Third Person For Killers

As much as I agree with the sentiment that we should be able to directly experience the cosmetics we buy with our own money as much as possible, messing with the camera is too fundamental to the game's balance to justify the change.

As for adding an alternate mode, I feel that this would do little more than split up the playerbase. I actually brought up the idea of adding alternate modes in another discussion, but I think the differences between it and the base mode would have to be significant enough and interesting enough to justify splitting the queues.

Not for all killers but it could be a feature of a future killer.

The legion was a good candidate but I don't think they will ever add a third person killer to the game.

@Delfador said:
Not for all killers but it could be a feature of a future killer.

The legion was a good candidate but I don't think they will ever add a third person killer to the game.

Well the only have an "average" and "huge" size for the killer's right now. Maybe if they will ever do a Killer, which is technical small, they could go third person with them.
Btw Third-Person for Killers gives them the disadvantage in a chase judging when they hit. Their body is most likely blocking their view. That's why I'm quite fine with the current setup. A small Killer on the other hand might not have that issue...

@Gamer2790 said:
SenzuDuck said:

Game doesn't work in first person for survivors, heres a few reasons why.

* Killers always complain survivors don't juke enough and just "loop" them, the game becomes impossible for survivors to juke if they're staring into walls during their entire chase, it allows them to chose their path so they can stay alive

• The majority of survivor gameplay is spent at a generator or a hook. I'm sure loads of people would be playing this game is they have to stare into a generator for half the game, or stare straight ahead of them while on a while, much excitement

• Killers like Myers, Wraith & Pig would be unbeatable using vision to predict their movement is the biggest reason you get away.

• Killer abilities would become unavoidable, dodge a hatchet? Good luck. Dodge a blink? Good luck, dodge a chainsaw? Good luck.

  The viewmode is there to make the game fair.

  Lol!! I am talking about killers being able to have third person view! I don’t care about survivors being able to switch to first person view!! Playing survivor with first person view would be stupid, boring, and pointless!!! Having third person view as an option for killer would be nice tho!

I mean, in the post originally you stated about them swapping views, and then you've totally edited your post and it makes mine look out of context but ok.

@Gamer2790 said:

That is why I am saying that there should be an alternate mode for players who don’t mind going against killers with third person view. 

This would just split the player base into, "survivors that want a better chance" and "no one else". Similar to the requests for killer to have the option to not have any SWF survivors in their matches.

Realistically, how often do you think a survivor would opt into an option that does nothing for them other than make the game harder?

@Gamer2790 said:
So what are u saying? That stealth is the only way players can survive in a game? Players can survive without even having to be stealthy.

I welcome for you to actually point out where I said that stealth is the only way players can survive. Stealth is just part of the gameplay, a very good part. Allowing people to use killer in 3rd person mode would greatly ruin that gameplay.

There are other games (such as Friday The 13th) where the killer has  third person view and are still survivable. 

There are several differences between this game and Friday the 13th including (but not limited to):

• Several more methods for the survivors to escape/win
• The ability for survivors to outright KILL the killer, which is one of the victory methods.
• Much larger maps with far fewer ways to take advantage of 3rd person perspective.
• Killer movement that's slower than the survivor movement except when doing that teleport whoosh thing.

They are different games. Claiming that X game has done it like you suggested doesn't help your argument, especially since you're pointing at a game that's doing much worse than DbD. Why should Dbd be emulating them again?

Idk why pig doesn't get third person when she crouches.

Her crouching nerfs her quite a bit, then it's in 1st person...lol.

It would make sense for that killer in particular. Also for spirit in husk form...but that is a different debate.

@AlwaysInAGoodShape said:
I think the First Person for Killers and Third Person for survivors is one of the Best design decisions in the game.

No need to change anything here.

+1. This was a really good design choice and it would be a very poor mistake to mess with it.

@Incarnate said:
I disagree, because it's what allows for certain things to happen which in my opinion is some of the reason why killers aren't that feared, because you can easily see where the killer is and you can easily adjust your movement and strategy in relation to the killer, why? Because you can see the killer WITHOUT having to expose any parts of your characters body. This makes playing stealthy so, so much more easy.

It's also the only reason why this game even exists was because of this choice, imagine how many people would play this game if as a survivor you are.

1. Staring into a generator for half the game
2. Can't counter any attacks by dodging because you can only look infront of you
3. Every match being T1 myers because you stand no chance at ever being able to defend yourself
4. Not being able to juke or mind game.
5. I don't care what anyone says, only bad killers complain about "looping" it's necessary for this game, imagine a world where a killer comes and hits you, and then just hits you again because you can't prechose pathing

I happen to think it's bad design choice, I think both sides should be first person perspective, and most certainly not 3rd person perspective.

Again, game would be dead if half the time you're staring at generators as a survivor. One huge complaint I see with killers is "survivors not juking enough". Guess what wont happen with First Person? Any juking at all, infact I can imagine games would be over even faster because the killer has a huge advantage in first person over what a survivor would in first person.

For instance this is what makes it so easy to loop killers, because you can easily see where the killer is in relation to yourself, like for instance if you're trying to loop the killer around obstacles, you can easily see where the killer is going without having to actually turn your character to see. It also makes the the game much less immersive than if it had been first person perspective.

Again, looping is necessary, survivors running in straight lines isn't fun, if you can't easily see the killer there are no mind game, or juking, the games would be unfun and you'd spend most of your time staring into a generator SO. MUCH. FUN.

"immersion" as in first person would be awful for the survivor.

@Incarnate said:

@Dreamnomad said:

@AlwaysInAGoodShape said:
I think the First Person for Killers and Third Person for survivors is one of the Best design decisions in the game.

No need to change anything here.

+1. This was a really good design choice and it would be a very poor mistake to mess with it.

I disagree, because it's what allows for certain things to happen which in my opinion is some of the reason why killers aren't that feared, because you can easily see where the killer is and you can easily adjust your movement and strategy in relation to the killer, why? Because you can see the killer WITHOUT having to expose any parts of your characters body. This makes playing stealthy so, so much more easy.

I happen to think it's bad design choice, I think both sides should be first person perspective, and most certainly not 3rd person perspective.

For instance this is what makes it so easy to loop killers, because you can easily see where the killer is in relation to yourself, like for instance if you're trying to loop the killer around obstacles, you can easily see where the killer is going without having to actually turn your character to see. It also makes the the game much less immersive than if it had been first person perspective.

Survivor would be absolutely unplayable as first person. I truly wish it were possible to set up an environment where a version of the game has survivors in first person and you were a test subject. I would gladly make a wager that if you could escape even 10% of the time then you would get some kind of prize. Any kind of stealth killer would rip people off generators like it was some kind of joke. Fast vaulting windows that weren't directly in front of you would be difficult. Looping would be impossible. Sneaking around would be comically bad. It would turn all rank 1 survivors into rank 20 survivors in terms of difficulty to play against.

Fortunately, it doesn't really matter what you think if you disagree since there is a 0% chance they would do something this dumb. Maybe they might make this an option for survivors or add it as some sort of alternate game mode. But they will never force this on all survivors as a standard part of the game. The game would be dead in a week if they did. That's no exaggeration either.