The more i go against Nurse

Like I said, the best way to learn her counters is to play her, see what it feels and looks like from her perspective, then think about how you'd counter her. If you run into survivors like me, who know her weaknesses, that's going to help a lot too.

Advice from a former Nurse main: Plaid Flannel is a great learning add-on to understand and "absorb" the way her blink travels. The rest is just knowing how survivors think and play. Nurse is probably the only killer for whom you need to play both sides to truly master.

There is a lot you can do to extend chases against even a great Nurse. I think 99% of players struggle with it because she breaks the conventional looping/pathing dynamic.

Like others have said, a basic double back is a free hit for even an average Nurse. Doubling back on the second blink has a much higher chance of success.

There's no reason to hug walls like you would against an M1 killer. When you go around a corner and break LOS against a Nurse, you have 3 options. 99.9% of survivors think there are only 2 options. You can double back, hold W, or move away from the tile like a zig zag.

Utilize the edges of the map. You create distance and force the Nurse to make longer range second blinks. It is so much easier to juke a second blink. The chain blink window is very limited. It's a very low percentage shot at range in an open field to hit a dancing survivor on a long second blink. At some point the Nurse has to send the blink or eat the fatigue.

That's literally how all killers play, prioritizing the weak link. Why would they go for the best player first?

According to latest stats, at red ranks Nurse killrate 57%, is that mean she needs buff?

Strange

Play as a nurse and you will learn how to counter it.

We´ll need more nurses once the skill based mmr goes live. Otherwise SWF teams could have some issues.

What if they want to win, though?

Guess I am still a glutton for punishment, because as survivor; Nurse, Billy, Bubba, Ghostface, Pig and a couple others are my absolutely favorite killers to go against. I'm okay at looping. However with the Nurse you gotta think outside of the normal box. In addition, shes limited to 2, 3 max blinks and understanding her fatigue can make a huge difference.

Of course, the Nurse players who have mastered the Queen will be tougher to outwit. Shes a hard killer to learn and master, so she has an unbelievable power. As many content creators have said, when you go against a Nurse or play her-- you're not playing DBD. Youre playing the Nurse Game. She isn't hindered by pallets and windows like other killers.

I guess thats one of the things I enjoy about her. I can outplay a good or lower nurse player, but Masters are near uncounterable, which makes when you mindgame or do something unpredictable and win, that much better. Just my take on her. Everyone has their opinion, some like her and some hate her. I know my least favorite killers are trapper, Freddy, Nemesis, Spirit, and Clown.

Red rank shouldnt be called casuals, maybe 10% of players reach that.

Or we are talking about Oracle level teams, where 4 survivors playing 30+k hours, and playing perfectly , and yet killers demanding to have 50% chance against that team too? And anything below that casual level?

Because I dont agree with that

Well I dont mind then I will be killer main, 99,99% of playerbase will have no chance against killer if buffed to that level.

Also according to u there is no problem losing because ur teammates in solo, but as killer you shouldnt lose against nobody if you dont make mistake.

This is a party game, therefore a role shouldnt give you autowin, and nowadays thats killer against average survivors.

57% killrate is trash?

Why should I play a game where I have no chance to escape?

You cant judge success as a killer based on how many killed, because its an asymmetric game and the side where you are rely on others have to edge over the solo player. Thats to say, if 4 good player on team, the killer should have heavy disadvantage.

You just want very very easy wins, and win by default, against solo players, because ingame against oracle team you wont even play. You need 100+ 3-4k everygame.

Survivor just should be happy that you are farming them, and they should be honored to be killed by u all the time

she already got nerfed once a cool down added too her power so she cant just blink again resulting in having to walk and wait without addons. or theirs other changes idk about which i doubt. she has to wait for it to recharge the problem is with this game bhvr started to strip killers of their viability. hillbilly for example his chainsaw having overheat or a cooldown. hes still strong probably if you want to look at anyone look at bhvr for making most killers weak. and against competent swf even weaker so people use the few killers that are left to crush any team or close enough. spirits good last time i used her idk about now not kept track. you would see a variety of more killers if they was viable most are weak and just crap and killer can be frustrating and it is at times

People like the use the argument that Nurse is balanced because she has a high skill ceiling but i disagree. Just because a killer takes time to learn doesn't make them balanced. Also you don't really tend to face a lot of rank 1 nurses often so people just accept that quick match and move on. But its ridiculous that there is a killer that just ignores pallets and windows your only hope is that she messes up and you can buy your team time to do gens. I personally don't have the answer in how to change nurse but if rank 1 nurses were more common people would actually realise how broken and dumb that killer is but yano "skill level" apparently.

I understand her power as ive stated above.

Shes a 110 speed killer who requires blinking the close space on a survivor. Because she blinks she can blink through walls and through pallets. Her power requires a small charge where she holds to determine the distance of her blink. THERE YOU GO.

Nurse has never been balanced and if we're being brutally honesty she needs a complete redesign. A rework would be pointless because her power ultimately doesn't fit into Dead By Daylight, she plays the nurse game instead (teleporting is difficult enough to balance in most games, let alone an asymmetrical one). People also greatly overestimate how difficult she is play as well. The initial learning curve is hard, but once you have the muscle memory mapped, landing her blinks becomes much easier. When you've scrimmed comp players or gone against public nurses who are extremely proficient you realise just how oppressive her power is. Against that calibre of player, it's nigh unbeatable for a solo team and difficult even for coordinated swf's (unless you're running busted items / addons every game).

Even if you juke a few times, not every map and every generator is going to have fortunate tile spawns nearby to try and weaponize against her. In addition, a good nurse is going to know how to zone properly and your options become extremely limited other than hoping to god your team is smashing out generators (something which both asides agree is hardly fun or engaging counterplay). What isn't discussed very well is that her ability to hold a 3 gen on most maps is considerably stronger than even killers like spirit. Yes, she has fatigue, but being able to freely traverse and force defensible positions where they normally wouldn't exist is incredibly powerful.

Fundamentally, she's a product of poor design and her skill ceiling causes issues when balancing other aspects of the game like perks. You're always going to be saying "well this is cool, but what happens when the nurse utilises it" like with starstruck - a great perk on a lot of killers that becomes considerably more oppressive on her. There is a spectacular irony in people asking the developers to balance for competitive top tier 4 man teams and in the same breath saying "well nurse is fine because she's hard". No, if Dwight had a secret ability where pressing 15 keystrokes in 5 seconds stunned the killer for 20 seconds we'd all agree it would be busted. Pulling out the argument only a few people can do it doesn't alter the fact that the power itself is a problem.

If the nurse was to be concepted as a killer in todays DBD, there is not a chance in hell she would make it to live. The only reason she's unlikely to have her bugs fixed is because it's one of the few things stopping her becoming more widely used and therefore a more prominent issue. I barely play her now because there's almost no challenge if I decide to sweat my balls off (that and it started to make me worse with other killers)