The DBD censors suck, let us turn them off
I'm just saying what I'm sure has been said many times before and what I know a lot of if not most of the community thinks. The censors are just bad. I personally always find censors dumb no matter what because if they're forced players will find some way or another of saying what they wanna say. For starters, why is there not an option to have or to not have censors, a lot of us are not children. Then the censors are just straight up bad, there are so many times that I say something thats not even profane or that I can think of being bad in any sense and yet its censored. Then I'm just sitting there like "what the hell dbd why would that be censored." Its like watching an over protective mom or an annoying teacher say "butt is a bad word." Honestly it should either go completely or at the very least just let us turn it off.
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The pros outweigh the cons- just let it be.
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What pros? "I didn't get called the b-word"? If people are too sensitive to see words then they can press continue and not see the chat, if they want to chat but not see that stuff then leave the censor on if that were an option. There's no downside to letting people say what they want other than people getting their feelings hurt for leaving censor on and even then thats on those people.
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my guess is that it had to follow certain esrb guidelines so not really something behavior has any control over
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Nobody likes to be insulted, though. That's not being "sensitive", it's normal human behavior based on normal human emotions. I feel like the people losing their ######### over not being able to insult others without having those insults blocked are the sensitive ones.
What, exactly, do you need to say that's being blocked by the censor?
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While valid, I feel like in an "adult" horror game (take adult with a huge grain of salt obviously) they should be allowed to let people turn off censors and not be in trouble. Having censors as a default would be a safety net, a warning to turn them off if needed saying "you must be 18 years of age," and they're more than likely fine for stuff like that.
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"Daddy Myers kill us harder please"
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As I said, lot of stuff thats dumb is censored, just random things that I'm like why even. And as I said as well, if you don't like it then leave the censors on or press continue. Move on, why is it forced on everyone.
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Do you know what the legislation is in that regard? What you feel about the situation may not correlate to the facts.
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Man, its almost like I provided a solution that most guidelines are okay with. The only ones that aren't are things for children, which idk if you noticed but a game where people are killed every round isn't exactly super child friendly
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Never had any of those words censored.
I haven't seen dumb stuff censored, though. People claiming that dumb stuff is censored? Absolutely. Actual proof? Not so much. Every time someone says something is censored, someone else will have a screenshot of the words not being censored. So, I ask you again, what, exactly, is being censored that shouldn't be?
PS: Even if there is stuff being censored that shouldn't be, the right course of action would be to make a bug report so the devs can improve on the censor. If the devs took your "throw the baby out with the bath water" approach, the entire game would be deleted due to bugs.
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I just asked if you knew the actual legislation/guidelines/whatever governing these things. If you know, you can just say so. If you don't and are just speculating, you can say that too.
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Okay first off, I don't remember many specific examples nor do most players because we hate the censor as a whole so why would we care about these little things, second since you must have an example, in a game about killing people I said something with "kill you" in the sentence. If the sentence goes "kill you" it censors whereas if its "kill us" it doesnt, so a lot of those things where people were like "mine says it though" is probably minor differences in the order of words. Third off, there is a huge thing you keep ignoring when you say to not get rid of it which is that I asked for the option to turn it off, that doesn't get rid of it, it provides a solution for the sensitive people, and it would please the majority of people who hate these censors like myself. As for the legislation, no I don't know it, why would I know that, therefore I left it pretty heavily implied that I don't know so heres a solution that should more than highly likely satisfy it.
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The reverse can work as well. Those same ppl could argue it’s not that serious to have a clean word censored. “What’s the big deal- find a synonym.” Turning it on or off wouldn’t accomplish anything. For your clean word not to be censored, you would need to turn it off and the people in the chat as well. And even if that was the case, you wouldn’t be able to tell who actually saw your clean word. As for the profanities- same thing. If you drop the F bomb, how will you know the other four people in chat saw it? They could all have their filters on. What’s the point of you seeing your own curse word when you typed it? Why would you want to see someone else cursing?
I apologize I’m not trying to be combative. I really don’t see an issue with it. My guess it’s there to cut down on the toxicity. Some ppl are just flat out lazy and can’t be bothered to take the extra 1 or two steps (like putting spaces in between letters) to circumvent the censoring. And if by them failing to do so makes chat less toxic, I’m all for it. Regardless of toggling an on\off switch.
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Its the big point of free speech. Let me say what I feel like saying whether its particularly nice or not. If other people can't see it then wonderful, I got out my little gamer rage for that match from whether it was camping, tunneling, flashlights, gen rushing, or whatever else. If they got to see my insult great, they know they're scum. If they didn't see it then cool they move on happily. Everyone moves on how they wanted to. If I instead see something stupid and not even an insult or a profanity get censored, now I'm annoyed, maybe I was already annoyed, maybe now I wanna be toxic because censors are dumb. (stupid jump I know but hang with me) Now instead of saying something in a chat where people can press continue or even keep a censor on to be toxic I'm in an actual game, camping, tunneling, ruining someone elses game and making them hate the game.
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Okay first off, I don't remember many specific examples nor do most players because we hate the censor as a whole so why would we care about these little things
Because it seems to bother you a whole lot, so I'd expect you to remember at least a few examples.
You shouldn't assume your opinion is the majority, though. I'd argue most players don't care about it.
second since you must have an example, in a game about killing people I said something with "kill you" in the sentence. If the sentence goes "kill you" it censors whereas if its "kill us" it doesnt, so a lot of those things where people were like "mine says it though" is probably minor differences in the order of words.
Nope. People have claimed that "myers", for example, is censored. Just the word "myers", nothing else. Then someone else posted a screenshot of them saying "myers", uncensored, and I tried it myself just to be sure.
Third off, there is a huge thing you keep ignoring when you say to not get rid of it which is that I asked for the option to turn it off, that doesn't get rid of it, it provides a solution for the sensitive people, and it would please the majority of people who hate these censors like myself.
Again, it's not "sensitive" to not want to be insulted, it's just normal human behavior. And you may or may not be in the majority. My money's on "not".
Why does it even matter, though? If I say "######### corn", the forum automatically censors it, but the context still makes it perfectly clear what I just said.
As for the legislation, no I don't know it, why would I know that, therefore I left it pretty heavily implied that I don't know so heres a solution that should more than highly likely satisfy it.
I have zero information about you. As far as I know, you're in some legal profession and suggested something that you know would satisfy the current legislation. The way you wrote it heavily implied that you did know it.
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Free speech does not exist in private venues. Anyone can kick you out if they don't like what you have to say. You should look up what that concept actually means and, specifically, who (or what) is prevented from curbing what you say.
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Chat filter is needed since this 18 rated game is mostly played by 13yo kids. Next step should be censoring hits and dying animations
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I would legitimately pay for a cosmetic DLC that made the killers have foam swords and basically changed everything to be kid-appropriate, like the Little Sister vision in Bioshock. That sounds funny as hell.
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I can see why you would be upset at the end of a match, but please understand everything you just mentioned is exactly why BHVR has the system in place. You’re entitled to your free speech, but it’s their platform and their entitled to protect their “sensitive” players (as you would call them). I’m sure there is something in the EULA we had to consent to regarding communication. That box we had to check off before we can play.
‘And think about what you’re saying- you want to be able to curse out players in chat for poor performance or scummy play, and it doesn’t matter if they have their filters on to see it?? That’s not healthy, hermano.
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As I've said over and over yet I seem to keep having to repeat myself, make it a choice, where is the harm in a choice to see it. As for the "thats not healthy" ever heard of rage rooms? It is healthy to get emotions out, they're stupid little emotions from a game so its an easy vent of a little line in a chat. If I don't get that then I'll get my satisfaction from a toxic game as killer, which do you prefer? A line of chat people don't even have to see or a 10-15 minute game of 4 players who have to suffer slugging, camping, and tunneling to make them possibly rage quit or as many people I know have done they simply stop playing the game altogether because that stuff is too common and its annoying.
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It's your choice how to process your emotions. Personally, when a game is getting to me, I just stop playing it and go do something else.
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And there you have it, your "choice" what I've been saying, make it a choice
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If someone can prove it's actually censoring things it shouldn't, and there's no way to change that, I'll consider supporting that. However, for what you want to do? No. The whole point of the censor is that it blocks exactly what you want to use the chat for.
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This community is wack now
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Ahh you remind me of old times when people in league of legends tried to appeal a permant ban for toxicity. Good old times.
"I wasn't even toxic, I didn't tell them to end their own lives or their family to get cancer"
Sorry buddy we aren't wacko but you want to vent even for the placebo effect and even indirectly attempt to blackmail/force:
"If I don't get to see my own rage in chat, i will start to play toxic to get it out of my system" instead of maybe making the choice to stop playing a game that induces such rage and anger inside you and do something else.
Or you can't help yourself other than getting this frustrated and angry from a game. And then you should seek professional help for anger Management.
Edit: I am sorry if I come across a.little harsh here but i just don't see any reason to use toxicity as a means to vent ones own rage or anger unto other in an extreme way.
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League? Your opinion means nothing to me anyway
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I actually whole-heartedly agree, I'm not really sure I understand the reasoning as to why we can't disable the chat censor.. in any other game I think I have ever played there was always the option... regardless of ESRB rating btw (cause I saw someone mention that)
I don't swear so the censor doesn't bother me in that way, what is extremely frustrating about the censor is that it seems constantly be censoring words that aren't actually bad words.
For example: JUST in this last match lobby I hate now...
A survivor complimented my horrible nurse practice and I tried to write:
"I did horrible, but ty!"
It came out as "I did horrible, *** **!" - which actually made it look like I was trying to be an ass and talk smack, even though I was legitimately trying to thank the person.
This is just one example, literally "But, ty" was censored. This happens to me all the time, and I'm not trying to say anything rude. It's very annoying and I think it gives people the wrong impression of me.
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This is definitely the more pressing side of the issue tbh, bug fixes and all that need to be there for stuff like that but its so simple to just give the option to turn it off I don't get why its not there.
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Cool. Same. 😎
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And disabling the chat sensor for oneself would help how, in this case?
They may have it still active and will see your comment still with censored.
So you might feel better while still accidentally and unknowingly coming across as rude and suddenly wonder why the other person also answers in a rude manner.
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Ah but see, you took the time to come into "my" forum post with my opinion, read through it, read through others opinions on it, choose to reply to my stuff, and now were here. You cared just a bit.
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You can report these issues to the devs, we have a bug report section for a reason. However, having the option to turn it off for yourself wouldn't do anything. The other person, if they had it on (which I'm guessing most people would have), would still see the same thing that you saw before you'd turned it off.
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I already stated that I enjoyed to read the salt of perma-banned players in league. Why do you think I am on this forum?
I am a killer only player up to this point with meager 250 hours. I play a friendly 8hook no kill style to grind blood points and aliviate the stress for survivor since 2017.
I don't really care for most stuff on here but give my opinion and sometimes enjoy extreme biased threads from one sided "mains".
Your title seemed angerfilled and those are most often interesting.
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You know what. I retract other things, thats pretty based. Good work lmao
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Ehm sorry English is not my mother language and I can't follow. Retract what? Based what?
Simply for my understanding please.
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I take back what I've said, you're doing good respectable stuff
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Ah okay cool 😅
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You should look it up on Google. Usually, when seemingly random words are used in a way that makes no sense to most people, they have the same origin.
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Yeah no I know the words. But i couldnt make sense of the context in which they were used. English is still my second language but sometimes it is hard to get a grasp for the intended meaning.
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Because it's not a normal usage of the word. It's a neologism, coined by a rapper, I believe, and then co-opted by a very different group.
Anyway, I don't want to go off-topic, that's why I said you should look it up on Google.
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I'm going ahead and locking this here as the OP just seems intent on arguing with others.
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