Is The Nurse fair and balanced?
What do you guys think?
A lot of people hate the Spirit, but what do you think about the Nurse.
I hate the Nurse, in my opinion she is the most unbalanced killer in DBD.
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Going for a no-vote because although it's true that she's genuinely unbalanced, a good Nurse is quite an uncommon sight, and Nurse seems to be necessary when it comes to high level play.
I guess what I'm trying to say, is that we need Nurse in this game, I guess.
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No, Nurse needs a nerf.
i think nurse needs a nerf, but i dont know how they would do it without making her horrible to play
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No, Nurse is the most unfair and unbalanced killer in the game. (NERF)
At least Spirit gets obstructed by early pallet drops. Nurse doesn’t have to follow any of those rules.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
I think she's fine. SHe is the hardest Killer to learn and also the strongest. Makes sense to me. Maybe change her Addons a bit but the rest is ok.
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No, Nurse is the most unfair and unbalanced killer in the game. (NERF)
Yeah take everything you think you know about dead by daylight and throw it out the window it's all useless you can't do anything
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I don’t necessarily think she’s fair, but I think her difficulty curve sort of makes up for that. I don’t think she needs a Nerf, but I’m not sure how to vote.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
Yes she may be the strongest killer in the game but her skill level is so high some of the best players in this game can't play her well because of her high skill threshold. I can't even get one blink hit at all even with baby survivors (true story there)
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No, Nurse needs a buff.
The almighty STATS say pig is doing fine and needs no buffs. On the same stats nurse is at the bottom of the lost thus she needs buffs
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No, Nurse is the most unfair and unbalanced killer in the game. (NERF)
Nurse is about as ballanced as 4 man SWF sweat squad, very old DS, Keys or the old Ebony Mori.
True, she might be hard to learn, but that does not justify her insame potential at all. I am not a nurse main and just above average skilled with her, but i have not lost single game since years, which should tell something.
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No, Nurse needs a nerf.
This minus the nerf. I Don't think she deserves a nerf, its simply unfair to the people who have mastered her and rightfully deserve the ez kills they get. Nurse is actually quite balanced in her low tier/mid tier brackets. Most players in that skill area can generally still be a threatening killer you have a chance to outplay without ever feeling unfair to fight. A good nurse though? Like a REALLY good nurse? The average/above average Survivor has absoloutely no hope of winning against that and the match becomes more about watching in awe as your team gets demolished by this very rare sight. A skilled nurse breaks every possible option in two, you can't even use nurse specific outplays because they've mastered the killer to a degree where they'll read you like a neon texted book.
TL:DR Top tier nurses are a hopeless depressing fight, but are so rare that i do not think nurse should ever be nerfed further. She is OP in capable hands, though.
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No, Nurse is the most unfair and unbalanced killer in the game. (NERF)
I Don't think she deserves a nerf, its simply unfair to the people who have mastered her and rightfully deserve the ez kills they get.
Why? Why do they 'deserve' kills? Don't forget that there are 5 people in a match of DBD. It would be grossly unfair to assert that it's ok for a particular Killer to stomp the vast majority of the playerbase just because they practised with said Killer. When I look at a Killer, I look at their potential. Is Nurse's potential too high? Absolutely! Should something be done about that? In my opinion, yes. You cannot feasibly balance on-demand teleportation in a game like DBD. You just can't. However, nerfing her and calling it a day would likely just end up gutting her. Personally, I think a rework would be more productive. I know that reworking her will upset Nurse mains and people who are big into comp but I think that it would be for the best. Besides, in my opinion at least, comp is kind of a joke in this game. There's simply way too many variables for there to ever be an environment that is balanced enough to hold a truly fair DBD tournament. So, leaving broken killers like the Nurse in their current state just to appease the comp scene honestly seems a bit ridiculous to me.
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No, but she was never supposed to be.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
Just like some of the comments above, I agree she's very powerful when she's mastered, but nonetheless she's ok.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
I dont think she deserves a nerf she is fine
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No, Nurse needs a buff.
Nurse needs to get bugfixed. However, if played at peak potential, there's not much survivors can realistically do to stall her chases for long.
The bugfixes are why I said she needs buffed, even though it's just making her work as intended.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
It always bugged me when people are saying "really good Nurse are unstoppable, she needs a nerf", like, really good Oni will stomp on you, a main Blight even more than the Oni, etc... There are players that are "maining" a killer, that are smart, and that have mastered every string you have to know while playing the killer.
It is the same for Nurse, but the people who finally mastered her have a sh*tload of hours with her, so yes, they know how survivors are reacting to her (blame yourself if you're super predictable or running in the open), they know exactly how to charge to blink wherever they want. I'm sorry, but Nurse is my favourite killer to go against by a very very long shot. But to counter her, you have to exactly know how Nurse is working (basically, you have to exactly know where the Nurse wants to blink).
She's fine, after putting 700 hours in her, and playing wisely, I have 4K/12 hooks non stop. But I never loose against a Nurse. The required skill to win against a Nurse is to have mastered the Nurse.
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No, Nurse needs a nerf.
If you think Nurse is balanced you're just wrong. Period.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
Addon rework at most. Most problematic thing I can think about her are Kavanagh and Fragile Wheeze. Besides that people should really just get good.
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No, Nurse needs a nerf.
Not really a Nerf, a complete Rework.
Her ability is outdated and should not exist in this form anymore. She is from a time where real Infinites were a thing.
There are two reasons why there are no mass-complaints about her:
- A good Nurse is rare
- A good Nurse took time to learn her
But thats about it. The thing is, nobody needs to learn Nurse these days. Every Killer is viable in Red Ranks and there are a bunch of Killers which help to 4K most of your matches. Back when Nurse was created, only she was able to do that, now you have a huge variety, so nobody needs to bother learning Nurse. You can win almost as many games with Spirit, while only using a fraction of time to learn her.
I guess if more people would invest their time in learning Nurse, we would see more complaints.
So yeah, I guess she needs a serious rework. It should not be basically impossible to lose once you learned her enough. It also should not be impossible to win when you did not put that much time into her.
Like, she needs to be tuned down, but also be more accessible for newer players (like, it should not be as punishing to swing after missing a Blink, as an example).
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
You said exactly the reason why some people are complaining about good Nurses : they are rare, they don't know how to play against. Or you're a veteran, or you played or play her and you know exactly how to play around her weaknesses.
She has a lot of counterplays when the LoS is broken, a lot of mindgame where a constant attention to the killer can save your life. Nurse is my main, and Nurse is my favourite killer to go against. She's perfectly fine. A "good Nurse" means nothing, if the killer is good (the killer, I mean the player), in fact he will win, that's all.
And please no... Do NOT make her easier to play.... Stop with beginner friendly gameplay, she's "hard", she has to be so. If you're a beginner, you shouldn't play her, and even if you're not a beginner, the game has to propose hard gameplay to the people who wants hard gameplay.
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No, Nurse needs a nerf.
She's not balanced but she doesn't need a nerf WITH CURRENT GAME STATUS and i wanna focus on the CURRENT GAME STATUS.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
Nurse is in a good spot currently, balance wise.
She is by far the strongest killer in the game and ignores base game mechanics which makes her nuts, but this comes with a huge learning curve, a learning curve only few people can get past and get really good with her.
You don't see too many good Nurses ever, hell it's rare to get a Nurse as your killer in a game period, and due to this I don't think she needs a nerf. She's not played nearly enough and not enough people play her at a high level, which leaves room for counter play, this counter play being
- breaking line of sight
- occasionally doubling back
- getting a good dead hard off Now a good Nurse has really no counter in this game, other than doing the things I said above but y'know, faster, better, ect ect, I think that's okay, good Nurses tend to only play good survivor squads which, is fine, a high level survivor group against a good Nurse is fair, considering how much more survivor sided the game is at high level play. A killer like Nurse with someone who plays them good, is going to be one of the only killers that can even keep up. I think the main reason why people would want to nerf Nurse is because a good Nurse is oppressive as #########, but I don't think just because a killer is oppressive, means they need a nerf, there are some really oppressive Trappers out there, he doesn't need a nerf. Her power isn't unfair or anything, it's just difficult to go against someone who knows how to use it, which is fine, Nurse is in a great spot, a few addon adjustments and I'd say she's in a perfect place.
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No, Nurse needs a buff.
I voted for buff, but I also want to add a nerf with the buff.
Remove the fatigue for doing just 1 blink, but increase the ability CD if you don't chain at least once. This way, the skill threshold isnt so high that people turn off Nurse as a viable killer because of constant fatigues, but keeps her deadly level down a bit.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
Nurse is balanced by the bugs the devs don't fix.
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A mechanic who ignores survivor defenses should never exist.
I play since 2016 and she was always OP and will always be.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
Can still be stunned, blinded and even lightburned. What is she ignoring exactly?
Could we please stop trying to nerf the killer's top tiers all the time? It starts being unbearable.
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The Nurse is not overpowered, and does not need a nerf, but that doesn't mean she's fine where she is either. A match of Dead By Daylight that features the Nurse as the Killer is not a balance problem- she's insanely hard and anyone who can stomp with her has basically earned it by being that much better at the game than their opponents. She is not a problem because of that.
The problem is that she has kind of a chokehold on how good any given killer perk or baseline mechanic for killers is allowed to be, because anything only even decent on other killers could be utterly beastly on her. I'm not sure what to do about it, but I'd support a full rework to try and mitigate this problem.
I don't want to see her be any weaker. I want to see her no longer being a thorn in the side of ongoing game balance.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
may I introduce you to Pyramid Head?
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
She's really powerful but I think it's justified given that she is difficult to play.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
This is what I was thinking before voting. However, I just decided to fold and say Nurse is balanced precisely because of all the mechanical skill, knowledge, and practice that's required to play Nurse at that high high level.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
yes nurse is fair and balanced bcs she is soo hard to play and takes a lot of skill to be good with her
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
Nurse is fair and balanced now, she does need very very much needed bug fixes that are being ignored as of current though. The only people who think she isn't balanced are coincidentally the people who don't know how to play against Nurse.
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No, Nurse needs a buff.
I voted she needs a buff but I don't think she actually needs any "buffs" at all. More so like Trapper, quality of life changes and bug fixes.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
Nurse, Pyramid Head, Cannibal, and Cenobite are the most balanced killers in the game imo
Definite tier differences, but the most balanced overall when used to their fullest.
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To be honest I hate the “recharge” mechanic. She felt more elegant before the change. I’d like to see it removed along with Billy’s overheat (or significantly increase the time it takes to overheat.. at the very least make the cooldown only take about a second to get going again)
Obviously blink recharge was a nerf so it can’t exactly be removed but I wish she retained her elegance because the recharge just looks, feels, and even sounds clunky.
A true nerf on current Nurse could maybe be something like.. regardless of how many charges you have, blinking through a wall at any time and the destination is out of your line of sight then all charges would be consumed. This would limit her to pretty much 1 blink in a lot of situations so you’d really have to make it count.. possibly make it so blinking through a wall/LOS block can only be done if 2 blinks are available (traversing through walls can only be executed on your first blink). If you used a blink in the open without travelling through any objects then the last remaining one cannot be used to blink through a wall for example..
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
I think she’s fine and the killer I enjoy playing against most, BUT highly unhealthy for the game.
Many perks can’t be buffed because of how oppressive the nurse could be with them.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
I'm going to say yes, those that are particularly skilled at Nurse are few and far between for me.
But I think that her steep learning curve outweighs the benefits of being good at her.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
In my opinion she is only unfair if it is a good player
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No, Nurse is the most unfair and unbalanced killer in the game. (NERF)
Nurse is the single killer in DbD that could be easily (* the most important word of the sentence *) played by an AI with absurd efficiency
This killer can't be balanced in a game where one side can mainly use stealth + pallets + windows, while this killer can basically teleport everywhere.
She still is fun to play as and vs on a regular basis ... because most of players are just not so great with her. She is utterly unbalanced as soon you add great muscle memory experience + add-ons + strong regression/detection perks.
This is just basic logic!
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She's not fair but she doesn't deserve a nerf, she requires a ton of skill and frankly Survivor at high MMR isn't fair for the rest of the Killers, so I think many things need to be changed before she gets changed.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
I don’t necessarily think Nurse is out of balance, but I think she’s really unfun to play as. That wheeze mechanic where you stare at the ground 1/3 of the match is incredibly annoying. I’d consider playing her if I could at least keep her head up while she’s stunned. Heck, if they kept her head up, and to compensate for that “buff” slowed down her teleport refresh half a second, I’d probably like her. As is she’s the only killer I actively don’t bother playing.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
Probably the most well balanced killer in the game right now.
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No, Nurse needs a buff.
Underwhelming trash, let her look in lockers before going into fatugue and you have a good killer .
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No, Nurse is the most unfair and unbalanced killer in the game. (NERF)
The fact people think she’s balanced boggles me. She’s incredibly unhealthy for the game in her current state and she’s the only killer in the game I wouldn’t mind if they completely nerfed to the ground because of how much she’s keeping this game from being balanced.
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No, Nurse needs a buff.
Certified locker moment.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
However, 3 blink Nurse is OP and should be removed again (rework that addon).
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Isn't Nurse the problem, but survs, with a normal premade, not good, normal, survs got easy win
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
For the most part she's fair, I think her plaid addon should just be a part of her kit to make her more accessible to new players (just change it so it removes the marker but gives you extra BP), but she's fine. She takes genuine skill, something uncommon in this game.
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Yes, Nurse is fair and balanced.
tell me you don't play nurse without telling me
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No, Nurse is the most unfair and unbalanced killer in the game. (NERF)
Experienced nurse = instant loss for survivors (except swf)
Inexperienced nurse = ######### match , most propably teabagging, trolling , click-click
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