why do survivor mains complain so much about tunnleing
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And now youre making up stuff.
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nah fam ######### people who click
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You were the one who responded to a post I made that wasn't directed at you to keep the conversation going.
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you never consider taking chases for the hooked person
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Listen bud, theres a difference in playing the game, and then just trying to ruin the experience for everyone.
Lets look at Among Us for example, that game is usually fun, but what if the Crewmates decided to run in pairs 24/7, specially against a sole Impostor, that Impostor has no chance at winning, at all, and will lose without being able to do anything.
Every game can be ruined by this kind of stuff, DBD is no exception
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yeh but i dont ######### about it in after game chat
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In what world is tunneling a strategy to stop gen rush ? If you put someone on a hook and 1 person goes for the save, you still have 2 on gens and once they realize you just tunneled a guy everyone switches from fun mode to do gens and go next.
I agree tunneling can be good to apply pressure but certainly not at the start of the game and most certainly not to prevent game speed. Sounds like you need to work on your early game chases and how long you're commiting to them if gens are popping so fast early.
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And both games are too sides competing against each other in a pvp setting. If people are playing to win, it makes sense to use the tactics that will you to the winning outcome.
Complaining that one side is trying to win at a game is a weird complaint, because it just means you are upset that you can't win at the game. Which is a skill issue.
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You dont know how tunneling works?
Trying to take agroo is largely pointless, cause again, the killer will ignore everyone else to focus hard on that person.
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sometimes sacrifices need to be made for the team to win so stop being so selfish
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If you know how Among Us works, you would realize how my example practically ends the game for the Impostor with absolutely no chance of winning, thats not a skill issue, thats basically a design flaw, but people dont play like that cause its not fun.
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I wonder /s
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Yes, we agree on that. People who get upset over strategies such as tunneling should really refrain from playing survivor or even DBD in general. Not because it's unfair or scummy, but because it can be frustrating and some don't know how to deal with it. You see, I'm explaining why there are people who complain about tunneling, which is the question OP made. I don't really agree with the sentiment that killers should follow the survivor rulebook or whatever, I'm just trying to explain people's logic behind getting mad and why I think these reactions are justified.
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hello
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I know how Among Us works, because I play Among Us with a group on a discord.
Getting upset that people are trying to figure out who the impostor is and not giving the impostor an opportunity for free kills is just wanting free wins for doing nothing.
Impostors can call sabotages to help split up crewmates or give them an opportunity to sneak a kill when crewmates can't see.
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thank you
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What are you even on about?, that doesnt apply here at all, the survivor is denied the chance to do anything, unwillingly.
Its not selfish to want to play the freaking game.
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All this nonsense about survivors just wanting an escape handed to them is ridiculous.
I'm a Rank 5 Killer main, and rank 7 as Survivor. I play Survivor casually with my friends to have fun. I'm largely unconcerned with winning, and more concerned with having fun. For me, having fun means being able to do my objective to a degree and testing my skill against the killer.
Tunneling may very well be a strategy, but it's a strategy that involves zero skill on the killer's part. It's not fun for the survivor being tunneled, and the other three survivors are free to focus on gens without worry.
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A killer still needs to be able to beat you in a chase to even remove you from the game to begin with. While it may not feel fair to die because you lost 1 chase, that is simply something that can happen whether it's because the killer is forcing you out of the game by camping or your survivor teammate just don't help you.
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look lad i would explain but were to far down the rabbit hole i suggest u get out
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And what if the pairs are basically on top of each other? making impossible for the Imposter to kill without being spotted?, you might get away with it once at best by making the crew vote out the innocent one, but getting accused on a 50/50 situation is already bad for you, getting accused a second time is basically game over, unless the crewmates are braindead.
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Unless you are playing with high crewmate vision, it's not hard to sneak kills on stacked crew when lights are out.
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Remember i said pairs?, that wont work, cause you killed 1 of 2, the survivor will have clear view of who the killer is, that only really works if its more than 3 players.
And like i said a 50/50 situation is bad for you as Impostor cause now youre a suspect for the rest of the game, and likely ending in another 50/50 will just end with you getting voted without question.
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What? Slugging and tunneling are two completely different things. Tunneling is focusing on one survivor and excluding anyone else, even easier targets. Slugging is leaving a survivor on the ground.
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I've sniped kills with lights out before in Among Us without being caught. It just sounds like a "you" issue.
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Survivors stay at 100% Speed. Killers gain more speed as Bloodlust increases, so losing a chase is inevitable and nothing will stop a killer who wants to tunnel you out of the game. BT, DS, Pallet Stuns, Teammates trying to take aggro will all largely be ignored if the killer really wants you out of the game.
Being tunneled out of the game is boring. It's unsatisfying and you feel like the killer didn't earn it. I'm not saying "nerf killers", I'm saying play better. Tunneling is inefficient and if the survivor is decent enough to run you for at least 2 gens, you've wasted too much time for it to be considered "efficient".
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If anything it just sounds like the Crewmates are oblivious.
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i know right its a crazy idea only discouvord by 95 percent survivors after the games dead
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Same reason you complain about gen rushing, because it makes the game unenjoyable for the other side. Can you play however you like, of course but the other side doesn't have to like it.
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If you're trying to prove a point, you've failed miserably, becuase none of what you are saying makes sense.
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"stop being so selfish"
Said the guy deny other people's ability to play the game.
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Getting put on the hook is part of survivor gameplay. Staying there is not.
It's fine for a killer to occasionally slap you on the hook, but if they do everything in their power to ascertain that that is the only thing you get to do, it kills the gameplay.
Being on the hook and being slugged aren't part of gameplay. That's like saying the loading screen between death and respawn in a souls-like is 'gameplay'.
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No one haven't say that they want "free escapes", what are you even talking about?
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Because survivors don't like to get treated the same way they treat killers.
They complain that they can't enjoy or play the game, because they get tunneled. But simultaneously they rush gens and leave the match asap when given the chance.
I've seen survivors be mad at the killer for dying with 20k points and gloat about a ez match when they escape with 13k points.
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Some do, some don't. It's a strategy some survivors are too dumb to understand. Some with killers who don't "gen rush".
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Don't try arguing with that guy, dude, he doesn't get it. Killer main at its core.
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I play both sides frequently and have all the achievements.
I'm not a killer main by any stretch, which is why I don't have issues with people playing the game how they want and don't try to shame people into playing in a way that gives me easier wins.
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actually clicking and teabagging do do something
they help the killer, because the survivor is trying to be a annoyance instead of running away
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Page 2, 6th post from the top.
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Eh, if I get gen rushed, at least I can have a hook unless all 4 are playing stealthy on a survivor favored map. If I get tunneled early, I get one chase, I guess. I just had a sub 3 minute game where once gens were popping that fast, I dropped a Shack chase to go and hook someone else. Grabbed my crown, broke a few walls, and opened the gate myself. I still got over 10k points and left feeling slightly perturbed.
I got tunneled out of a game and got like 3k points or something and had to wait for it to end because my sister was still playing. I would be lying if I said I wasn't seething.
I feel there is a bit of a difference. I can still play as killer, and I still get points. As survivor, I only get to play for one chase, and I guess the pitiful second chase assuming the person unhooking me had borrowed.
I am a killer main, I get why people tunnel. But man, I have to agree with survivors on this one, you can't break rank 15 as a tunneler? You are really bad. They literally can only have fun by ruining my fun because surely they are embarrassed that they are ranked lower than my sister who constantly allows 3 people to escape because she is nice. She is basically hard throwing her games and is still a better killer player. Imagine that.
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Just play nurse or spirit and learn them,i didn't need to tunnel once since I learned to play them(and the "genrush" problem doesn't occur either). I barely do it with other killers,I'm more for the hooks over kills mentality but sometimes it just is the best option unfortunately.
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It doesn't mean if it's a good tactic for you, it's also a bad experience for them. SWFs especially, because the one who gets tunneled out early have to wait for everyone else to finish the game.
Why do you think so many people complain about a feature that makes their games miserable?
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Why you ask that question? The answer is obvious.
Imagine you would be tunneled every game. You gain very little ammount of bloodpoints, you queue longer then you actually play and it is generally not fun to get tunneled off the hook since there is usually little gameplay involved.
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On the other hand, most survivors would say the fun is in being chased. Unless the killer chases them for too long and they lose, then it's no longer fun. It just sounds like they want to have their cake and eat it too.
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I'm probably closer to a "killer main". Tunneling is a boring playstyle that is pretty exclusively used by saltlords or players that have just resigned to losing every game
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Read it wrong. Sorry
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Yea but beeing chased and beeing chased could be 2 different things. How most define and also i understand tunneling (at least the one people complain about) is getting tunneled off the hook, which normally give the survivor no defense unless the unhooker has BT.
Just regular tunnel (while not proxycamping at the hook) is for me when playing survivor the best thing in the game, but that almost never happens. When i get tunneled, i get tunneled off the hook with no defense for me pretty much.
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i say the exact same thing for a urban evasion prove thyself ds iron will red rank swf
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TBagging doesnt stop you from playing the game, neither does clicking a flashlight.
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but it is very ######### annoying and childish
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