Pick up animation time for killer has been increased?
I've read some posts that said that the pick up animation time for killers has been reversed back to the old one. But I haven't read it in the patch notes. Can anyone confirm if this is an intended change?
Personally I don't understand why though. I know flash light saves are hard to pull of, but something that can buy survivors so much time and can be almost critical for the outcome of the match should be hard to pull off in my opinion. And killers can't always avoid flash lights when picking up a survivor.
It's just that killers lose a lot of time when dropping a survivor in most cases, which can be detrimental for them.
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BHVR is known for forgetting important parts in the patch notes if they are nerfs to killer.
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It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck"
Good change, I like it and I'm not the only one who likes it0 -
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck"And inversely, the Survivors don't. As usual, Killers are expected to be MLG pros, but Survivors don't need skill.
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Orion said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck"And inversely, the Survivors don't. As usual, Killers are expected to be MLG pros, but Survivors don't need skill.
As killer u can still press R if u f-ed up and go for the FL guy. One slugged and one getting chased is some good momentum u can use. Also, this FL buff encourage more survivors to play the "hero" if one mate is hurt, so one survivor (or even more) less on gens. That's why I love to 4 man with FL in the lobby, it's like build in ruin, noone does gens lol.
Btw, dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it out0 -
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outIt doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Orion said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck"
And inversely, the Survivors don't. As usual, Killers are expected to be MLG pros, but Survivors don't need skill.
Killer was always much skillful to play, probably will never change. DbD has two sides, either most likely chill if u play survivor and most likely hard and stressful if u play killer. That's why I can just switch the role if I'm bored of one side without playing and entire different game. But yeah, back to ur topic.
As killer u can still press R if u f-ed up and go for the FL guy. One slugged and one getting chased is some good momentum u can use. Also, this FL buff encourage more survivors to play the "hero" if one mate is hurt, so one survivor (or even more) less on gens. That's why I love to 4 man with FL in the lobby, it's like build in ruin, noone does gens lol.
Btw, dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outFirst of all, they didn't increase the time to pickup survivors. People just thought it was increased since Legion's pickup animation is similar to the old one. Second I can pull off a FL save 90% of the time when the opportunity arises. You can learn the timing in a few games. Also the spamming R as killer when picking up a survivor is not intended. I don't think you can get banned for it but if it gets abused it will probably get fixed.
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@PolarBear said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Orion said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck"
And inversely, the Survivors don't. As usual, Killers are expected to be MLG pros, but Survivors don't need skill.
Killer was always much skillful to play, probably will never change. DbD has two sides, either most likely chill if u play survivor and most likely hard and stressful if u play killer. That's why I can just switch the role if I'm bored of one side without playing and entire different game. But yeah, back to ur topic.
As killer u can still press R if u f-ed up and go for the FL guy. One slugged and one getting chased is some good momentum u can use. Also, this FL buff encourage more survivors to play the "hero" if one mate is hurt, so one survivor (or even more) less on gens. That's why I love to 4 man with FL in the lobby, it's like build in ruin, noone does gens lol.
Btw, dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outFirst of all, they didn't increase the time to pickup survivors. People just thought it was increased since Legion's pickup animation is similar to the old one. Second I can pull off a FL save 90% of the time when the opportunity arises. You can learn the timing in a few games. Also the spamming R as killer when picking up a survivor is not intended. I don't think you can get banned for it but if it gets abused it will probably get fixed.
Well I'd hope so. Flash Light saves should require skill, like it is now.
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Yeah I read it. Sure it was in the notes.
Juggling the obsession will be so much fun now. As if you didn't waste enough time juggling before, now their friend can come back and flashlight to save time.
They slower pickup speeds, nerf noed, nerf bbq, yet decisive ######### strike still ends up untouched.3 -
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck"
Good change, I like it and I'm not the only one who likes itHave to disagree. Flash Light saves are still possible, you just have to be good at it.
Killers can't always position them so they can't get flash lighted, if they are in the open for example. Survivors can also just hide so the killer has no idea a survivor is there and might blind them. If it's reverted to the old than that would be a shame, since right now it seems fair enough given how much survivors can gain from a flash light save.3 -
@ad19970 said:
@PolarBear said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Orion said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck"
And inversely, the Survivors don't. As usual, Killers are expected to be MLG pros, but Survivors don't need skill.
Killer was always much skillful to play, probably will never change. DbD has two sides, either most likely chill if u play survivor and most likely hard and stressful if u play killer. That's why I can just switch the role if I'm bored of one side without playing and entire different game. But yeah, back to ur topic.
As killer u can still press R if u f-ed up and go for the FL guy. One slugged and one getting chased is some good momentum u can use. Also, this FL buff encourage more survivors to play the "hero" if one mate is hurt, so one survivor (or even more) less on gens. That's why I love to 4 man with FL in the lobby, it's like build in ruin, noone does gens lol.
Btw, dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outFirst of all, they didn't increase the time to pickup survivors. People just thought it was increased since Legion's pickup animation is similar to the old one. Second I can pull off a FL save 90% of the time when the opportunity arises. You can learn the timing in a few games. Also the spamming R as killer when picking up a survivor is not intended. I don't think you can get banned for it but if it gets abused it will probably get fixed.
Well I'd hope so. Flash Light saves should require skill, like it is now.
The problem isn't that it would lack skill. It's more that the killer has no chance of countering it. If there was one person with a flashlight, even if scared them off and turned your back, the pickup time was still long enough for the survivor to run around you and flashlight you. If a survivor went down in the open then you had no chance but to slug them.
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@The_Crusader said:
Yeah I read it. Sure it was in the notes.Juggling the obsession will be so much fun now. As if you didn't waste enough time juggling before, now their friend can come back and flashlight to save time.
They slower pickup speeds, nerf noed, nerf bbq, yet decisive [BAD WORD] strike still ends up untouched.
Yeah a bit of a shame. I don't mind the other nerfs, just the nerf to the pick up time. I hope it won't be in the actual patch.
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@The_Crusader said:
Yeah I read it. Sure it was in the notes.Juggling the obsession will be so much fun now. As if you didn't waste enough time juggling before, now their friend can come back and flashlight to save time.
They slower pickup speeds, nerf noed, nerf bbq, yet decisive [BAD WORD] strike still ends up untouched.
Can you tell me the line? I haven't seen it myself but I could be wrong.
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@PolarBear said:
@ad19970 said:
@PolarBear said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Orion said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck"
And inversely, the Survivors don't. As usual, Killers are expected to be MLG pros, but Survivors don't need skill.
Killer was always much skillful to play, probably will never change. DbD has two sides, either most likely chill if u play survivor and most likely hard and stressful if u play killer. That's why I can just switch the role if I'm bored of one side without playing and entire different game. But yeah, back to ur topic.
As killer u can still press R if u f-ed up and go for the FL guy. One slugged and one getting chased is some good momentum u can use. Also, this FL buff encourage more survivors to play the "hero" if one mate is hurt, so one survivor (or even more) less on gens. That's why I love to 4 man with FL in the lobby, it's like build in ruin, noone does gens lol.
Btw, dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outFirst of all, they didn't increase the time to pickup survivors. People just thought it was increased since Legion's pickup animation is similar to the old one. Second I can pull off a FL save 90% of the time when the opportunity arises. You can learn the timing in a few games. Also the spamming R as killer when picking up a survivor is not intended. I don't think you can get banned for it but if it gets abused it will probably get fixed.
Well I'd hope so. Flash Light saves should require skill, like it is now.
The problem isn't that it would lack skill. It's more that the killer has no chance of countering it. If there was one person with a flashlight, even if scared them off and turned your back, the pickup time was still long enough for the survivor to run around you and flashlight you. If a survivor went down in the open then you had no chance but to slug them.
Yeah that's true. Killers need a way to deal with that given how much a flash light save hurts them.
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Acromio said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outIt doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
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PolarBear said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Orion said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck"
And inversely, the Survivors don't. As usual, Killers are expected to be MLG pros, but Survivors don't need skill.
Killer was always much skillful to play, probably will never change. DbD has two sides, either most likely chill if u play survivor and most likely hard and stressful if u play killer. That's why I can just switch the role if I'm bored of one side without playing and entire different game. But yeah, back to ur topic.
As killer u can still press R if u f-ed up and go for the FL guy. One slugged and one getting chased is some good momentum u can use. Also, this FL buff encourage more survivors to play the "hero" if one mate is hurt, so one survivor (or even more) less on gens. That's why I love to 4 man with FL in the lobby, it's like build in ruin, noone does gens lol.
Btw, dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outFirst of all, they didn't increase the time to pickup survivors. People just thought it was increased since Legion's pickup animation is similar to the old one. Second I can pull off a FL save 90% of the time when the opportunity arises. You can learn the timing in a few games. Also the spamming R as killer when picking up a survivor is not intended. I don't think you can get banned for it but if it gets abused it will probably get fixed.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
PolarBear said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Orion said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said: It's good tho, finally the killer has to position himself/bait smart. The speeded up pickup was nearly brain dead, only possible to FL save if the is dumb enuf to see and basically says "Oh, hey nerd. I saw, but I'm picking up in front of you. Try ur luck" And inversely, the Survivors don't. As usual, Killers are expected to be MLG pros, but Survivors don't need skill. Killer was always much skillful to play, probably will never change. DbD has two sides, either most likely chill if u play survivor and most likely hard and stressful if u play killer. That's why I can just switch the role if I'm bored of one side without playing and entire different game. But yeah, back to ur topic.
As killer u can still press R if u f-ed up and go for the FL guy. One slugged and one getting chased is some good momentum u can use. Also, this FL buff encourage more survivors to play the "hero" if one mate is hurt, so one survivor (or even more) less on gens. That's why I love to 4 man with FL in the lobby, it's like build in ruin, noone does gens lol.
Btw, dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it out
First of all, they didn't increase the time to pickup survivors. People just thought it was increased since Legion's pickup animation is similar to the old one. Second I can pull off a FL save 90% of the time when the opportunity arises. You can learn the timing in a few games. Also the spamming R as killer when picking up a survivor is not intended. I don't think you can get banned for it but if it gets abused it will probably get fixed.
U can't abuse spamming R, after multiple times the slug wiggles out
It isn't intended is my point. Also no one is going to pickup the survivor 4 times in a row when they know there is someone with a flashlight just around the corner.
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@PolarBear said:
First of all, they didn't increase the time to pickup survivors. People just thought it was increased since Legion's pickup animation is similar to the old one.Oh really?
So i don't have to look at Entity Blindness every pick-up! Yay!1 -
DwightsLifeMatters said:Acromio said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outIt doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
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OrionsFury4789 said:DwightsLifeMatters said:Acromio said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outIt doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
OrionsFury4789 said:
DwightsLifeMatters said:
Acromio said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it out
It doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
Ur argument is illogical. Just because the killer can't react (drop the slug btw) and it's "exploiting" doesn't change the fact that skill is required to pull this of.
Dude I can hit flashlight saves like they’re going out of style right now, if it went back to the old way well GG killer mains I’ll see you in the fog
Doesn't matter, still illogical
There is nothing illogical about it. Why should the survivors skill matter more than the killers? Your argument doesn't take into account that the killer should have a way to counter it. If a survivor dies out in the open you aren't entitled to a flashlight save, only if the killer doesn't check his surroundings.
Also your "drop the slug" isn't a counter. It's not consistent since the survivor essentially needs to miss the save enough for you to get the R input. In most cases where you can drop the survivor in a FL save you can also just look up.1 -
DwightsLifeMatters said:OrionsFury4789 said:DwightsLifeMatters said:Acromio said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outIt doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
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@Acromio said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outIt doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
you're acting as if you can't press r during the pickup and avoid the flashlight stun 99% of the time. nice try though
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Its definitely been increased. Cant remember where it said it but you can feel it.0
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It'd be nice to throw the survivor someday.
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@PolarBear said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
OrionsFury4789 said:
DwightsLifeMatters said:
Acromio said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it out
It doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
Ur argument is illogical. Just because the killer can't react (drop the slug btw) and it's "exploiting" doesn't change the fact that skill is required to pull this of.
Dude I can hit flashlight saves like they’re going out of style right now, if it went back to the old way well GG killer mains I’ll see you in the fog
Doesn't matter, still illogical
There is nothing illogical about it. Why should the survivors skill matter more than the killers? Your argument doesn't take into account that the killer should have a way to counter it. If a survivor dies out in the open you aren't entitled to a flashlight save, only if the killer doesn't check his surroundings.
Also your "drop the slug" isn't a counter. It's not consistent since the survivor essentially needs to miss the save enough for you to get the R input. In most cases where you can drop the survivor in a FL save you can also just look up.not true. vsing a killer who presses r to avoid flashlight saves you need to rely on 2 things to pull off the flashlight save. 1 is you literally have to time the stun during the exact moment the stun window opens, if you don't do that then it's hope to christ your imperfect timed blind registers before the killers r key registers. it's a pretty near guaranteed way to avoid a flashlight save.
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@DukeJukem said:
@Acromio said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outIt doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
you're acting as if you can't press r during the pickup and avoid the flashlight stun 99% of the time. nice try though
doesn't work most of the time.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@DukeJukem said:
@Acromio said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outIt doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
you're acting as if you can't press r during the pickup and avoid the flashlight stun 99% of the time. nice try though
doesn't work most of the time.
then your keyboards input delay is insanely high compared to others lol. it works every time i do it.
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@DukeJukem said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@DukeJukem said:
@Acromio said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it outIt doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
you're acting as if you can't press r during the pickup and avoid the flashlight stun 99% of the time. nice try though
doesn't work most of the time.
then your keyboards input delay is insanely high compared to others lol. it works every time i do it.
I got your buckass standard 16bucks keyboard like most gamers. There's no confirmation that this even works in the first place or if it's the survivor basically ######### up the perfect timing.
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@DukeJukem said:
@PolarBear said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
OrionsFury4789 said:
DwightsLifeMatters said:
Acromio said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
dont act like timing the FL requires no skill, it's not like everyone can pull it out
It doesn't though. The Killer can't react. It doesn't take skill, you're just exploiting a mandatory animation.
Ur argument is illogical. Just because the killer can't react (drop the slug btw) and it's "exploiting" doesn't change the fact that skill is required to pull this of.
Dude I can hit flashlight saves like they’re going out of style right now, if it went back to the old way well GG killer mains I’ll see you in the fog
Doesn't matter, still illogical
There is nothing illogical about it. Why should the survivors skill matter more than the killers? Your argument doesn't take into account that the killer should have a way to counter it. If a survivor dies out in the open you aren't entitled to a flashlight save, only if the killer doesn't check his surroundings.
Also your "drop the slug" isn't a counter. It's not consistent since the survivor essentially needs to miss the save enough for you to get the R input. In most cases where you can drop the survivor in a FL save you can also just look up.not true. vsing a killer who presses r to avoid flashlight saves you need to rely on 2 things to pull off the flashlight save. 1 is you literally have to time the stun during the exact moment the stun window opens, if you don't do that then it's hope to christ your imperfect timed blind registers before the killers r key registers. it's a pretty near guaranteed way to avoid a flashlight save.
It still isn't consistent enough to be a counter. There is always a window where you can blind the killer. Even after the killer has looked up there is a chance they will drop the survivor.
Also I'd like to note that I don't use the R exploit since it isn't intended and is a really scummy way to counter a flashlight save.0