of a Michael Myers, not a myres.This guy is just bad if he thinks Myers needs a nerf and he's 'as trong as trapper'. He needs to git gud.
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@Delfador said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
Huntress is = to myers.
Nurse, Spirit, Hag, Billy, Huntress/Myers is my way of saying it.0 -
@Wolf74 said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3.He is top 3?? I must have missed that memo… O.o
Well, not for you. You pull your cord at rank 13 with Myers
But no, he's not. The OP is just delusional or baiting
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Tbh he's easily to spotted from a far, cause of his bright-white mask and he's basically tall
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It’s called situational awareness.1
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@Poweas said:
@Delfador said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
Huntress is = to myers.
Nurse, Spirit, Hag, Billy, Huntress/Myers is my way of saying it.Definitely not true.
You can loop Myers just like any other killer, except for small bonus vault speed that he gains when he reaches evil within 3, there is not much difference between him and the rest of the m1 crew. He is just superior to all of other m1 killers.
Huntress has much more potential than Myers and in the right hands she is more deadly.
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I do not know what a Myres is... you can nerf that dude sure just don't touch Micheal Myers
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look mate, i made the same discussion and its a mistake. i was in the same spot as you, you can even check on my account it should be the discussion called ''im an idiot theres not much point in joining'' and its called that for a reason. if these people dont change your mind then please look at my chat because it will show you my curve from me thinking im right to me regretting making the discussion.
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@Kwanghyun said:
@Delfador said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
In as strong as trapper i meant he have the same speed and lunge, so he should have the same terror radius too but it's fookin 12 meters smaller. At tier one he basically have -2 meters terror radius ffs (said trapper cuz hes the template of normal killers). And about the other stuff, no there is no counter to him doing the no terror radius sheet ulness you're a nolifer playing this game for 2500+ hours of course, or the RNG gods granted you a map where he sucks (like swamp). Hag is allso bullshit tho everyone hates her.
the trapper is strong if you master him or are low rank, for me its a bit of both if you consider rank 10 low. myres and trapper are nothing alike.
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Give me some of that stuff you smoke
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If you look around at the beginning of every roundaand see just run away and break line of sight. And unless you play a killer you can't pass judgement since you have 0 idea what's it's like to BE them0
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@Delfador said:
Huntress has much more potential than Myers and in the right hands she is more deadly.Somehow I doubt that Huntress is better than Myers.
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@Delfador said:
@Poweas said:
@Delfador said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
Huntress is = to myers.
Nurse, Spirit, Hag, Billy, Huntress/Myers is my way of saying it.Definitely not true.
You can loop Myers just like any other killer, except for small bonus vault speed that he gains when he reaches evil within 3, there is not much difference between him and the rest of the m1 crew. He is just superior to all of other m1 killers.
Huntress has much more potential than Myers and in the right hands she is more deadly.
I just had a game with her at base she's pretty solid. I take back all the times I called her weak
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@Poweas said:
@Delfador said:
@Poweas said:
@Delfador said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
Huntress is = to myers.
Nurse, Spirit, Hag, Billy, Huntress/Myers is my way of saying it.Definitely not true.
You can loop Myers just like any other killer, except for small bonus vault speed that he gains when he reaches evil within 3, there is not much difference between him and the rest of the m1 crew. He is just superior to all of other m1 killers.
Huntress has much more potential than Myers and in the right hands she is more deadly.
I just had a game with her at base she's pretty solid. I take back all the times I called her weak
Well yeah, She's pretty strong, although not the strongest killer, definitely not better than Myers tbh.
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@Ihatelife said:
Tbh he's easily to spotted from a far, cause of his bright-white mask and he's basically tallim pretty sure in cannon mike's 6 foot 8 inches (can some one tell me how to write that). i think hes more then tall.
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@Toxicity23 said:
@Poweas said:
@Delfador said:
@Poweas said:
@Delfador said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
Huntress is = to myers.
Nurse, Spirit, Hag, Billy, Huntress/Myers is my way of saying it.Definitely not true.
You can loop Myers just like any other killer, except for small bonus vault speed that he gains when he reaches evil within 3, there is not much difference between him and the rest of the m1 crew. He is just superior to all of other m1 killers.
Huntress has much more potential than Myers and in the right hands she is more deadly.
I just had a game with her at base she's pretty solid. I take back all the times I called her weak
Well yeah, She's pretty strong, although not the strongest killer, definitely not better than Myers tbh.
There is a streamer called ZubatLEL and I highly recommend you to watch him. You will understand what I meant by potential.
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@Delfador said:
There is a streamer called ZubatLEL and I highly recommend you to watch him. You will understand what I meant by potential.I'm just goin' off by Rank 1 standards. Just because a killer can kill people from range, doesn't really mean it's the new meta. Frankly, with Myers, he just tosses "Long-ass Chases" and "Teabagging survivors after hitting Myers with pallet or after they vault." right out the window. Besides, which would you rather go for: "Requirement for consistency of shots and careful positioning to punish survivors looping during chase, while also look in lockers constantly just to reload" or "Grab people off gens and don't initiate a chase at all, forcing survivors to spend more time rescuing and less time doing gens."
Yes, I won't deny it: ZubatLEL DOES handle huntress pretty well, and proves she has loads of potential in the right hands. But I'd rather catch the survivor the minute I see them instead of having to deal with a, possible, toxic player. In summary: Myers and Huntress are in good "Shape", but for now, Myers is better than Huntress, due to Myers' ability to choose his approach, "Great Chase Potential" and "Extraordinary Stealth Potential" and don't forget, Myers can pull out Insta-kills right outta his arse. But Huntress is moderately better than Myers in some ways, frankly, I dunno specifically what Huntress is good at, but all I know is that people can stop loops consistently with her.
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In as strong as trapper i meant he have the same speed and lunge, so he should have the same terror radius too but it's fookin 12 meters smaller. At tier one he basically have -2 meters terror radius ffs (said trapper cuz hes the template of normal killers). And about the other stuff, no there is no counter to him doing the no terror radius sheet ulness you're a nolifer playing this game for 2500+ hours of course, or the RNG gods granted you a map where he sucks (like swamp). Hag is allso bullshit tho everyone hates her.
Or just look around when on a gen instead of staring off into space?
He has a small terror radius in Tier 1 and is also slow AF, so he isn't equal to Trapper like in your analogy.
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@Delfador said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
Huntress stronger than Myers? No way. Myers is way better than Huntress is. Only way Huntress is scary is if she has an iridescent head because of the broken hatchet hitboxes. Other than that she is easily loopable once out of hatchets.
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@MegMain98 said:
@Delfador said:
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
Huntress stronger than Myers? No way. Myers is way better than Huntress is. Only way Huntress is scary is if she has an iridescent head because of the broken hatchet hitboxes. Other than that she is easily loopable once out of hatchets.
Looping myers is a lot easier than huntress. He has constant 115% ms.
The only way you can loop huntress better than Myers is when the huntress is terrible.
If nothing, RNG decides whether you are gonna get hit by a huntress. She can pull out her hatchet at the pallet or continue to chase you. Myers is much more predictable.
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@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.You must not realize that he's also slow asf. He can't even use his power right off the bat. He has to stare at survivors just to use it. He's not strong at all.
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@MegMain98 said:
Huntress stronger than Myers? No way. Myers is way better than Huntress is. Only way Huntress is scary is if she has an iridescent head because of the broken hatchet hitboxes. Other than that she is easily loopable once out of hatchets.
Are you serious?
1. Nurse
2. Billy
3. HUNTRESS (maybe Clown and Hag)
4. Myers
… every other killer…
(And somewhere in the dark basement Legion is now comforting Freddy "hush, dude, your not alone anymore".)
Basically EVERY player ever made a tierlist ranked Huntress above Myers.
She is the 3rd strongest killer (not when I play her of course, but that's a different story)..0 -
@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.Honestly, the more posts like these I see, the more I figure that some people play DBD for like 20 hours total across 7 months or something.
And only play Survivor.
At Rank 20.
In KYF.
With one other person.
Who is AFK.I'm going to assume that this post isn't the obvious bait that it is and just answer as if it was a real concern raised by an actual human who isn't giggling to themselves right now.
I'm not going to go into specific mechanics about Myers' terror radius or lack thereof, I'm just going to mention that Survivors have a 3rd person camera that they can rotate around at any time. Survivors can therefore achieve such inhuman feats as being able to see a mile behind them while focusing on repairing a gen and facing the wall.
You can even look around corners and align yourself in such a way that you have perfect spatial awareness and can see Myers well before he is within stalking distance.Furthermore, Myers has a plethora of weaknesses that range from starting the match moving at almost the same speed as Survivors (slowest non-Nurse Killer in the game) and having the lunge range of a particularly ambitious poodle... using only his paw.
In order to leave this hellish experience, Myers must waste a lot of time chasing Survivors and trying to stalk them - because Survivors who don't just play the game at Rank 20 with their AFK roommate don't just sit obliviously and let Myers stalk his way to Tier 2. They see him coming ahead of time and starve the ever-living f$%^ out of him by breaking line of sight and getting more and more distance on him until he's forced to try and juggle "stalk feedings" and hope that the next Survivor he tries to sneak up on just happens to not be rotating their camera in his direction.After leaving the god-awful Tier 1, Myers is now an uncloaked Wraith with minimal terror radius (if using both M&A with the Dead Rabbit addon). Whether or not he can pop Tier 3 is irrelevant since in both "forms" Myers has all the loop-countering potential of a particularly frustrated Hillbilly. In other words, we're back to poodle comparisons.
To put it diplomatically, Myers is extremely allergic to looping. Like most Killers. He has the threat of an instadown but that threat doesn't mean much if he can't get a single hit by the time 60 seconds have passed. Even if he can, he will usually lose 1-2 gens to a decent looper on most maps and after getting a hook he has no ability to rotate fast enough to stop more gens from popping.
Myers is at best a "mid-tier" Killer - he has a.... pretty good tool in the right situations, but it has a lot of dependencies and factors that come with it and he has no map control or mobility beyond that of an uncloaked Wraith / Trapper with no traps / Hillbilly who forgot his chainsaw at home / that poodle again.
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