Maps should consist of only a really small number of safe Pallets/Tiles and mostly consist of unsafe Pallets. A good Survivor can actually utilize those, a bad Survivor will not get much use out of the unsafe Pallets.

And, furthermore, a bad Survivor will not waste that many valuable ressources. If you have a Map with 8 safe Pallets and said bad Survivor uses 5 of them, they got a chase of 1 minute and killed their team in the process. If you have 20 unsafe Pallets and the Survivor manages to use 5 of them (if they even manage to last this long), there are still plenty of pallets left to be used.

THIS would make a difference between good Survivors and bad Survivors. Obviously, Bloodlust needs to be gone with that changes, otherwise Killers would just get free hits all the time because they just need to hold W instead of trying to mindgame unsafe Tiles.

I cannot really think of other ideas which would help to keep Survivor-Skill but only punish bad Survivors and not good Survivors OR which might make good Survivors weaker, without having bad Survivors suffer.

I would change your perspective. Why would they nerf a mechanic because players are good at utilizing it? I mean this question is like saying... "Hey we have football players who are really good at utilizing this play book. But some others aren't so much. Maybe we should just throw out the play book or dumb it down?" Umm here's what I'd say... "Bad players just get better at the game." Practice practice practice. Not, easier easier easier. So what's the difference between a good and bad survivor? Someone who puts in the time and effort. What's the difference between someone with a PHD and a High School Diploma? Time and effort put into it.

So what I would do is watch the top streamers and see what they do and shoot for that. Do you think football players are wondering how things can get easier to be on Tom Brady's level? Or are they trying to work as hard as Tom Brady?

bad survivors urban evade around the map, good survivors activate meddle of man

i could name a few.

a bad survivor would; get hit and still dropping the pallet, try to blind me as if i'm really gonna stare at the beam, run in front of me to try and bait a hit, try to throw down my perfectly placed body block as i pick up the survivor, think i'm not running bloodwarden (stupid feng).

good survivors would leave there friends to die and not try and be all altruistic when they could otherwise win the game and escape. and also probably save there friend. altruism loses games, it's true and we all know it. other than that don't do anything listed above and your good.

anyway to change this? no not really.

Good survivors know how to sit on gens on complete them. Bad survivors just wander around and hide as soon as they hear the heartbeat, and most importantly they don't know how to sit on gens and complete them.

The main difference between good and bad survivors is decision-making. Mechanical skill is increasingly unimportant due to trends in killer power design.

To go back to your opening question, I don't see a way to nerf decision-making.

If you want to nerf looping, it's redundant when you can play a killer that's oppressive in the 1v1 and there are plenty. The others are for more casual play as very different powers cannot be made equally strong. Which is where the whole argument 'all killers should be viable' falls apart, on a side note.

Unless you factor in the killer into map generation to try to achieve a sort of balance across the board. But imagine if bhvr or anyone else could ever get it right.

I remember when OhTofu suggested that, but I don't think it's ever going to work without fundamentally reworking too many things.

Hit detection is already trash and unsafe pallets are guaranteed hits against laggers.

Powers work in different ways and there are some that simply require to pre-drop safe pallets, while unsafe pallets are useless.

Bloodlust, as you mentioned.

Enduring, even without SF.

I think you did not really understand what I wrote. Let alone that I always say that DBD is an easy game.

Yeah, most likely it would be too much Changes so it is very unlikely that it will happen. And I agree, Bloodlust would only be one factor which would need to be removed, Enduring is a good example, because the Stun is probably too short to allow the Survivor to gain distance to the next unsafe Pallet, making the Tile unfair again.

Why do good survivors need to be nerfed? If I have thousands of hours in the game and have learned maps and have game sense, why should I be punished?

Okay that makes sense. I guess if that's the case the game should be as balanced as possible at the top skill player base. If we watched 100 matches with the 4 best survivors in the world and the best killer in the world would it be 50/50? 40/60? 30/70? Who wins more? That's what I would want to know. That is what matters. Because at that point all the lesser skilled players regardless of how good or bad they are will eventually run into the odds against them at the top of their skill level. Of course this is a survivor sided game and most people like that. It's how it should be. Why? Because 4/5 people are favored. A game like Evolve died because it was too monster sided. 1 player every match was having fun while the other 4 struggled the whole time. In DBD's case having 4 people being in favor is far more logical and makes sense. I wouldn't play this game if it was Killer Sided.

Yes if it was perfectly balance we would all love that.

Good Survivor doesn't complain and act like their life revolves around a game at the end of a match.

The two main things that will separate good from bad survivors is good survivors know that doing gens is always 100% the priority. Not doing totems, not opening that chest or urban evading around the edge of the map every time they hear a heartbeat. The second thing is they will be good about chaining loops and tiles together to get the most value out of the limited resources on the map.