keys with zero charges can no longer open the hatch.

This is just an adjustment due to the Franklin's change we got with RE chapter.

Keys (and Moris again) are still being changed according to the 5th anniversary stream.

if you mean slugging then I get you. But if I usually hide it in the beginning, I prefer a chest. So if I go down others can hopefully find it and use it.

Solo players are going to continue to be hurt by people who stop playing, if they even start at all, just so they can get hatch.

I don't think it's keys that needed the change as much as the hatch. Hatch shouldn't spawn until there is one person left. And then the trophy for all four escaping via hatch needs to go. I'm tired of losing games because one person camps it while I try to get the last gen done, and theyre found and the hatch is instantly closed. They screw us both over. It actually helps the killer in a lot of situations, not that any killer would ever admit that.

Biggest fix is very easy for keys.

Hatch should only spawn if only 1 survivor left alive, there fixed.

I dont understand why devs wont do this.

Also if 2 survivor left alive, with gens to be done, not doing gens after 1 min, should make endgame collapse to start.

So easy to fix problems

Rarely as a solo player(almost 3k hours) do i get screwed over by someone camping the hatch. For me its hard tunneling and face camping and their great value walmart servers creating screw ups for the killer capitalize on(ie: getting a m1 hit when i'm 10 feet from the window even with lithe). Plenty of people don't get the same problems as others regardless of the role we play though.

If you take away all 4 players escaping, you cut off a big part of the game, and create an even bigger problem for (solo)survivors. Because at least half the games I play, the exit gates spawn close enough you can see between. Even on bigger maps. I almost always know where the hatch is, next to an exit gate or somewhere between them. There is no deviation from this, since it is a constant(at least for me). Which honestly, all of the above makes the game really stale.

You still will need to pick it up to use it, if the killer realizes (as in the pickup animation) you dropped it, they'll make a point in watching that area, and chase you off from grabbing it back up. It takes just one smack on the survivor in a chase down.

I hope there is more changes cause this means that people can just place the key somewhere so it doesn't lose it's charges.

In my solo games, the last 2 survivors usually dont attempt to do gens, and playing immersed, waiting for the other one to die and the killer searching for one, can take 10+ minutes.

You see there is no point the game continue when there is only 2 survivors left because impossible to do gens anyway, so why waste time?

I can imagine for the killer not much fun to find the last 2 immersed player in the end.

Of course sometimes one of us giving up because of boredom, but dont forget this is a flaw that can be exploited, immersed way you can waste so much time, waiting for other to die

But i guess noone will ask you. I play only solo, and they tunnel so often, there is no point in asking why, because the answer is in most cases: winning. Yours might be different, but it doesnt matter if you tunnel someone because he has a key, teabaggs, or has a pride charm, or plays a certain character, or just to win. The result is the same, and the reasons exchangable.

Eh still an irrelevant change I'll just get my keys through chests with plunderers

Not always, I had a couple of Killers let me go for the very reason that I went back for my teammates and sacrificed myself to let the other get out. Not often. But it does happen once in a Blue Moon.

It's just a fix due to the Franklyn's change from last patch