Perma tier 3 Myers
Hi all, sorry am new here. Just wanted people's thoughts on the above. I'm a stinky surv main :P but do play the occasional killer match and Myers is actually one of my faves to play. The thing is I've been messed by perma tier 3 as survivor so many times and just don't see from survivor perspective how it is in any way balanced, especially when joined with the increase evil add on. Wouldn't it be fairer to have some way of trying to get rid of it? Maybe I should try playing it to find out (because I've never used it as an add-on), but it's like run corrupt and it's ggs. Not calling for any arguments, just curious to see if others think similarly. Thanks :)
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Don't worry, at higher level of gameplay it's actually quite mediocre addon, not bad but nothing amazing either. For one, it takes a while to charge, all that time you're not pressuring survivors and a good looper can deny you LOS for a while.
And once you actually do get it, the main thing that changes is that you become plague without ability of cleasing (which people don't do vs her anyway).
Ofc vs normal solo teams, you'll win with anything be it this or perkless Legion. But when faced with players who know how to loop well and don't waste time like solos do, you'll see that this addon is nothing special.
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I don't think its a problem. Survivors need to realize its michael and figure out what he is running. If he gets to tier 2 I always assume he has the infinite add on with tombstone. Sadly lots of people have bad game sense and don't care what he is running and just run around like crazy.
If you play more stealthy and don't feed the beast he is very very easy to shut down.
That is just my thoughts tho. I love playing against Michael since you need to figure out what you are facing.
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It’s why I dislike Myers his boring playstyle and they all run Fragrant Tuft of Hair and Judith Myers Memorial
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just gen rush and once he hit perma tier 3 just predrop pallets and hold w till your team finished gens or he chase someone else, sure I think is kinda sucks he able to get perma tier 3 but he just a m1 killer with a lil longer lunge, you said he run corrupt, just hide or run straight to the main gens, also maps is a big rng factor, also don’t get stalked and if your teammates feed him just think like he about to hit tier 3 any moment and make sure a get a head start to a safe pallet or building
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Why did I read the title as Pantless tier 3 Myers......
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I ran a perma3 Mikey an entire trial once. It was thrilling. Dropped every pallet, ended up depipping due to no objective pts, no team points. Max boldness tho.
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Thanks all :) I think this last match was bad luck he must've spawned right next to us and he was literally next to me in about 5 seconds and I was in a dead zone. I was like is this game okay lol? So he got tier 2 in like 20 seconds and we were all zoned by the corrupt gens so it was a bit pants!
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I play Myers a lot. My go-to is Hair bow with a stalk add-on. if no hair bow it's hair brush. I have only used unlimited EW 3 times and it takes a long time to activate but so fun to do the comeback with it. Tombstone I have only used once and got like 15k ######### that
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I.. how? It takes awhile for it to build up, how do you end matches "too quickly"
Even then I still don't think that's too quickly, the same can be said about Plague. Same exact stats and no one is cleansing. Yet, it's still kinda difficult.
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What? Yeah, I still don't get stuff like that, when I go against survivors in high ranks they book it, I shot gun stalk a survivor and they will get their gens done fast anyway.
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One of Myers outdated Add Ons, will be removed/nerfed hopefully. And I dont really get why people say it takes much stalk, most of the time it is used with the J.Myers Memorial and the Fragrant Tuft of Hair alone does not need that much stalk.
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I think I only ran the infinite Myers a couple of times. I prefer the M&A with a Dead Rabbit build.
Like others have stated, at higher games you won’t really see it much and it’s easier to work around. Starting off it’s difficult to manage. It will help develop your skills as a survivor though.
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I mean tbh unlike Plague, Myers vaults faster and has a longer lunge than usual, also doesnt need to charge his attack.
Could also add that with the right setup you can make your Terror Radius gigantic and make it hard for the survivors to know where you are
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Permanent T3 Myers is actually still one of the weakest killers in the game. It takes forever to reach T3 and his counterplay is him still being an m1 killer.
The problem is that people like to facecamp with it.
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Yeah, that sounds more like you got killed by RNG. Which is actually a big problem in DbD. The game doesn't even care what it gave you on the map, it just punishes or rewards you based on the outcome alone.
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i think his only op addons are the insta kill ones, theres no reason he should be able to wipe someone from the trial like that.
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how often do you see that addon? once every 100 matches? maybe more? the addon is fine, he is very loopeable aswell.
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Always hate when people make this comparison... Myers gets more than just 1 shotting. He has faster vault speed than normal during his T2, and that gets kicked up even more along with a super lunge during T3. Ignoring that by saying "he's just like Plague" is just being dishonest. Not making any arguments about balance or anything, just saying Myers T3 is a whole lot more than just 1 shotting.
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Myer's being able to swap between his addons for different gameplay is actually pretty nice. I'll do different builds depending on the addons for drastically different styles. Makes me feel like I'm able to actually use more of his addons rather than blowing through more bloodwebs trying to get my hands on afew of the "good" addons like I do with so many other killers.
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It’s a shame they didn’t setup other killers in this fashion. Legion would’ve been a good candidate with the multiple people aspect.
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For sure. Myers is kind of a rarity in that I'd use MOST of his addons. The movement speed while stalking addons is pretty useless since it only affects your speed when your not staring at anyone, Vanity mirror could use a buff by removing at least the movement speed part and unless your paring it with the other UR, his Tomestone is basically useless... but the others are pretty good.
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To be completely honest, I feel as though Myers is outdated in almost every way possible. I don't see why I should get punished with an insta down because my teammates just let him stalk them freely.
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It's not even them letting him stalk them freely. Paired with J Myers Memorial he can get their extremely quickly.
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If Myers gets buffed then it should definitely be reworked. He might need an add-on pass in general tbh.
From what it seems, the add-on isn't really OP or anything, even with J. Myers. Pairing it up with Judith's Tombstone is pretty much a meme.
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It's usually a pretty bad add-on and a good team will have 4 gens done at least before they can finish getting into it. Also, the key to beating a perma tier 3 myers is just basically throw pallets early and loop him roughly like normal. He can instant down you but is still a 115 killer in chase, though his lunge is slightly longer. Spreading out is also big since he has no movement abilities and so he cannot snowball.
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It is literally his only power, unless you count a very small terror radius. Bubba can do the same thing without needing to do anything prior. Oni has an arguably better transformation state that can instant down you even if he never hit you for blood. There are also several other killers with instant down options in their powers. I don't know why people have this opinion that Myers instant down is so unfair when it is arguably one of the weakest versions of this mechanic in the game.
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If survivors are any good at all then using those addons literally loses you the game from the moment you load in. 3 gens will pop before you even get tier 3 and the survivors still have an entire maps worth of recourses, you have no hooks, and as long as the survivors dont suck you will get 1-2 kills and lose the match.
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"He got tier 2 in 20 seconds"
Yeah the that's about the norm. Myers gets to tier 2 pretty quickly unless they really mess up. Its the tier 3 that takes a bit. So about 10-20 seconds after finding a survivor is pretty common for T2. You have to play around his tier 3. Although if you're the one he pops the 99% on there's nothing you can really do, you're going down. Assuming they do it right and wait till they're on top of you to pop it.
All he has to do is look at you after all. Unless RNG really likes the survivor and gives them a chain of LOS blockers, he's stalking them.
In term of infinite T3, in chase your best bet is to safe drop the pallets and hope your team is on gens. Although since everyone has to play extra safe because of said T3, that's not always the case. If he's coming to your area try your best to stealth and avoid him finding you.
He gets chase buffs in T3 so keep in mind the extended lunge and faster vault if you do need to run him. Myers is pretty unfun and this add-on in particular is one of the worse offenders. If he gets it early enough its going to be a very rough game. Not unbeatable, but pretty strong.
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He is just a M1 killer, no matter what add ons he uses. Good survivors will get 4 gens done before he gets enough stalk anyways.
His purple tombstone should get changed, that one is actually unfair
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Basically, you get screwed over by Solo Queue teammates a lot more.
I know that add-on is incredibly mediocre and #########, but ######### hell man, the amount of times I got screwed over by it because I was playing solo queue is ridiculous.
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Not sure why people make out like it takes forever to get enough stalk for perma tier 3, it really doesn’t take that long if you pair it with the right add on unless you get really unlucky. Plus you can just run a build like Corrupt/Ruin/Undying/Tinkerer and slow down the start of the match pretty significantly, then push survivors off the middle gens and get easy stalk and regression. You’ll easily hit tier 3 before they can do more than one or two gens.
With that build, it’s only really a weak add on if the survivors spawn split up on a large map and get your totems really fast. Which is unlikely. Even then, Corrupt can salvage things.
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Since you are new and a survivor main, I’m going to assume you don’t understand how difficult it is to pull a permanent T3 status.
It is so hard that by the time you actually get it, most gens will be done. Because you have spent that whole time stalking, so it becomes more of an endgame playstyle.
This is why Michael is fair and why he is also rewarding to play as him because you depend a lot on his ability to stalk + survivors efficiency when it comes to denying you stalk progress and doing gens.
This is why Michael is fun to go against also. Because he can’t immediately “one shot” like other killers where they have their power almost immediately if not already at the beginning of the match.
He is like a ticking bomb.
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It's not too bad to deal with. His perma tier 3 can be denied for most of the game and he's still very easy to loop beyond that. Just takes practice. When you have good teammates, all the gens will be done before he even gets tier 3
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Myers has a lot of strong addons, balanced by the fact that he sucks because he's pretty much just an m1 killer with a smaller TR or m1 killer but with instadown depending on tier.
Perma tier 3 is going to take a while to get, not incredibly long, but good survivors will have a myers on the ropes by the time he gets his tier 3 even with increased speed.
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Gonna be 100% honest with you.
I forgot about the extra vault speed. That's a good factor, but the reason why I forgot about it is because I absolutely refuse to deal with a killer who vaults, it's too threatening so I leave.
I haven't forgotten about the extra lunge though
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Myers himself is quite weak and easily loopable, he also has literally 0 map pressure outside of hooks and any deadzones he creates. If you play smart and rush gens out, his perma t3 won't really matter that much. Plus myers is basically by default perma t3 if they're smart, since the only time they'll pop it is when they're guranteed downs.
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Hello
I dont think Infinite Myers is op.
Just think about it... to reach perma Tier 3, it will usually cost at least 2, maybe even 3 generators. The benefit for those 2-3 gens is that he becomes a slow billy with slightly faster faulting speed and a better lunge for the rest of the game. Not worth it in my opinion.
(when i started playing survivor, i also thought he is overpowered, but he really isnt. Learn the timing against him and you can loop him like every other M1 killer without any real power)
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Not OP if your team mates know what they are doing (not healing 4 mins after he got t3 as an example).
Myers doesn't need an addon pass, unlike what most people think. All he needs is Tobstone Piece (truly overpowered and unfair) and Vanity Mirror (m1 killer that can activate a 16m wall hack, after having to spend precious time to get it) changed and he's alright addon-wise.
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New to the forums, definitely not new to the game lol. I'm guessing it was just bad luck this match and he got fed super quickly. Just don't know of any other permanent exposed mechanic in game, the rest either time out or can be destroyed via hex.
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Vanity mirror is garbage. He gives up being able to ever use T3 while also moving slower the whole match. That 16 meters is handy for mindgaming a loop, but the slower speed tends to mean less hits where you'd normally get them if you were your normal speed.
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Yeah, exactly what I said lol.
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Devour hope
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Yes and you can do gens before he gets his tier 3. He is still just a normal m1 killer in tier 3 anyway he can just instadown
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