What do we think about current Freddy?

He’s more balanced than he was but he’s still super uninteresting.

Split on gens. Freddy can't constantly teleport to gens and he'll eventually need to commit to a chase if he wants to down someone.

That build only gets power when survivors are constantly trying to do the same gen giving Freddy an easy target to pressure.

He feels almost the same to play as, except slightly less enjoyable to play as. He seems the same as he's ever been when it comes to playing against him though. I don't like him because his power is cookie cutter design cut from other killers. However, Dream Projection is a very creative mechanic and I agree with you on that. If Freddy ever gets another rework to be more reminiscent to old Freddy, I want Dream Projection to stay.

Another rework with @GeneralV Freddy rework for the PTB then any further changes as need be. I always though of Dream Pallets base.

he is "meh"

what does that mean?

not strong, not weak. could have a better power, very lack luster. dream pallets are rarely worth using being honest and snares aren't top tier if you ask me. teleport works, can get plays or pops, good for defense/slowdown, but you'll probably not use it too much in a serious scenario.

in fact i just played a game of Freddy, but i didn't get far. David got 2nd hooked on 1st hook, all surv kinda went toward him, he got off hook, but then unhooked the Feng, got himself killed because of it. got dragons on Feng, some more stuff happened. Feng died. 2 now, got Claudette downed, wasnt gonna risk Jake hatch, find em, he went back to Claudette, picked up, chased down, got jake, got claudette, gg 4 man. they got maybe 2-3 gens idk.

mainly just basic attacks, snares really don't do much and are so tedious to place down even setting them up beforehand is a drag. so yeah, basic attack killer and hold no real power, but to slightly inconvenience the surv and on that off chance actually slow them, not that bad though if your good a timing and placement.

doesn't really stand out as a killer, add ons aren't all that really weird actually (like why?). black box is cool though.

i run noed, remember me, blood warden and dragon's grip. don't have a lot of perk right now, haven't leveled up to much. only like lvl 45-50.

Personally, my biggest issue is how absolutely gutted he feels. He's literally just an M1 killer with a smaller terror radius and teleportation, that's it. Sure, pallets can be fun and snares can be useful, but there's just something missing. We have other killers that are seemingly very basic, yet none of them, at least to me, feel so uninspired.

Another thing is, that he is a great offender when it comes to the whole SoloQ versus SWF balance. Against solo players, he's incredible, since they can't see you at a distance and you get to take full advantage of your kit. Against a SWF, you're absolutely worthless, since you've no lethality and whenever you're in chase with someone, everyone else can happily do gens, taking away from the whole "can't see him until he's close" further.

His TR is the same size as any other killer. His only advantage when survivors are awake is he has invisibility so unless he's close survivors might not see him approach.

He ended up in the same situation as Billy in a way. Very overrated killer outside of one strong add-on combo and now he's just stuck in a boring power while other killers got better and are more fun to play than him so everybody moved on and he's been abandoned.

Yeah but they kinda got the same treatment. Both of them just needed smaller changes and instead BHVR went on spending time and resources on unnecessary reworks that a lot of people didn't like.

Just boring. It's just a M1 killer with an objective teleport. Think Nurse, but not as fun or engaging.

The pallets are really the only fun thing I like about him

I mean, yeah. But, that's it. Old Freddy had no indicator that you were going against him until you fell asleep.

One time I sat still with insidious on top of the hatch, they didn't see me because they were awake and when they were about to escape, I closed it in front of them.

Their prospective was the hatch closing itself and music just started blaring right in their ears as they started to fall asleep.

Even after his nerf, I believe he still is an A Tier killer, he is just in the bottom of said Tier now.

However, that is definitely not the issue. The problem, as most people here have pointed out, is that he is just a boring and uninteresting killer who lost almost everything that made him fun and unique, with the sole exception being Dream Projection because that is a nice addition.

Freddy desperately needs a change, specifically his on-release power (which is not exactly the same "Old Freddy" that most people know) back with a few improvements. Keeping this new and boring version of him is not only unhealthy for the game, but also extremely unfair to Old Freddy mains out there.

I like how threads like this one create awareness for his problems, and I sincerely hope the devs will eventually listen.

Thank you for creating this thread. And perhaps one day, we will get our killer back.

Thank you so much, my dear friend. This is heartwarming to read <3

Precisely. Truth be told, I think Old Freddy wasn't even a low tier killer to begin with, if played right. But, despite his weaknesses, he was extremely fun. And that is what matters the most.

I think he only needed 2 buffs: patch 1.8.1 reverted and the modern-day Incapacitated status effect or something similar to it during the Transition. Dream Projection is a fun and interesting mechanic but he could have lived without it if necessary.

That was all he needed. Never a full rework.

I don't play Freddy that often but I've had mostly good matches as him. To me, though, he needs more classic Freddy cosmetics.

WE SHOULD TAKE FREDDY KRUEGER AND PUSH HIM SOMEWHERE ELSE!!

Freddy Krueger should work like The Doctor, tiers for sleep. 3rd tier is put to sleep and unable to do gens and need to find time glasses to wake up which wont be easy to find.

played a game of him for the first time in probably months the other day and it just felt so stale and boring

Falling alseep needs to be bad, like really bad. You can't fall asleep against Freddy, that's the whole concept of the Killer.

Falling asleep should cause Exposed, affected by snares (Blood pools) and, Freddy gets highlighted gen info when a asleep survivor is working on a gen.

Waking up should be top priority for survivors.

Hitting an awake Survivor with Freddy shouldn't injure them but instead, put them to sleep with a speed boost as if hit. They are now Exposed and will go down in one hit. (talk about a good Dead Hard counter!)

That quote is from the Remake's alternate ending, and definitely one of my favorites!

And nope, it would not replace the Incapacitated effect. A Survivor has to run when the Transition begins, since he cannot commit to the generator.

But when he tries to run... Surprise!

I believe it would be a powerful add-on, considering its effects. But then again, we're talking about an Ultra Rare here.

Definitely more balanced since you manually have to put them to sleep and wait 5 - 7 seconds before you could hit them

Plus a survivor could sprint burst away haha